Carson hate
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The Daily Caller didn't even read the article they quoted. The Pew Research says plainly that 61% of people polled believe in global warming. Of that 61%, 18% believe it is a natural warming and not man made.
So either the Daily Caller didn't read the poll or are trying to be intentionally deceptive.
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There is warming. Then there's cooling. The subject is man made global warming.
That is the controversy - accruing way too much power over people's activities and
their MONEY as well as companies' money because the left says "man made global
warming is a crisis"
That is the problem with the left. They change definitions any time it gives them an
emotional/political advantage. It used to be "man made global warming", then "global warming"
and now it's "climate change".
To the left it is all the same - a tool to get more control over other people especially financially,
then they can get the ultimate control over people - wanton dependency on gov.
When the media hypes the liberal global warming hysteria, that is pretty influencial to
emotional voters.
I'd like to see a poll where they ask "do you believe that global warming is a man made crisis and that
you should be taxed into poverty for every single activity you do, like have pets or run lawn mowers,
drive cars, go on vacation greater than 50 miles away from your home, and put farmers out of business
because they drive their farm tractors and other machinery a lot?
I'm pretty sure that would be a lot smaller percentage than the poll's 42 percent of those polled believing
that global warming is man made.
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http://www.naturalnews.com/045005_global_warming_climate_change_greenhouse_effect.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/041981_global_warming_computer_models_cooling.html
and, in conclusion, at least for now, we get back to the original political drive behind the UN's
"war" on "man made climate change" - they cherry pick data, for the UN's benefit.
What benefit?
The redistribution of wealth from rich countries around the world, to the poor countries.
Don't believe me? Okay, read on:
http://www.cfact.org/2013/02/06/global-warming-was-never-about-climate-change/
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oh and Hillary's an idiot too for the record before any of you go the higgardly card on me. I can't stand her. "BUT", compared to these guys getting rolled out on the right she's George Washington. You guys think letting clowns like Trump, Cruz and this Carson guy somehow helps define the eventual winner. It doesn't. It makes normal people think that the republican party is a far far worse danger than the democrats could ever be. You let people in the party get away with saying shit like pregnancy can't happen from rape cause the woman has some magic rune defense against getting pregnant in case of non consentual sex.
oh and Hillary's an idiot too for the record before any of you go the higgardly card on me. I can't stand her. "BUT", compared to these guys getting rolled out on the right she's George Washington.
No need to read on.
Your out of your freakin liberal mind...actually, your mind is lock step with liberal extremism thought.
Hillary is George Washington compared to nobody, except perhaps for the likes of Idi Amin or Stalin.
George Washington said "I cannot tell a lie". And Hillary?
Hillary is a bald faced liar, a charlatan, a deceiver. You may disagree with the other candidates but at least they shoot from the hip.
Yeah, yeah, I know the George Washington chopping the cherry tree story may be a myth, but so what.
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Look at how, now, the pot is calling the kettle black.
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I will just continue to side with 99% of the scientific community who aren't some monolithic block who have to agree with each other but all came to the same conclusions.
That said, where I disagree is that I don't think there is jack shit we can do. India and China could give a fuck less if their people hotbox toxic fumes all day and drink poisoned water. I doubt they are going to make any efforts to stop their activities unless solar and/or some other form of a cheaper alternative comes along.
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oh god not this global warming again, why do you right wing nutjobs keep bringing it up in every thread NOT related to the subject? That debate has long passed you by, it's over.
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Maybe try to read the whole thing again and focus on short term adjustments to a long-term adjustments?c'mon man you can't srsly be comparing the two. The missile crisis was two nations pulling their dicks out. People actually died on 9.11 and it changed the course of our foreign policy for "at least" a century if not more. It's going to be multiple chapters in some future textbooks.
How many similar incidents were there to 911 including perpetrators? What are the long lasting results?
Now what are the far-reaching and long lasting results of a giant step toward socialized medicine?
Especially any ever-present growth of social programs beginning with the New Deal and continuing to the Great Society?
WSS
Maybe try to read the whole thing again and focus on short term adjustments to a long-term adjustments?
How many similar incidents were there to 911 including perpetrators? What are the long lasting results?
Now what are the far-reaching and long lasting results of a giant step toward socialized medicine?
Especially any ever-present growth of social programs beginning with the New Deal and continuing to the Great Society?
WSS
Do you realize how many other countries have had some form of socialized medicine for decades now? This sky is falling down mentality about Obama care is a narrative that has been secretly programmed into your psyche and you don't realize it. Every country that has a social medicine program also has a private network where people of greater means can go through and get preferential treatment. Obama care will ALWAYS be for the margins. Maybe some people who consider themselves uber healthy and don't need expensive private insurance will opt to stay on Obama care, but that's a good thing right? Healthy people don't draw out the reserves. It's literally for the poorest people among us. For now at least i'm ok with it. I know people who were making 6 figures as engineers and architects but when the economy torped they lost their jobs but still had to carry health insurance for their family. I directly and personally know two people, both republicans btw which is super galling, who went on Obama care for a year or two to keep their families covered. Now that the housing mkt came back they're both making big money again and private insurance it is.
and of course now they're back to critiquing obama care. All of you would get on it with your backs up against the wall.
