You betcha it's true. Obamao is a rogue, undermining America president
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Perhaps they should do it every other day of the week as well?
I strive to brother.
Really we should, it is not just an on Sunday or Easter and Christmas faith it should be practiced daily. Humanists believe we are basically born good while the bible says otherwise, that we are born with a sin nature (that is selfish). I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
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I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
My wife did day care for many years. You see that selfish nature in small children. it is a part of the human condition and not something that needs to get indoctrinated or taught.
As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
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Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
My wife did day care for many years. You see that selfish nature in small children. it is a part of the human condition and not something that needs to get indoctrinated or taught.
As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
My wife did day care for many years. You see that selfish nature in small children. it is a part of the human condition and not something that needs to get indoctrinated or taught.
Not all children. Not even close. There's two things going on here, first there's some epigenetics at play for sure....but then those behaviors are also reinforced early by "some" parents. Or maybe not reinforced, but certainly left alone. "Aww that's so cute, he'll grow out of it though right?"....nope.
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Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
My wife did day care for many years. You see that selfish nature in small children. it is a part of the human condition and not something that needs to get indoctrinated or taught.
As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
You intrinsically don't understand our economic structure and what it's really based on. You think that people who made more than you worked harder and were smarter, it's not true. Most of the hardest working people in this country are often the poorest. They just don't have the skillset that has been "chosen" arbitrarily. The financial movers have been chosen because they are the ones that expedite the bubble the most. And those that run our system make the most because they are able to ride the bubble in ways you couldn't even dream of. It of course is meant to suck the blood and sweat upwards with minimal "trickle down". That's a nice fabrication meant to keep people mostly unaware's of just how their labor is being usurped.
Most people don't really have an issue with others who make more because they may be stronger, faster smarter etc, etc. But we're well past those quaint notions of societal differences. And anybody who's been in the labor force for any real amt of time intrinsically knows this.
For an example of how far "our" brand of capitalism has distorted what you would call a 'true" market...look at our useless athletes and how much they make. Doctors, scientists...hell even the people who make our food without which we couldn't live...how much do they make compared to athletes? Of course that's our fault because we've come to demand what athletes do so heavily and regard them so highly that we've completely lost sight of what's important in this life. It's not the concept of capitalism I have an issue with, nor do I have an issue with socialism...because both have their places. There are areas where collective bahaviors benefit the whole the most and other areas where individual behaviors benefit the whole more. There's a time and place for market competition, but capitalists think everything benefits from being commoditized. And that's exactly why we're all going to be born with diabetes in 50 years (well not me I'm going back the mantle when I leave here). And if you think it's not a big deal that diabetes is slowly being etched into our DNA than you're further lost than I thought.
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There are clearly things that benefit from competition, but things that are deemed essential services should be maintained centrally by the government. By that I mean, basically, if your landlord is obliged to provide it - electricity, gas, water etc - then the government should be in charge. It's something that should be done as beneficially as possible for the people.
On the other hand, non-life-essential services such as post and travel *could* be tendered. I'd rather they not be as, although it's not compulsory to send letters or take public transport, most people will, at least in big cities. Though, America is probably an exception being such a big place that you can drive around most cities easily enough I guess.
Then, really non-essential services like hairdressing, dry cleaning, fuck it, whatever. There's an actual tangible difference between services provided, whereas whichever electricity company you go with, your end product is just electricity, on the same cables, regardless.
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There are clearly things that benefit from competition, but things that are deemed essential services should be maintained centrally by the government. By that I mean, basically, if your landlord is obliged to provide it - electricity, gas, water etc - then the government should be in charge. It's something that should be done as beneficially as possible for the people.
On the other hand, non-life-essential services such as post and travel *could* be tendered. I'd rather they not be as, although it's not compulsory to send letters or take public transport, most people will, at least in big cities. Though, America is probably an exception being such a big place that you can drive around most cities easily enough I guess.
Then, really non-essential services like hairdressing, dry cleaning, fuck it, whatever. There's an actual tangible difference between services provided, whereas whichever electricity company you go with, your end product is just electricity, on the same cables, regardless.
