Who is Allen Patrick?
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A penalty on the play, but it gives you an idea of what the kid can bring.
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Yeah that was as beautiful spin move going down the sidelines.
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I remember when we brought him in...I thought it was a solid move. He has the size and speed plus came from a legit school (once Peterson finally got out of the way for him). He is the perfect type of guy to try and coach up. We'll see I guess...
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After reading this post & looking at that short video, I also have to wonder why we haven't seen this kid. Do we have a "diamond in the rough" getting splinters & growing cobwebs? I agree that before spending draft picks on backs that we need to see what this young man can do.
Mike
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John McClane said:
I been hearing people wanting to burn a draft pick on a running back like Greene and I am wonderwing why. We don't know what we have in Harrison yet and now we have a unknown guy like Patrick who,on paper, looks very intriging and we haven't even seen him play yet. I would either resign Lewis or bring in a vet but we have to get these guys some game action to actually know what were dealing with. I would NOT waste a pick on a running back considering all the holes on defense we need to fill.Harrison has durability issues and Lewis is gonna have issues with all the wear and tear he's taken so they gotta do something, I could easily see both of these guys missing a number of games next year. I don't no if i take a RB in the second but i dont see why not in the 4th
nmills said:
Harrison has durability issues and Lewis is gonna have issues with all the wear and tear he's taken so they gotta do something, I could easily see both of these guys missing a number of games next year. I don't no if i take a RB in the second but i dont see why not in the 4thWhat makes you think Harrison has durability issues? He hasn't played enough to indicate what his issues may be. Sort of like guys saying Sproles was too small and would have durability issues.
How many games did either miss last year?
If you are sure that these guys and this position will be a problem, why would you wait until the 4th round and take a gamble on a unknown? There's a reason players are still available in the 4th round.
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I think RB is a position that is tough to evaluate in regards to actual game day output. Those guys need to get out there in a real game situation to see what they can do. Sadly that is such a risk that not many guys get a chance and stay buried on a depth chart or practice squad.
Back to Allen Patrick.
He was a seventh round pick from Baltimore last year. Here are his Oklahoma stats...
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG
2005 25 136 5.4 28 2 4 8 2.0
2006 170 766 4.5 65 4 0 0 0.0
2007 173 1009 5.8 69 8 10 56 5.6
He shows that he improved year to year once he was given a true starting spot (AP left for the draft). "Diamond in the rough" is a hard thing to find. I'm not sure I'd suggest that but instead point out his potential and possible upside.
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I think RB is a position that is tough to evaluate in regards to actual game day output. Those guys need to get out there in a real game situation to see what they can do. Sadly that is such a risk that not many guys get a chance and stay buried on a depth chart or practice squad.
Back to Allen Patrick.
He was a seventh round pick from Baltimore last year. Here are his Oklahoma stats...
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG
2005 25 136 5.4 28 2 4 8 2.0
2006 170 766 4.5 65 4 0 0 0.0
2007 173 1009 5.8 69 8 10 56 5.6
He shows that he improved year to year once he was given a true starting spot (AP left for the draft). "Diamond in the rough" is a hard thing to find. I'm not sure I'd suggest that but instead point out his potential and possible upside.
I think RB is a position that is tough to evaluate in regards to actual game day output. Those guys need to get out there in a real game situation to see what they can do. Sadly that is such a risk that not many guys get a chance and stay buried on a depth chart or practice squad.
He was a seventh round pick from Baltimore last year.
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG
2005 25 136 5.4 28 2 4 8 2.0
2006 170 766 4.5 65 4 0 0 0.0
2007 173 1009 5.8 69 8 10 56 5.6
He shows that he improved year to year once he was given a true starting spot. "diamond in the rough" is a hard thing to find. I'm not sure I'd suggest that but instead point out his potential and possible upside.
who are you talking about??
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I think RB is a position that is tough to evaluate in regards to actual game day output. Those guys need to get out there in a real game situation to see what they can do. Sadly that is such a risk that not many guys get a chance and stay buried on a depth chart or practice squad.
He was a seventh round pick from Baltimore last year.
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG
2005 25 136 5.4 28 2 4 8 2.0
2006 170 766 4.5 65 4 0 0 0.0
2007 173 1009 5.8 69 8 10 56 5.6
He shows that he improved year to year once he was given a true starting spot. "diamond in the rough" is a hard thing to find. I'm not sure I'd suggest that but instead point out his potential and possible upside.
who are you talking about??
AdaM said:
who are you talking about??The title of the topic is "who is Allen Patrick?"
So I'll give you a hint...it isn't Lee Suggs.
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AdaM said:
who are you talking about??The title of the topic is "who is Allen Patrick?"
So I'll give you a hint...it isn't Lee Suggs.
The title of the topic is "who is Allen Patrick?"
So I'll give you a hint...it isn't Lee Suggs.
The way you worded your post it looked like you were posting NFL stats from Baltimore.
Hope we get to see his stuff in preseason.
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nmills said:
Harrison has durability issues and Lewis is gonna have issues with all the wear and tear he's taken so they gotta do something, I could easily see both of these guys missing a number of games next year. I don't no if i take a RB in the second but i dont see why not in the 4thWhat makes you think Harrison has durability issues? He hasn't played enough to indicate what his issues may be. Sort of like guys saying Sproles was too small and would have durability issues.