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Big changes from our system towards socialism are more dramatic and invasive than ramping up security.
(And that is the point of the discussion)
WSS
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Big changes from our system towards socialism are more dramatic and invasive than ramping up security.
(And that is the point of the discussion)
WSS
Big changes from our system towards socialism are more dramatic and invasive than ramping up security.
(And that is the point of the discussion)
WSS
but of course it's been more than just "ramping up" security. That statement just furthers my point that you don't understand the vast ramifications that 9.11 had on us.....and neither does Ben Carson which is why he won't be president. Even republicans when they get wind of that statement are gonna cringe, which is why he won't sniff the nomination. They need to run someone who's serious this time.
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Big changes from our system towards socialism are more dramatic and invasive than ramping up security.
(And that is the point of the discussion)
WSS
but of course it's been more than just "ramping up" security. That statement just furthers my point that you don't understand the vast ramifications that 9.11 had on us.....and neither does Ben Carson which is why he won't be president. Even republicans when they get wind of that statement are gonna cringe, which is why he won't sniff the nomination. They need to run someone who's serious this time.
but of course it's been more than just "ramping up" security. That statement just furthers my point that you don't understand the vast ramifications that 9.11 had on us.....and neither does Ben Carson which is why he won't be president. Even republicans when they get wind of that statement are gonna cringe, which is why he won't sniff the nomination. They need to run someone who's serious this time.
Again you avoid the apparently simple task of providing examples I asked for multiple posts back. Switching to socialism, steadily increasing the percentage of citizens that depend on government, is a bigger deal than spending a little more on security.
Again you dodged the point.
WSS
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but of course it's been more than just "ramping up" security. That statement just furthers my point that you don't understand the vast ramifications that 9.11 had on us.....and neither does Ben Carson which is why he won't be president. Even republicans when they get wind of that statement are gonna cringe, which is why he won't sniff the nomination. They need to run someone who's serious this time.
Again you avoid the apparently simple task of providing examples I asked for multiple posts back. Switching to socialism, steadily increasing the percentage of citizens that depend on government, is a bigger deal than spending a little more on security.
Again you dodged the point.
WSS
than spending a little more on security.
I mean that right there tells me you're never going to get it. Poor people getting healthcare vs the explosion of our surveillance state, that's what it boils down to. I'm not saying the ACA can't cause problems, i'm sure it will. But in the end 9.11 will have profoundly changed us more than giving poor people medical coverage. I'm mean jesus Christ. I'm going to bring this up the next time you complain about Obama pulling troops out of Iraq too soon. Who cares now cause Obama care is way way way worse than any of these Isis or Al Quida fucks. Talked yourself into one there Steve.
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than spending a little more on security.
I mean that right there tells me you're never going to get it. Poor people getting healthcare vs the explosion of our surveillance state, that's what it boils down to. I'm not saying the ACA can't cause problems, i'm sure it will. But in the end 9.11 will have profoundly changed us more than giving poor people medical coverage. I'm mean jesus Christ. I'm going to bring this up the next time you complain about Obama pulling troops out of Iraq too soon. Who cares now cause Obama care is way way way worse than any of these Isis or Al Quida fucks. Talked yourself into one there Steve.
I mean that right there tells me you're never going to get it. Poor people getting healthcare vs the explosion of our surveillance state, that's what it boils down to. I'm not saying the ACA can't cause problems, i'm sure it will. But in the end 9.11 will have profoundly changed us more than giving poor people medical coverage. I'm mean jesus Christ. I'm going to bring this up the next time you complain about Obama pulling troops out of Iraq too soon. Who cares now cause Obama care is way way way worse than any of these Isis or Al Quida fucks. Talked yourself into one there Steve.
Now you are wasting my time. And your own assuming you have something better to do.
Obama defeated al queda and killed Osama bin Laden. We are safe now.
WSS
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I mean that right there tells me you're never going to get it. Poor people getting healthcare vs the explosion of our surveillance state, that's what it boils down to. I'm not saying the ACA can't cause problems, i'm sure it will. But in the end 9.11 will have profoundly changed us more than giving poor people medical coverage. I'm mean jesus Christ. I'm going to bring this up the next time you complain about Obama pulling troops out of Iraq too soon. Who cares now cause Obama care is way way way worse than any of these Isis or Al Quida fucks. Talked yourself into one there Steve.
Now you are wasting my time. And your own assuming you have something better to do.
Obama defeated al queda and killed Osama bin Laden. We are safe now.
WSS
Now you are wasting my time. And your own assuming you have something better to do.