There are clearly things that benefit from competition, but things that are deemed essential services should be maintained centrally by the government. By that I mean, basically, if your landlord is obliged to provide it - electricity, gas, water etc - then the government should be in charge. It's something that should be done as beneficially as possible for the people.
On the other hand, non-life-essential services such as post and travel *could* be tendered. I'd rather they not be as, although it's not compulsory to send letters or take public transport, most people will, at least in big cities. Though, America is probably an exception being such a big place that you can drive around most cities easily enough I guess.
Then, really non-essential services like hairdressing, dry cleaning, fuck it, whatever. There's an actual tangible difference between services provided, whereas whichever electricity company you go with, your end product is just electricity, on the same cables, regardless.
Because as we all know politicians and their friends who become political appointees are usually the best at making things run efficiently and profitably. you just like it cuz that's the only way you've ever lived it.
By your logic everything we need should be controlled by the government, that means everything. And when the government controls the means of production, well let's just say that it's been tried and hasn't worked all that well as yet.
WSS
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what happened to all of our gas bills when that shit got deregulated? Prices went way up that's what. I never had any issue with my gas either. And why is that? Cause there's no competition, just like with cable. You can't have unlimited gas lines running into your house, so whoever owns those lines is essentially your gas provider even though they make a show of saying you have multiple choices. You don't. If you choose the company that didn't own the lines you still paid the transport fee so it was a wash. Complete circus show.
Food is the main thing that has been ruined by commoditization. Farmers competing with each other on the open mkt has made them do things to their land that wasn't never meant. Now we have so much land in this country that is literally shit. Without chemical fertilizers nothing would grow out of it because of years of improper farming practices. Not saying the govt should have run farms but farm land should have been classified a national treasure and resource and there were things you simply could not do to it even though you owned the land. And every few years you had to let some or all of your land just sit and chill. But how were farmers gonna do that when most of the time they were living on a shoestring budget? Just mismanagement all around. The people who made our food should have had the place in our society that Dr's do.
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Say, Cleve, that thing about the farmers screwing up their land - you learned that from me.
No need to thank me or anything. But with roundup, 24D weed everything killer but residual, etc,
artificial fertilizers are required to get anything to grow.
The soil ends up sterile, and the damage done to surround trees, brush, wild flowers etc, is
alarming. We used to have long fence lines of blackberries and rasberries on the neighbor's land...
now they are all gone.
Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
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Say, Cleve, that thing about the farmers screwing up their land - you learned that from me.
No need to thank me or anything. But with roundup, 24D weed everything killer but residual, etc,
artificial fertilizers are required to get anything to grow.
The soil ends up sterile, and the damage done to surround trees, brush, wild flowers etc, is
alarming. We used to have long fence lines of blackberries and rasberries on the neighbor's land...
now they are all gone.
Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
Say, Cleve, that thing about the farmers screwing up their land - you learned that from me.
No need to thank me or anything. But with roundup, 24D weed everything killer but residual, etc,
artificial fertilizers are required to get anything to grow.
The soil ends up sterile, and the damage done to surround trees, brush, wild flowers etc, is
alarming. We used to have long fence lines of blackberries and rasberries on the neighbor's land...
now they are all gone.
Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
1) I appreciate your knowledge on this subject, honestly I do. It's like your one, and only one, redeeming quality.
2) However, please understand I have worked on organic farms here locally and in Indiana for years. I've known about this long before I came to this board. I also read a really good book about this subject years ago, I think it's just called "Soil". In it the author made a pretty compelling argument that what precipitated the downfall of every empire was their mismanagement of farmland. Some pretty damning evidence of this in Europe still from the Roman empire. He tracked the progression of all the great civies from the Egyptians to the Greeks to the Romans etc, etc and how they all began to decline as they had to expand outward due to their loss of soil from overfarming to feed their populations that had been allowed to expand too fast.
The correlations to our current "empire" are obvious. I'm encouraged that at least some people get it, even people that I facepalm to almost daily such as yourself. Can I cloward piven? Sorry had to troll that. lol
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Say, Cleve, that thing about the farmers screwing up their land - you learned that from me.
No need to thank me or anything. But with roundup, 24D weed everything killer but residual, etc,
artificial fertilizers are required to get anything to grow.
