Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Well if Johnny Rehab doesn't have the tools to play QB in the NFL, he will get a pink slip before the next draft.
Yep. This article talks of the same things I was pointing to in yesterdays post.....
Well if Johnny Rehab doesn't have the tools to play QB in the NFL, he will get a pink slip before the next draft.
And, since we only carried 2 QB's last year....Im starting to wonder what happens if he doesn't earn the Back up spot. Dont see Pettine going through a whole season with a QB he doesnt have trust in,,,,and NO WAY we can hide him or Lewis on the practice squad.....which maybe means he could be gone this year if he doesnt step up and play well......
I think Johnny been banging a lot of the Browns Board members wives and girlfriends. Thats why so much hate and hope that he fails. Can't understand why a fan would want there first round pick to fail.
I don't see constant negative articles on anyone else except Manziel. If he fails, he fails, but its still May for petes sake.
I dont see constant negative articles or anyone hoping he fails......I just see people reporting the truth and what they're observing at camp......maybe Johnny just gets all the negative attention because he does stuff to deserve it?????....and isn't playing well?......while the others show up, do their jobs and generally just play better.....
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Yep. This article talks of the same things I was pointing to in yesterdays post.....
Well if Johnny Rehab doesn't have the tools to play QB in the NFL, he will get a pink slip before the next draft.
And, since we only carried 2 QB's last year....Im starting to wonder what happens if he doesn't earn the Back up spot. Dont see Pettine going through a whole season with a QB he doesnt have trust in,,,,and NO WAY we can hide him or Lewis on the practice squad.....which maybe means he could be gone this year if he doesnt step up and play well......
I think Johnny been banging a lot of the Browns Board members wives and girlfriends. Thats why so much hate and hope that he fails. Can't understand why a fan would want there first round pick to fail.
I don't see constant negative articles on anyone else except Manziel. If he fails, he fails, but its still May for petes sake.
I dont see constant negative articles or anyone hoping he fails......I just see people reporting the truth and what they're observing at camp......maybe Johnny just gets all the negative attention because he does stuff to deserve it?????....and isn't playing well?......while the others show up, do their jobs and generally just play better.....
Yep. This article talks of the same things I was pointing to in yesterdays post.....
And, since we only carried 2 QB's last year....Im starting to wonder what happens if he doesn't earn the Back up spot. Dont see Pettine going through a whole season with a QB he doesnt have trust in,,,,and NO WAY we can hide him or Lewis on the practice squad.....which maybe means he could be gone this year if he doesnt step up and play well......
I dont see constant negative articles or anyone hoping he fails......I just see people reporting the truth and what they're observing at camp......maybe Johnny just gets all the negative attention because he does stuff to deserve it?????....and isn't playing well?......while the others show up, do their jobs and generally just play better.....
Disagree.
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Way too early to write off Manziel yet. I have no doubt this year he will know the playbook very well with the work ethic he has been showing. I think he can be a good NFL quarterback with the right mental attitude. I agree with what Roger Staubach said about him being capable of being a Russell Wilson type quarterback. "'If he really truly gets his life back on track, his talent is Russell Wilson-type talent,' Staubach told USA TODAY Sports.
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Way too early to write off Manziel yet. I have no doubt this year he will know the playbook very well with the work ethic he has been showing. I think he can be a good NFL quarterback with the right mental attitude. I agree with what Roger Staubach said about him being capable of being a Russell Wilson type quarterback. "'If he really truly gets his life back on track, his talent is Russell Wilson-type talent,' Staubach told USA TODAY Sports.
Way too early to write off Manziel yet. I have no doubt this year he will know the playbook very well with the work ethic he has been showing. I think he can be a good NFL quarterback with the right mental attitude. I agree with what Roger Staubach said about him being capable of being a Russell Wilson type quarterback. "'If he really truly gets his life back on track, his talent is Russell Wilson-type talent,' Staubach told USA TODAY Sports.
i didn't read any reports last year of manziel showing up to camp drunk, so how is it that he didn't learn the playbook last year? too complicated?
if someone is soooooooooooo talented a hangover or 4 beers into a binge won't make that person any less talented, hell sometimes it actually loosens people up.
i just don't see this kid as an NFL QB. sorry, not trying to rain on anyone's parade but either i'm blind or a lot of people on here are.
if this kid 'all of a sudden' flips a switch and becomes russell wilson i'll go shit in a hat. from what I saw of him on the field last to what i see of russell wilson, manziel would need a brain transplant, not just some 6 week rehab.
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Well....he finally made a top five list....just not the right one.....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/most-hated-nfl-players/ss-BBkm25v?ocid=U147DHP
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When somebody I respect like Roger Staubach feels Manziel is capable of being a Wilson type qb with the right work ethic and getting his life turned around I don't rule it out. Someone posted once about Joe Namath being a party qb and doing well but I think the NFL has changed since Namath's days and a qb has to be sold out and have a great work ethic. That work ethic is what has helped Wilson succeed and I see that quality in all the great qb's in the NFL. Manziel has yet to prove himself but getting a good work ethic is a good place for him to start. Now we will see if he has the ability.
