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  • Giving up a future Rookie of the year for a one year rental player is not good planning.

  • Here's the thing as long as lebron and kyrie are here they will attract sone one to fill his role if he wants to leave. Lemarcus Aldridge maybe

  • Here's the thing as long as lebron and kyrie are here they will attract sone one to fill his role if he wants to leave. Lemarcus Aldridge maybe

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Here's the thing as long as lebron and kyrie are here they will attract sone one to fill his role if he wants to leave. Lemarcus Aldridge maybe

    It is wishful thinking but the Cavs won't land Aldridge and with the way Irving is playing they really don't need him. With Lebron and Irving you need a Joakim Noah/Tyson Chandler type and a JJ Reddick/Kyle Korver type.

  • Before the season I'd say Love would be a Cav for the duration but after his season I see him walking. He just doesn't fit well in the equation.

    @baconhound said:

    Before the season I'd say Love would be a Cav for the duration but after his season I see him walking. He just doesn't fit well in the equation.

    i disagree. i think until the point the swedish fishdick pulled his arm out of the socket in the celtic series he was all in.

    as someone else has said, once you smell that chance at the playoffs and further....why would you move on to a team where you once again have to be the workhorse?

    if he was still available the cavs would have swept the bulls and they'd be looking at 3 weeks rest and the hawks.

    they win.

  • Giving up a future Rookie of the year for a one year rental player is not good planning.

    @furious-styles said:

    Giving up a future Rookie of the year for a one year rental player is not good planning.

    We don't know that yet- hell, even Le Bron doesn't.

  • @baconhound said:

    Before the season I'd say Love would be a Cav for the duration but after his season I see him walking. He just doesn't fit well in the equation.

    i disagree. i think until the point the swedish fishdick pulled his arm out of the socket in the celtic series he was all in.

    as someone else has said, once you smell that chance at the playoffs and further....why would you move on to a team where you once again have to be the workhorse?

    if he was still available the cavs would have swept the bulls and they'd be looking at 3 weeks rest and the hawks.

    they win.

    @miktoxic said:

    i disagree. i think until the point the swedish fishdick pulled his arm out of the socket in the celtic series he was all in.

    as someone else has said, once you smell that chance at the playoffs and further....why would you move on to a team where you once again have to be the workhorse?

    if he was still available the cavs would have swept the bulls and they'd be looking at 3 weeks rest and the hawks.

    they win.

    There will be other suitors with playoff capability and a star. For the next few years it is going to be the Lebron and Kyrie show.

  • Giving up a future Rookie of the year for a one year rental player is not good planning.

    @furious-styles said:

    Giving up a future Rookie of the year for a one year rental player is not good planning.

    I'm starting to think that way.

    @baconhound said:

    There will be other suitors with playoff capability and a star. For the next few years it is going to be the Lebron and Kyrie show.

    True- and other teams possibly having the cap room to offer him a Max Contract- which he isn't getting in Cleveland. What concerns me more is Love's glaring absence on the bench the last few games. Showed up once- so what gives? Andy and Kyrie are fixtures there, even when they're not playing. Makes you wonder.

    I retract the above statement- courtesy of Cleveland.com

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  • From what the radio guys keep saying, Kevin Love should take a 1 year deal, and then go for a max contract after next year. The salary cap is going to go way up and the max deals will be a lot more money after next year. I guess a new tv deal kicks in after next year

  • From what the radio guys keep saying, Kevin Love should take a 1 year deal, and then go for a max contract after next year. The salary cap is going to go way up and the max deals will be a lot more money after next year. I guess a new tv deal kicks in after next year

    @browns149 said:

    From what the radio guys keep saying, Kevin Love should take a 1 year deal, and then go for a max contract after next year. The salary cap is going to go way up and the max deals will be a lot more money after next year. I guess a new tv deal kicks in after next year

    Radio guys are correct concerning the cap but a 1 year deal could be signed in Dallas, Memphis, Portland, etc.