The soil ends up sterile, and the damage done to surround trees, brush, wild flowers etc, is
alarming. We used to have long fence lines of blackberries and rasberries on the neighbor's land...
now they are all gone.
Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
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Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
If we were allowed to grow Hemp it would bring that land back in a couple years instead of decades or centuries even. You till Hemp back in every year and apparently the land comes roaring back in a vastly reduced time frame.
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Careless, stupidass overspray by one of the big doesn't give a sheet farmers did it.
If we were allowed to grow Hemp it would bring that land back in a couple years instead of decades or centuries even. You till Hemp back in every year and apparently the land comes roaring back in a vastly reduced time frame.
If we were allowed to grow Hemp it would bring that land back in a couple years instead of decades or centuries even. You till Hemp back in every year and apparently the land comes roaring back in a vastly reduced time frame.
And if nobody wants it, just gather it up and burn it after?
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Liberal democrat George McGovern wrote an article about his failed hotel and restaurant business before he passed away. McGovern learned the hard way that excessive government regulations destroy businesses. He never knew because he never owned a business and then he found out. That is the problem with most legislators who have never owned and operated a business.
George McGovern, Small Business OwnerAfter his final campaign, the 1984 Democratic presidential primaries, McGovern bought the Stratford Inn in 1988. The inn not only had 150 rooms, but also a restaurant and facilities for hosting large conferences. It was his first business experience after decades in politics, academia, and the military.
The experience was an eye-opening one. His purchase was followed by renovations and then opening for business. But the business went bankrupt within two years, and closed by 1991.
He wrote about how, in his time in the world of actually running a small business, he got to experience firsthand the impact of all the things politicians do.He described the negative impact of government regulations and rule-making on business. Government regulations, he said, looked different when he was the business owner than when he was the legislator.“The concept that most often eludes legislators,” he wrote, “is: ‘Can we make consumers pay the higher prices for the increased operating costs that accompany public regulations and government reporting requirements with reams of red tape.’”As business owner, he suddenly worried over the ever-increasing cost of health insurance, excessive and outlandish litigation, and scapegoating. He came face-to-face with the reality in the private sector that “consumers do have a choice when faced with higher prices. . . Every such decision eventually results in job losses for someone.”After his experience in the private sector, McGovern was talking about “profit margins, labor intensive vs. capital intensive businesses, and local market economics” in ways that he never did in Washington. And that’s no surprise — he was unable to talk about those things before because he had never dealt with them firsthand.“In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business,” McGovern concluded. “I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender.”http://www.newsmax.com/FranTarkenton/McGovern-Small-Business-Owner/2012/10/22/id/460970/
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If we were allowed to grow Hemp it would bring that land back in a couple years instead of decades or centuries even. You till Hemp back in every year and apparently the land comes roaring back in a vastly reduced time frame.
And if nobody wants it, just gather it up and burn it after?
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Liberal democrat George McGovern wrote an article about his failed hotel and restaurant business before he passed away. McGovern learned the hard way that excessive government regulations destroy businesses. He never knew because he never owned a business and then he found out. That is the problem with most legislators who have never owned and operated a business.
George McGovern, Small Business OwnerAfter his final campaign, the 1984 Democratic presidential primaries, McGovern bought the Stratford Inn in 1988. The inn not only had 150 rooms, but also a restaurant and facilities for hosting large conferences. It was his first business experience after decades in politics, academia, and the military.
The experience was an eye-opening one. His purchase was followed by renovations and then opening for business. But the business went bankrupt within two years, and closed by 1991.
