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Prince Charles Communiques to Pariament- The Black Spider Letters

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  • http://theweek.com/articles/555709/prin ... nservatism
    No candle in the wind for Charles

    Prince Charles' letters reveal a quirky, old-fashioned brand of conservatism
    Michael Brendan Dougherty

    For a decade the anti-monarchist British newspaper The Guardian fought for the release of letters Prince Charles wrote to government officials, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair. The prince was lobbying the government, and so these letters collectively received a sinister name: the "black spider" letters.

    Was Charles pinning parliamentarians down on certain votes? Was the palace engaged in a quiet, pen-and-ink coup against democracy? Would a future King Charles become a meddling, overbearing tyrant?

    If only!

    A small batch of 27 letters was finally released after much fighting between Buckingham Palace and the government. Prince Charles was indeed revealed — but as what?

    Brendan O'Neill, one of the sharpest writers on the scene, believes that — ironically, deliciously, hilariously — Prince Charles was exposed as a Guardianista, a man who shares the same preening environmentalism, anti-corporatism, and diet fad-ism of the fashionable left.

    It isn't surprising that an aloof royal, a future divine king, should valorize the countryside, elevate the natural over the manmade, and be sniffy about fat plebs. It's somewhat more surprising that the supposedly liberal Guardian shares pretty much all those views. [spiked!]


    But in focusing on their shared qualities, it would be easy to miss the truth. Far from being a full-throated Guardianista, Prince Charles is his own kind of conservative: an ecological preservationist, an arch-traditionalist, and a tiller and keeper of the soil, rather than a devotee of capitalistic creative destruction.

    In his letters, the prince lobbies specifically for the toothfish, a species of cod he worried was being overfished to the potential decline of the species (and a classic English dish). He criticizes the "education experts" who he feared were turning children into "better robots," rather than fully capable and enquiring human beings. He worries that British armed forces were being given inadequate equipment for the tough job they were doing in the war on terror.

    Prince Charles' conservatism is characterized by "trusteeship," rather than the more modern concept of ownership. The latter assumes that the possessor of a property is entitled to extract all its market value, even if it destroys the use of that property and its goods for all posterity. Charles, ever a royal, allies himself to posterity's interests.

    The prince's overwhelming concern for conservation comes forward in his letters to the secretary of state for Northern Ireland: "As usual I repeated myself — yet again — as regards the potential value to be realized from the regeneration and re-use of redundant historic landmark sites." In the same letter he promotes the settlement of Poundbury, a community that was being built on lands belonging to Duchy of Cornwall, according to the traditionalist principles of town-planning and architecture he holds dear.

    On this subject, the prince can be scathing. In the 1980s, he compared the result of modernist architects unfavorably to the Battle of Britain. "You have to give this much to the Luftwaffe: When it knocked down our buildings, it didn't replace them with anything more offensive than rubble," he writes. Did you notice that for the prince, these are "our" buildings? Lovely.

    Conservatives are most likely to object to Charles' environmentalism. He very early turned his own farmland toward organic production. Charles is also a devoted believer in climate change. Commenting on the prince's conservatism, Rod Dreher wrote in 2012:


    In the black spider letters, Prince Charles is found criticizing supermarkets, which were rapidly displacing older markets, grocers, and butchers, and whose effect on farmers has mostly been one of squeezing the profit out of the business. Given his other concerns, it is likely Charles worries about collapsing biodiversity and flattened food-ways under the standardization of large market actors. Charles worries about the entire market ecology of food production.

    At the same time, a kind of anti-leftist ecological concern peeks through. Charles wanted farmers to be able to cull the population of badgers, which had the protection of legislation created by animal-rights activists.

    The monarchy's sympathizers might say that it is precisely because Charles' position is partly insulated from corporate interests and moral fads that he is able to take a longer view of issues related to England's countryside, its architectural patrimony, its historical sites, and the environment.

    Far from revealing an overweening royal authority or a disconnected left-wing scion, Charles' letters show a gentle, far-seeing, if unfashionable monarch. In a sense, Charles quietly exercises the highest role a monarch can play in the modern administrative state. He is an insistent voice for tradition's value to posterity, and an advocate for the men (and fish) that the market, or the bureaucratic state, would overlook and destroy.



    On a moral and spiritual level, Charles believes that civilization isn't sustainable unless humanity finds a way to live in balance with nature. For him, climate change is the ultimate judgment on a civilization that has rejected limits and fetishized economic growth and material prosperity over spiritual values. [The American Conservative]
    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand

  • Black spider letters https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... epartments

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand

  • Prior to reading this I didn't know a lot about Charles. I still don't know a lot about Charles.

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand

  • England has the best fish and chips. Served with peas and thick cut fries.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

    @gftchris said:

    Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

    like a lot of people his age I guess.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

    @gftchris said:

    Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

    Did the letters explain why he prefered an old hag ,his wife now, over Princess Diana, a beautiful women?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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    @gftchris said:

    Prior to this coming out, we (in England) all thought of him as part hippy part old fashioned conservative. Turns out that was pretty accurate, and that he is who he shows himself to be.

    Did the letters explain why he prefered an old hag ,his wife now, over Princess Diana, a beautiful women?

    @browns149 said:

    Did the letters explain why he prefered an old hag ,his wife now, over Princess Diana, a beautiful women?

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @browns149 said:

    Did the letters explain why he prefered an old hag ,his wife now, over Princess Diana, a beautiful women?

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    She was a British 8.

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @browns149 said:

    Did the letters explain why he prefered an old hag ,his wife now, over Princess Diana, a beautiful women?

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    Charles cheated on her with an old hag. And yes Diana was way better looking then the current wife

    @logicisforsquares said:

    She was a British 8.

    And the current wife is a -20

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Diana was a whore.

    And I'd hardly call Diana a beautiful woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-508191/Dianas-mother-called-whore-sleeping-Muslim-men.html

    She was a British 8.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    She was a British 8.

    That's like am American 4. Kate Middleton is a British ten. That's a six here.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

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  • Yeah she's got huge boobs but she's a butterface.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Elizabeth hurley is the hottest British chick I can think of

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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  • Kate Beckensale is pretty hot

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Elizabeth Taylor was born in England.

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  • Ok Kate Beckinsale is pretty hot

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

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