  • @browns149 said:

    From what the radio guys keep saying, Kevin Love should take a 1 year deal, and then go for a max contract after next year. The salary cap is going to go way up and the max deals will be a lot more money after next year. I guess a new tv deal kicks in after next year

    Radio guys are correct concerning the cap but a 1 year deal could be signed in Dallas, Memphis, Portland, etc.

    @baconhound said:

    Radio guys are correct concerning the cap but a 1 year deal could be signed in Dallas, Memphis, Portland, etc.

    None of those teams have LeBron

  • @baconhound said:

    Radio guys are correct concerning the cap but a 1 year deal could be signed in Dallas, Memphis, Portland, etc.

    None of those teams have LeBron

    @browns149 said:

    None of those teams have LeBron

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

  • @browns149 said:

    None of those teams have LeBron

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    @baconhound said:

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    Michael Jordan had the ball all the time. None of the point guards Jordan had were as good as Kyrie

    Jordan also had Pippen and Horace Grant, and then he had Pippen and Rodman.

    If Love was a "team" player, none of the "shots" would matter. When Jordan was there, it was "ALL" Jordan

  • @baconhound said:

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    Michael Jordan had the ball all the time. None of the point guards Jordan had were as good as Kyrie

    Jordan also had Pippen and Horace Grant, and then he had Pippen and Rodman.

    If Love was a "team" player, none of the "shots" would matter. When Jordan was there, it was "ALL" Jordan

    @browns149 said:

    Michael Jordan had the ball all the time. None of the point guards Jordan had were as good as Kyrie

    Jordan also had Pippen and Horace Grant, and then he had Pippen and Rodman.

    If Love was a "team" player, none of the "shots" would matter. When Jordan was there, it was "ALL" Jordan

    Pippen wasn't a #1 option and he knew it, parlayed that into a top 50 nod though. Grant and Rodman were role players. I think you are forgetting what the Bulls were, namely the Michael Jeffrey Jordan show. Despite all the Pippen love, Jordan didn't play with another superstar like Kobe/Shaq or Lebron/Wade.

  • Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.

  • One other thing: In his championship run Jordan never faced the quality of opponent as LeBron has had to face in the San Antonio Spurs. Some decent opponents, like the Jazz, but those teams were nothing like the Spurs.

  • @browns149 said:

    None of those teams have LeBron

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    @baconhound said:

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.

  • @browns149 said:

    None of those teams have LeBron

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    @baconhound said:

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    Hmmm..... If Love isn't a stretch 4- then what does he think he is? Should the Cavs manage to win a Championship without him- he had better accept his role with the team, or if you think the grass is greener elsewhere- adios. Want to take your talents back to LA, and play with Mr Ego Kobe? Even with the #2 pick- that franchise is still a train wreck.

    As was said earlier elsewhere in this thread, should Love decide to leave- it would majorly suck to have given up Wiggins for a one year rent-a-player.

    The good thing is with our De Facto GM, Le Bron- now that he's made a commitment to Cleveland- he can pretty much recruit anyone he wants to play for the Cavs. LOL, bye-bye Love, Durant anyone?

  • If the Cavs somehow got Durant, LeBron, Kyrie, and Durant would rank right up there with Magic, Worthy, Kareem, and Bird, Parrish, McHale, as one of the best "BIG" 3 ever

  • Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Jordan won nothing before pippen or after him. That damns THAT argument each and every time.

    Same is said for Pippen, didn't win anything in the baseball years and couldn't take Portland or Houston to the promise land.

  • @baconhound said:

    That's a good thing and none have Kyrie. I am one of the few that would rank Lebron in the top 5 all time in the NBA but one of the drawbacks of having him is he has to have the ball all the time. Kyrie sacrificed a bit with James but Love, like a lot of good to very good players, wants the offense to go through him at times and that isn't going to happen in Cleveland. He made it pretty clear that he wasn't a "stretch 4" and his shots per game were the lowest since his sophomore season. It's hard for a former #1 to be the #3 and other teams will give him either the opportunity to be the man or be the second option.

    Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Lebron isn't the same as he was when he played here before. He is much more of a team player so you're wrong in your drawback comment.

    Lebron has always been a team player but he plays best when he runs the show, that is still true.