He wrote about how, in his time in the world of actually running a small business, he got to experience firsthand the impact of all the things politicians do.He described the negative impact of government regulations and rule-making on business. Government regulations, he said, looked different when he was the business owner than when he was the legislator.“The concept that most often eludes legislators,” he wrote, “is: ‘Can we make consumers pay the higher prices for the increased operating costs that accompany public regulations and government reporting requirements with reams of red tape.’”As business owner, he suddenly worried over the ever-increasing cost of health insurance, excessive and outlandish litigation, and scapegoating. He came face-to-face with the reality in the private sector that “consumers do have a choice when faced with higher prices. . . Every such decision eventually results in job losses for someone.”After his experience in the private sector, McGovern was talking about “profit margins, labor intensive vs. capital intensive businesses, and local market economics” in ways that he never did in Washington. And that’s no surprise — he was unable to talk about those things before because he had never dealt with them firsthand.“In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business,” McGovern concluded. “I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender.”http://www.newsmax.com/FranTarkenton/McGovern-Small-Business-Owner/2012/10/22/id/460970/
Liberal democrat George McGovern wrote an article about his failed hotel and restaurant business before he passed away. McGovern learned the hard way that excessive government regulations destroy businesses. He never knew because he never owned a business and then he found out. That is the problem with most legislators who have never owned and operated a business.
George McGovern, Small Business OwnerAfter his final campaign, the 1984 Democratic presidential primaries, McGovern bought the Stratford Inn in 1988. The inn not only had 150 rooms, but also a restaurant and facilities for hosting large conferences. It was his first business experience after decades in politics, academia, and the military.
The experience was an eye-opening one. His purchase was followed by renovations and then opening for business. But the business went bankrupt within two years, and closed by 1991.
He wrote about how, in his time in the world of actually running a small business, he got to experience firsthand the impact of all the things politicians do.He described the negative impact of government regulations and rule-making on business. Government regulations, he said, looked different when he was the business owner than when he was the legislator.“The concept that most often eludes legislators,” he wrote, “is: ‘Can we make consumers pay the higher prices for the increased operating costs that accompany public regulations and government reporting requirements with reams of red tape.’”As business owner, he suddenly worried over the ever-increasing cost of health insurance, excessive and outlandish litigation, and scapegoating. He came face-to-face with the reality in the private sector that “consumers do have a choice when faced with higher prices. . . Every such decision eventually results in job losses for someone.”After his experience in the private sector, McGovern was talking about “profit margins, labor intensive vs. capital intensive businesses, and local market economics” in ways that he never did in Washington. And that’s no surprise — he was unable to talk about those things before because he had never dealt with them firsthand.“In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business,” McGovern concluded. “I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender.”http://www.newsmax.com/FranTarkenton/McGovern-Small-Business-Owner/2012/10/22/id/460970/
^^Exhibit A as to why we have govt regulations "regulating" business's like restaurants. And even with them this shit still happens. I suspect McGovern couldn't run a tight ship.
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^^Exhibit A as to why we have govt regulations "regulating" business's like restaurants. And even with them this shit still happens. I suspect McGovern couldn't run a tight ship.
McGovern was a better class liberal than the Harry Reid's and Nancy Pelosi's of today. He was intellectually honest and did not follow the party line on everything. There are regulations and then there are excessive regulations. McGovern was talking about excessive government regulations:
One of his biggest challenges had been dealing with myriad federal and state regulations: I wish during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. Senator and a more understanding presidential contender. . . . We intuitively know that to create job opportunities, we need job entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off these opportunities. Toward the end of his life, McGovern was also a key ally in the fight to defeat so-called card-check legislation. It became the No. 1 priority of union bosses after Obama’s election in 2008, because it would provide a way to bypass the requirement for secret-ballot elections to unionize a company. Instead, under card-check rules, a company’s employees would be declared pro-unionization, as having selected a union, when a simple majority of workers had signed a card — often in the presence of union organizers — stating support for such a move. McGovern lobbied Congress against card check, and he also appeared in an ad sponsored by a pro-business group that called secret ballots in union elections a “basic right.” “It’s hard to believe that any politician would agree to a law denying millions of employees the right to a private vote,” McGovern said in the ad. “I have always been a champion of labor unions. But I fear that today’s union leaders are turning their backs on democratic workplace elections.” In a follow-up interview with the Hill newspaper, McGovern said that a secret ballot is fundamental to the American understanding of democracy: “When we elect a president, sheriff, or member of Congress, we walk into the voting booth and pull the curtain free of anyone trying to twist our arm.” No one ever could twist George McGovern’s arm — either when he was wrong or when he was right. The prairie populist was his own man throughout his career, and the Democratic party and the country are both the poorer for his loss.
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I think if you look at human history you can easily see which view is correct.