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first in and last out..........it sure hasn't been reported about manziel, in any season.
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The difference between Wilson and Manziel was that Russell was an accomplished pocket passer in two different pro style offenses. Johnny, not so much.
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if manziel breaks through and proves me wrong.......i consider that a bonus at this point and time.
i just don't have the patience anymore for these kids like manziel and mccoy and whoever else you want to throw into the mix, to 'develop' or give him some time bullshit.
either you have it or you don't. that should be pretty easy to see in anyone's second year.
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first in and last out..........it sure hasn't been reported about manziel, in any season.
Browns OC says Manziel's work ethic 'fantastic'first in and last out..........it sure hasn't been reported about manziel, in any season.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/browns-oc-says-manziels-work-ethic-fantastic/32919560
New Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo also recently heaped loads of praise on Manziel, using the words “great,” “fantastic” and “awesome” to describe his work ethic after spending 10 weeks in rehab.
“All I know is this: From the moment he stepped in this building,” DeFilippo said, “he’s been nothing but a consummate professional. He’s spent every hour that he’s been allowed to spend in this building.”
BEREA: Browns strong safety Donte Whitner has been monitoring the main parking lot at team headquarters in recent weeks, and he’s noticed a specific car is usually there earlier and later than the others.
It belongs to quarterback Johnny Manziel.
“He’s taken the steps that it takes to be a good quarterback,” Whitner said Tuesday after the first practice of organized team activities.
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The difference between Wilson and Manziel was that Russell was an accomplished pocket passer in two different pro style offenses. Johnny, not so much.
The difference between Wilson and Manziel was that Russell was an accomplished pocket passer in two different pro style offenses. Johnny, not so much.
Another difference is that Darell Bevell gave Wilson and Flynn the same playbook, and Wilson executed better than Flynn and legitimately won his position. Manziel didn't learn the playbook and didn't earn his position.
Then, when he did get the start, Shanahan tried to change the playbook, which is fucking stupid but unsurprising because Shanahan is a fucking stupid guy.
Point is, stop comparing him to Brees, Wilson, Tarkenton, whoever and expecting him to follow in their footsteps. He'll either win the job or he won't. Either way, he's not going to do it like anyone else.
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Browns OC says Manziel's work ethic 'fantastic'first in and last out..........it sure hasn't been reported about manziel, in any season.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/browns-oc-says-manziels-work-ethic-fantastic/32919560
New Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo also recently heaped loads of praise on Manziel, using the words “great,” “fantastic” and “awesome” to describe his work ethic after spending 10 weeks in rehab.
“All I know is this: From the moment he stepped in this building,” DeFilippo said, “he’s been nothing but a consummate professional. He’s spent every hour that he’s been allowed to spend in this building.”
BEREA: Browns strong safety Donte Whitner has been monitoring the main parking lot at team headquarters in recent weeks, and he’s noticed a specific car is usually there earlier and later than the others.
It belongs to quarterback Johnny Manziel.
“He’s taken the steps that it takes to be a good quarterback,” Whitner said Tuesday after the first practice of organized team activities.
Browns OC says Manziel's work ethic 'fantastic'http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/browns-oc-says-manziels-work-ethic-fantastic/32919560
New Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo also recently heaped loads of praise on Manziel, using the words “great,” “fantastic” and “awesome” to describe his work ethic after spending 10 weeks in rehab.
“All I know is this: From the moment he stepped in this building,” DeFilippo said, “he’s been nothing but a consummate professional. He’s spent every hour that he’s been allowed to spend in this building.”
BEREA: Browns strong safety Donte Whitner has been monitoring the main parking lot at team headquarters in recent weeks, and he’s noticed a specific car is usually there earlier and later than the others.
It belongs to quarterback Johnny Manziel.
“He’s taken the steps that it takes to be a good quarterback,” Whitner said Tuesday after the first practice of organized team activities.
i saw that when it was written 3 weeks ago. to me just another PR response given by a coach to reap praise on a player.
let's see how it translates to 'on the field'.
'go johnny go'.
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For me it's about his (Johnny's) decision making. Even when he was making highlight reel scrambles, there were smarter and easier throws available. Mechanics can be improved, footwork can improve, understanding defenses can improve. What your eyes see and how fast you turn that into a precise and safe play rarely improves from college to pros.
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Well yeah people are going to be more negative about the guy. The team invested a first into a guy who chose to get smashed instead of learning the playbook. People are going to scrutinize the hell out of him. Deservedly so.
Plus, he's a quarterback. We will bitch and bitch about the QBs until we get the right one. Then we still bitch a little bit about him.
They are lightning rods.
If McClown goes out and stinks it up, we will be unforgiving to him and the Farmer who rode him into town.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Plus, he's a quarterback. We will bitch and bitch about the QBs until we get the right one. Then we still bitch a little bit about him.
They are lightning rods.
If McClown goes out and stinks it up, we will be unforgiving to him and the Farmer who rode him into town.
