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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @nickers said:

    I personally wish we could trade Manziel.. I see him as nothing but a major distraction to this team. And that is weather or not he succeeds or not as a QB.. I think its a distraction this team does not need.. I personally hope he falls flat on his head and we dump him,. I want a pocket passer.. That's where the game is won.... Think about it.. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Donovan 'choke' McNabb have netted 0 championships.

    And why can't Manziel be a pocket passer?

    Because of his college scheme? Because Shanahan was a shitty offensive coordinator last year?

    It's unlikely that he becomes one, but there are plenty of examples of mobile quarterbacks who are efficient pocket passers and have/had solid careers- Wilson, Rodgers, Stabler, Young, Moom and Tarkenton.

    Just because he can run doesn't mean he should run. That's the biggest problem "mobile" QB's face.

    Also - here's a decent article about he success of rushing quarterbacks in the NFL.

    http://www.burkmont.com/2015/01/name-mobile-quarterback-who-won_19.html?m=1

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And why can't Manziel be a pocket passer?

    Because of his college scheme? Because Shanahan was a shitty offensive coordinator last year?

    It's unlikely that he becomes one, but there are plenty of examples of mobile quarterbacks who are efficient pocket passers and have/had solid careers- Wilson, Rodgers, Stabler, Young, Moom and Tarkenton.

    Just because he can run doesn't mean he should run. That's the biggest problem "mobile" QB's face.

    How long does it take for something learned to become one's "nature"?

    If you ask JM to not run, that will be the 2nd change he's had to make as a pro... 3rd if you count actually learning an offense.

    It's a lot to ask.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And why can't Manziel be a pocket passer?

    Because of his college scheme? Because Shanahan was a shitty offensive coordinator last year?

    It's unlikely that he becomes one, but there are plenty of examples of mobile quarterbacks who are efficient pocket passers and have/had solid careers- Wilson, Rodgers, Stabler, Young, Moom and Tarkenton.

    Just because he can run doesn't mean he should run. That's the biggest problem "mobile" QB's face.

    How long does it take for something learned to become one's "nature"?

    If you ask JM to not run, that will be the 2nd change he's had to make as a pro... 3rd if you count actually learning an offense.

    It's a lot to ask.

    @tour2ma said:

    How long does it take for something learned to become one's "nature"?

    If you ask JM to not run, that will be the 2nd change he's had to make as a pro... 3rd if you count actually learning an offense.

    It's a lot to ask.

    Well, studies claim it takes 21 days to make something a habit...

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • more like 21 years.

    hiccup.

  • nickersN nickers

    I personally wish we could trade Manziel.. I see him as nothing but a major distraction to this team. And that is weather or not he succeeds or not as a QB.. I think its a distraction this team does not need.. I personally hope he falls flat on his head and we dump him,. I want a pocket passer.. That's where the game is won.... Think about it.. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Donovan 'choke' McNabb have netted 0 championships.

    @nickers said:

    I personally wish we could trade Manziel.. I see him as nothing but a major distraction to this team. And that is weather or not he succeeds or not as a QB.. I think its a distraction this team does not need.. I personally hope he falls flat on his head and we dump him,. I want a pocket passer.. That's where the game is won.... Think about it.. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Donovan 'choke' McNabb have netted 0 championships.

    Donovan McNabb went to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl, 6 time Pro Bowler. If a Browns QB put that type of resume up before I die I'd name my first born son after him.

    miktoxicM nickersN 2 Replies
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @nickers said:

    I personally wish we could trade Manziel.. I see him as nothing but a major distraction to this team. And that is weather or not he succeeds or not as a QB.. I think its a distraction this team does not need.. I personally hope he falls flat on his head and we dump him,. I want a pocket passer.. That's where the game is won.... Think about it.. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Donovan 'choke' McNabb have netted 0 championships.

    Donovan McNabb went to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl, 6 time Pro Bowler. If a Browns QB put that type of resume up before I die I'd name my first born son after him.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Donovan McNabb went to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl, 6 time Pro Bowler. If a Browns QB put that type of resume up before I die I'd name my first born son after him.

    really? i'd rather have a son that can speak literate english and not sound like one of the cosby kids.

    IbleedbrownI W 2 Replies
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    If he is, were fucked.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    If he is, were fucked.

    Because with Johnny starting the team be in such a better position to succeed?!?!

    If Manziel can't beat out McCown then McCown is the best choice for this team.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @jrb12711 said:

    Donovan McNabb went to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl, 6 time Pro Bowler. If a Browns QB put that type of resume up before I die I'd name my first born son after him.

    really? i'd rather have a son that can speak literate english and not sound like one of the cosby kids.

    @miktoxic said:

    really? i'd rather have a son that can speak literate english and not sound like one of the cosby kids.

    Buuuuud

  • Meanwhile Gip will sit out OTAS for more money. Dude praises giving thanks for God all the time on Twitter but certainly isn't thankful for the money he's making

    Not to take this the religious route but that dude is all in Gods dick then screws the team for money. I get its a business but shits just so backwards with ppl sometimes

  • Wow, is this camera angle or is he really that small?post-28058-0-58488100-1432696974_thumb.jpg

  • Wow, is this camera angle or is he really that small? Click on it to make bigger.post-28058-0-58488100-1432696974_thumb.jpg

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT 1 Reply
  • http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2015/05/26/all-eyes-on-johnny-as-manziel-practices-with-browns/27959473/
  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Wow, is this camera angle or is he really that small? Click on it to make bigger.post-28058-0-58488100-1432696974_thumb.jpg

    @kvoethe said:

    Wow, is this camera angle or is he really that small? Click on it to make bigger. image.jpg

    Four inch height difference plus a 25 degree knee bend difference...seems about right to me. McCown is a lanky fuck.

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  • Growing up, dedication, work ethic, desire to be the best they can be...

    and all that talent - looks like they will be ready to roll 2015

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_justin_gilber_7.html

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/05/johnny_manziel_getting_help_fr.html

  • Let's hope so.

  • All my moneys on Gilbert....expecting(hoping for) great things from him.......

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    All my moneys on Gilbert....expecting(hoping for) great things from him.......

    @mudfly said:

    All my moneys on Gilbert....expecting(hoping for) great things from him.......

    Mud,

    I can't explain it, but I'm not sure about Gilbert & I'm thinking Manziel will do ok.

    Either way, time will tell. I'm hoping they BOTH do well.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @mudfly said:

    All my moneys on Gilbert....expecting(hoping for) great things from him.......

    Mud,

    I can't explain it, but I'm not sure about Gilbert & I'm thinking Manziel will do ok.

    Either way, time will tell. I'm hoping they BOTH do well.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Either way, time will tell. I'm hoping they BOTH do well.

    Mike

    Im with you there....100%...

  • I'd live with 50%

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    I'd live with 50%

    @mld-woody said:

    I'd live with 50%

    Pathetic.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @jrb12711 said:

    Donovan McNabb went to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl, 6 time Pro Bowler. If a Browns QB put that type of resume up before I die I'd name my first born son after him.

    really? i'd rather have a son that can speak literate english and not sound like one of the cosby kids.

    @miktoxic said:

    really? i'd rather have a son that can speak literate english and not sound like one of the cosby kids.

    Jameis Toxic. ..

    It do have a nice ring to it...

    😮

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