How many games did either miss last year?
If you are sure that these guys and this position will be a problem, why would you wait until the 4th round and take a gamble on a unknown? There's a reason players are still available in the 4th round.
What makes you think Harrison has durability issues? He hasn't played enough to indicate what his issues may be. Sort of like guys saying Sproles was too small and would have durability issues.
How many games did either miss last year?
If you are sure that these guys and this position will be a problem, why would you wait until the 4th round and take a gamble on a unknown? There's a reason players are still available in the 4th round.
I think Harrison only missed one game last year, but he was injured for like the last 4-5 games thats why he only got 1 or 2 carries in each of those games, considering he had around 35 carries last year and was injured toward the end of the season would be my answer to why I think he as durability issues. As for why I wouldnt draft one until the 4th is because I dont beleive we need to draft a starting running back this year we just need a devlopemental or depth guy. We have to many holes to fill, honestly I'd rather not draft a RB anywhere in the draft, I'd get Gary Russel, Chris Taylor or Desean Foster in free agency
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The title of the topic is "who is Allen Patrick?"
So I'll give you a hint...it isn't Lee Suggs.
The way you worded your post it looked like you were posting NFL stats from Baltimore.
Hope we get to see his stuff in preseason.
AdaM said:
The way you worded your post it looked like you were posting NFL stats from Baltimore.Hope we get to see his stuff in preseason.
I see what you mean. I'll make a quick adjustment.
Thanks!
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AdaM said:
The way you worded your post it looked like you were posting NFL stats from Baltimore.Hope we get to see his stuff in preseason.
I see what you mean. I'll make a quick adjustment.
Thanks!
I see what you mean. I'll make a quick adjustment.
Thanks!
One thing I noticed is he's never fumbled. Thats always a good sign.
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After reading more about his guy and watching more video on him he looks really impressive. Here is a highlight video of his I found. Looks pretty impressive.
Sorry couldn't find the video on Youtube to embed it.
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After reading more about his guy and watching more video on him he looks really impressive. Here is a highlight video of his I found. Looks pretty impressive.
Sorry couldn't find the video on Youtube to embed it.
After reading more about his guy and watching more video on him he looks really impressive. Here is a highlight video of his I found. Looks pretty impressive.
Sorry couldn't find the video on Youtube to embed it.
Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
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After reading more about his guy and watching more video on him he looks really impressive. Here is a highlight video of his I found. Looks pretty impressive.
Sorry couldn't find the video on Youtube to embed it.
Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
I think it was because he was behind Peterson initially, then he split carries his last 2 years. He was also a safety from a community college who transfered into Oklahoma and was converted to RB. Maybe he's viewed as somewhat of a project because of this. Or maybe we have another Cribbs.
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Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
I think it was because he was behind Peterson initially, then he split carries his last 2 years. He was also a safety from a community college who transfered into Oklahoma and was converted to RB. Maybe he's viewed as somewhat of a project because of this. Or maybe we have another Cribbs.
AdaM said:
I think it was because he was behind Peterson initially, then he split carries his last 2 years. He was also a safety from a community college who transfered into Oklahoma and was converted to RB. Maybe he's viewed as somewhat of a project because of this. Or maybe we have another Cribbs.After watching the video I posted I am wondering the same thing, is it possible he has been over looked this whole time and we have another hidden gem. I hope they give him a chance with Harrison, would love to see what this kid has
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After reading more about his guy and watching more video on him he looks really impressive. Here is a highlight video of his I found. Looks pretty impressive.
Sorry couldn't find the video on Youtube to embed it.
Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
Great video. I love the way he runs. He doesn't seem to change hands much but has a monster grip on the football. Like Adam said...he just doesn't fumble. Looks to have good vision, a second gear, cuts well, and flat out runs hard.
Funny that we're talking about an late round pick that looks great on tape and has good size. Something had to set teams off for him to be available in round 7. It isn't impossible for a late rounder or undrafted guy to become a starter or simply get some good touches...but it isn't extremely common either.
That could be a good thing. We may have our next feature back or we have another Willam Green. Either way, to have that kinda potential out of a guy drafted in the 7th is really nothing but a plus for us. I he makes it GREAT if not no biggy. At least he's not expected to put up 1st round numbers which could also benefit him too, not as much pressure to succeed right away. Either way I want to see this guy on the field SOON
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AdaM said:
I think it was because he was behind Peterson initially, then he split carries his last 2 years. He was also a safety from a community college who transfered into Oklahoma and was converted to RB. Maybe he's viewed as somewhat of a project because of this. Or maybe we have another Cribbs.After watching the video I posted I am wondering the same thing, is it possible he has been over looked this whole time and we have another hidden gem. I hope they give him a chance with Harrison, would love to see what this kid has
After watching the video I posted I am wondering the same thing, is it possible he has been over looked this whole time and we have another hidden gem. I hope they give him a chance with Harrison, would love to see what this kid has
With the way Romeo ran things, I wouldn't be surprised to see some young guy or two appear "out of the blue" so to speak.
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