Zombo
So JF brought in by Street Bum and A Farmer (Tex or Jed) rides in Josh as A Mentor or Bridge OH MY.. This is a Caddy Shack "Cinderella Story" now isn't it
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it will be an interesting season. I am optimistic because I believe In Pettine and Farmer and what they are trying to build in Cleveland. I don't know if Manziel can develop into an NFL qb or not but I give him credit thus far for his work ethic. I would agree with the assessment below:
NFL teams do not win by signing and paying millions of dollars to players to be mentors.
So it’s wise to consider that Josh McCown is not the Cleveland Browns quarterback because he’s a mentor to Johnny Manziel. He’s the quarterback because the Browns believe that with a strong defense and good running game, it can win games by not asking McCown to do too much.
The Browns believe they are a better team this season with defensive improvements, with run-game improvements and with McCown. Many disagree. That will play out. But at this point, the team is not counting on Manziel to start. If he plays well enough to seize the job, that will be a bonus. If he plays well once he seizes the job, that’s a bonus with a slice of banana on top.
But way back in February, coach Mike Pettine said this of McCown: “We would not have brought him here if we didn’t feel that [he could win].” And this: “We’re not just looking to bring in a guy to be a leader and a mentor.”
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it will be an interesting season. I am optimistic because I believe In Pettine and Farmer and what they are trying to build in Cleveland. I don't know if Manziel can develop into an NFL qb or not but I give him credit thus far for his work ethic. I would agree with the assessment below:
NFL teams do not win by signing and paying millions of dollars to players to be mentors.
So it’s wise to consider that Josh McCown is not the Cleveland Browns quarterback because he’s a mentor to Johnny Manziel. He’s the quarterback because the Browns believe that with a strong defense and good running game, it can win games by not asking McCown to do too much.
The Browns believe they are a better team this season with defensive improvements, with run-game improvements and with McCown. Many disagree. That will play out. But at this point, the team is not counting on Manziel to start. If he plays well enough to seize the job, that will be a bonus. If he plays well once he seizes the job, that’s a bonus with a slice of banana on top.
But way back in February, coach Mike Pettine said this of McCown: “We would not have brought him here if we didn’t feel that [he could win].” And this: “We’re not just looking to bring in a guy to be a leader and a mentor.”
it will be an interesting season. I am optimistic because I believe In Pettine and Farmer and what they are trying to build in Cleveland. I don't know if Manziel can develop into an NFL qb or not but I give him credit thus far for his work ethic. I would agree with the assessment below:
NFL teams do not win by signing and paying millions of dollars to players to be mentors.
So it’s wise to consider that Josh McCown is not the Cleveland Browns quarterback because he’s a mentor to Johnny Manziel. He’s the quarterback because the Browns believe that with a strong defense and good running game, it can win games by not asking McCown to do too much.
The Browns believe they are a better team this season with defensive improvements, with run-game improvements and with McCown. Many disagree. That will play out. But at this point, the team is not counting on Manziel to start. If he plays well enough to seize the job, that will be a bonus. If he plays well once he seizes the job, that’s a bonus with a slice of banana on top.
But way back in February, coach Mike Pettine said this of McCown: “We would not have brought him here if we didn’t feel that [he could win].” And this: “We’re not just looking to bring in a guy to be a leader and a mentor.”
I agree with this whole statement....think McCown is who they've planned on playing all along...
Id say the real QB battle is actually gonna end up being for back-up....Manziel vs Lewis vs Shaw......
Last year we only carried 2 QB's, so assuming we do the same this year, there is only one spot available....
Shaw can "maybe" make the practice squad again, though I have to believe there's a very realistic chance someone would grab him.....Manziel would never clear waivers.....and Lewis is 5th year, so isnt eligible....
I know the Browns want to win now......So the #2 QB better be ready to go game 1.......cause I dont see us keeping 3......
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Browns OC says Manziel's work ethic 'fantastic'
http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/browns-oc-says-manziels-work-ethic-fantastic/32919560
New Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo also recently heaped loads of praise on Manziel, using the words “great,” “fantastic” and “awesome” to describe his work ethic after spending 10 weeks in rehab.
“All I know is this: From the moment he stepped in this building,” DeFilippo said, “he’s been nothing but a consummate professional. He’s spent every hour that he’s been allowed to spend in this building.”
BEREA: Browns strong safety Donte Whitner has been monitoring the main parking lot at team headquarters in recent weeks, and he’s noticed a specific car is usually there earlier and later than the others.
It belongs to quarterback Johnny Manziel.
“He’s taken the steps that it takes to be a good quarterback,” Whitner said Tuesday after the first practice of organized team activities.
i saw that when it was written 3 weeks ago. to me just another PR response given by a coach to reap praise on a player.
let's see how it translates to 'on the field'.
'go johnny go'.
i saw that when it was written 3 weeks ago. to me just another PR response given by a coach to reap praise on a player.
let's see how it translates to 'on the field'.
'go johnny go'.
You asked for "reports."
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You asked for "reports."
yeah can we get something recent?
sorta like the espn splash about winston being the first in and out of camp reported last week? something a team expects from a rookie first round QB........
oh wait! manziel isn't a rookie anymore. got it.
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So they have to say it every couple of weeks?
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