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
Greed and selfishness exists in the realm of humanity, but it is indoctrinated from one generation to the next. Of course it's dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market mechanics, efficiency etc, etc. That's how each gen is brainwashed.
My own personal belief that after enough lives in this realm it doesn't need to be taught anymore, they are absolutely born that way cause they carry it from one life to the next....the dark side has it's minion. Which is precisely why all of us have to disavow this creation when we pass from here. Be done with it. No god we want any part of made this. Maybe at the beginning..who knows. But not now. Coming back here again and again furthers this bad story. But those are just my personal "beliefs".
Greed is not taught or comes from indoctrination. Greed is a natural desire we are all born with. You liberals have this misconceived notion that humans are inherently good and turn bad because their socio-economic backgrounds...you know, having no personal responsibility for the situation they find yourself in. The liberals "humans are inherently good" dogma presents itself every time there is a thug vs. cop incident. The instincts of your species is to naturally gravitate toward the side of the poor and disadvantaged thug giving him the benefit of the doubt. The cop musta have done something wrong.
The conservative viewpoint is that in general humans are inherently bad, and that one must strive to be good. Granted, for some being good is easier than for others. You must teach a child to share, not to be greedy, and not to have temper tantrums every time he doesn't get things his own way. Imagine how they would turn out if they went unchecked. You've never taken home items from work and not considered stealing because of its insignificant monetary value?
Too bad God didn't create everyone to have a burning desire to be good, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to etch up those 10 Commandments.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbors goods? Familiar with that one? ...the one that relates to greed?
Your view of greed is simpleton. How do you measure greed? I suppose the way you liberal extremists and socialist would measure it would be having more than the basic necessities to survive. Is wanting a bigger home greed? How about a home with a pool?
Were Henry Ford, Edison, the Wright Bros. Alex Bell, Carnegie, etc greedy men? The entrepreneurial spirit, free from government regulation..the main component of capitalism is what shaped this country into a great one. I wonder how these men would have fared if they were subjected to todays excessive govt. regulations.
Yeah its all about "greed", dressed up with fancy words like capitalism, free market..thats so superficial and simpleton Cleve.
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As a Christian I am for capitalism because it has shown it produces the highest standard of living in the world. Is it based on greed, yes. And yet I want the person who has made enough money to last hundreds of lifetimes to have a desire to make even more money, to grow a company further, add employees invest in new equipment to increase their profits. The reason is we all benefit from these people and I don't want to see them punished for success because they are the ones paying most of the taxes and building the roads and bridges. A rising tide does raise all the boats. Class warfare which the democrats play is destructive to our democracy. Why should I hate someone who is more successful than me or worked harder and smarter than me?
You intrinsically don't understand our economic structure and what it's really based on. You think that people who made more than you worked harder and were smarter, it's not true. Most of the hardest working people in this country are often the poorest. They just don't have the skillset that has been "chosen" arbitrarily. The financial movers have been chosen because they are the ones that expedite the bubble the most. And those that run our system make the most because they are able to ride the bubble in ways you couldn't even dream of. It of course is meant to suck the blood and sweat upwards with minimal "trickle down". That's a nice fabrication meant to keep people mostly unaware's of just how their labor is being usurped.
Most people don't really have an issue with others who make more because they may be stronger, faster smarter etc, etc. But we're well past those quaint notions of societal differences. And anybody who's been in the labor force for any real amt of time intrinsically knows this.
For an example of how far "our" brand of capitalism has distorted what you would call a 'true" market...look at our useless athletes and how much they make. Doctors, scientists...hell even the people who make our food without which we couldn't live...how much do they make compared to athletes? Of course that's our fault because we've come to demand what athletes do so heavily and regard them so highly that we've completely lost sight of what's important in this life. It's not the concept of capitalism I have an issue with, nor do I have an issue with socialism...because both have their places. There are areas where collective bahaviors benefit the whole the most and other areas where individual behaviors benefit the whole more. There's a time and place for market competition, but capitalists think everything benefits from being commoditized. And that's exactly why we're all going to be born with diabetes in 50 years (well not me I'm going back the mantle when I leave here). And if you think it's not a big deal that diabetes is slowly being etched into our DNA than you're further lost than I thought.
You intrinsically don't understand our economic structure and what it's really based on. You think that people who made more than you worked harder and were smarter, it's not true. Most of the hardest working people in this country are often the poorest. They just don't have the skillset that has been "chosen" arbitrarily. The financial movers have been chosen because they are the ones that expedite the bubble the most. And those that run our system make the most because they are able to ride the bubble in ways you couldn't even dream of. It of course is meant to suck the blood and sweat upwards with minimal "trickle down". That's a nice fabrication meant to keep people mostly unaware's of just how their labor is being usurped.
Most people don't really have an issue with others who make more because they may be stronger, faster smarter etc, etc. But we're well past those quaint notions of societal differences. And anybody who's been in the labor force for any real amt of time intrinsically knows this.
For an example of how far "our" brand of capitalism has distorted what you would call a 'true" market...look at our useless athletes and how much they make. Doctors, scientists...hell even the people who make our food without which we couldn't live...how much do they make compared to athletes? Of course that's our fault because we've come to demand what athletes do so heavily and regard them so highly that we've completely lost sight of what's important in this life. It's not the concept of capitalism I have an issue with, nor do I have an issue with socialism...because both have their places. There are areas where collective bahaviors benefit the whole the most and other areas where individual behaviors benefit the whole more. There's a time and place for market competition, but capitalists think everything benefits from being commoditized. And that's exactly why we're all going to be born with diabetes in 50 years (well not me I'm going back the mantle when I leave here). And if you think it's not a big deal that diabetes is slowly being etched into our DNA than you're further lost than I thought.
Yet your species will jump right in on a debate having no qualms about discussing whether or not a certain athlete "deserves" a $10 million dollar deal or $20 mil deal, then on the other side of your mouth admonish a corporate CEO for his million dollar salary.
I agree with you about the value to humankind of pro athletes, movie stars etc...but didn't LeBron James return spark Clevelands economy?
I don't object to the salaries of pro players. The market supports it because we as consumers support it. We love our sports.
No doubt capitalism is not perfect. In your rant you did a lot of complaining but you offered no solutions. That's because there aren't any. Recall the words of Winston Churchill and perhaps you'll feel better...
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
Oh, and also remember this one you bleeding heart idealist utopian...
"The poor will always be amongst us".
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Recall the words of Winston Churchill and perhaps you'll feel better...
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."*****************************************************************************************************************************Some things never change even in this "information age" so why is there such a problem with low information voters? Another one of Churchill's sayings decades ago is just as true today: “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
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Recall the words of Winston Churchill and perhaps you'll feel better...
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."*****************************************************************************************************************************Some things never change even in this "information age" so why is there such a problem with low information voters? Another one of Churchill's sayings decades ago is just as true today: “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
― Winston S. ChurchillRecall the words of Winston Churchill and perhaps you'll feel better...
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
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Some things never change even in this "information age" so why is there such a problem with low information voters? Another one of Churchill's sayings decades ago is just as true today: “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
Yes, and that's one reason the Founders were vehemently opposed to Democracies. Believed it to be nothing more than mob rule, yet we are brainwashed to believe it as a good thing...that we need to make the world safe for democracy
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we are a democracy. We were set up as a Republic.
"...and to the Democracy for which it stands, one nation..." lol
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Recall the words of Winston Churchill and perhaps you'll feel better...
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
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Some things never change even in this "information age" so why is there such a problem with low information voters? Another one of Churchill's sayings decades ago is just as true today: “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
Yes, and that's one reason the Founders were vehemently opposed to Democracies. Believed it to be nothing more than mob rule, yet we are brainwashed to believe it as a good thing...that we need to make the world safe for democracy
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we are a democracy. We were set up as a Republic.
"...and to the Democracy for which it stands, one nation..." lol
Stuart said:
Yes, and that's one reason the Founders were vehemently opposed to Democracies. Believed it to be nothing more than mob rule, yet we are brainwashed to believe it as a good thing...that we need to make the world safe for democracy
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we are a democracy. We were set up as a Republic.
"...and to the Democracy for which it stands, one nation..." lol
I know we are supposed to be a republic but I think we really are more of a mixture.
Is the United States of America a republic or a democracy?
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