Obama defeated al queda and killed Osama bin Laden. We are safe now.
WSS
Which Steve am i talking to then? Cause the Westside Steve from earlier this week was ranting about how we brought back the troops from Iraq too soon. I mean we're safe now right?
CFFL
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The mental disability of liberals, is that they fail to learn
that their fringe causes are way left, but that they
call it "middle ground" because they want to be
accepted into the mainstream.
Just wishing doesn't make it so.
And most Americans - that was about 51-53 percent.
Now it's less. So, according to Pew, it is no longer
a majority of Americans.
But that won't stop you from spouting it endlessly.
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/23/why_does_a_new_poll_show_gay_marriage_support_dropping/
and, man made goober warning? hahahaha.
Most Americans are seeing that it isn't a crisis, nor a fact:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/poll-53-of-americans-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/
The mental disability of liberals, is that they fail to learn
that their fringe causes are way left, but that they
call it "middle ground" because they want to be
accepted into the mainstream.
Just wishing doesn't make it so.
And most Americans - that was about 51-53 percent.
Now it's less. So, according to Pew, it is no longer
a majority of Americans.
But that won't stop you from spouting it endlessly.
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/23/why_does_a_new_poll_show_gay_marriage_support_dropping/
and, man made goober warning? hahahaha.
Most Americans are seeing that it isn't a crisis, nor a fact:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/poll-53-of-americans-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/
You found a poll from last year saying support had dropped to 49%. Of course, within the margin of error this could easily be over 50%.
Here are three polls from 2015, all showing support over 50%:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx
I imagine the next iteration of the Pew Research Center poll will show similar numbers.
Regardless of how you feel on the subject, support will keep growing for gay marriage and it will be legal everywhere soon enough. Polls show less support for gay marriage the older the person being polled is. Thing is, these people aren't going to be around as much in the future as compared to the younger generations. As a result, support will keep growing. Not to mention just general education and knowledge will help grow support.
Also, I never said the majority of Americans believe man made climate change is a thing. I haven't looked at a public opinion poll. Thing is though, as opposed to the same sex marriage debate, this is a completely scientific issue. I don't care what the public opinion polls are on climate change really, the scientific community should be the voice on the matter. As Logic has mentioned, the vast, vast majority of the scientific community is in agreement. They have all done their own research, they've independently reached the same conclusion, they've had those conclusions peer reviewed. The only reason it is still a "debate" is because people made it a political issue. It isn't. It is a scientific issue. If we can't even get people to acknowledge it is occurring, we won't be able to decide what to do about it. What the potentially scientifically illiterate public thinks on the matter shouldn't really play into the conclusion on a scientific issue. Someone could think it is or isn't happening based solely on what their political party tells them. Their opinons shouldn't influence the conclusion. The scientific community should.
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Since does science deny evidence that doesn't meet with their agenda?
We've been over the fraudulent cherry picking of "scientific evidence" before, more than once.
All I am telling you, is that mmgw is the UN's weapon of choice, in a duel to redistribute wealth.
And, more and more, people are understanding that there is science supporting a strong
denial that mmgw is happening, or at least, there is NO crisis ,regardless of how strong'
the liberals want that political advantage.
The controversy is gaining traction. Censoring a whole group of scientists and science because it
doesn't fit the pro-liberal agenda is losing the argument a little at a time.
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I'll repost this, since the nonsense claims are coming out again about it.
then I'll post this again:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241
Now, any freaking "truth" that has 17,000 scientists disputing it....
is no truth. It's a controversial theory, the supporters of which have a
UN admitted hidden agenda, and a vicious anger about being questioned.
Which brings to mind somebody mentioned, I'm thinkin it was Woody, about
it's good to question everything, challenge everything.
But it is only bad to challenge or question when it's the liberals and the corrupt UN
say it's bad.
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Cal, 17,000 is not much when compared to the number of scientists world wide.
Also. I am sure that the vast majority of the scientific community all just have a hive mind that is controlled by the UN. Their profession does not teach them to question data at all. Not ever.
Cal, I work in a field that has billions of dollars tied up in being able to burn oil and gas. When those guys tell you man made global warming is real even at great financial peril, I trust them.
But carry on as you wish. This argument has been hashed and rehashed a ton of times.
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What Logic said. 17,000 is a drop in the bucket. You could go further and dig into what they consider "scientists". Hell, I think engineers are awesome, but I've seen them on some of your lists and more often than not they really shouldn't count.
You really think the vast, vast majority of qualified scientists and scientific groups worldwide are all colluding together in some liberal scheme? Are you that dumb? That's not how this works. They have independent research, peer reviews, etc.
There is no denial of denier evidence. It is either bring skewed or sometimes just inaccurate. Myself and others have pointed this out numerous times.
I would count the one disagreeing with almost the entirety of the scientific community as the one in denial...
Too bad this became a political issue. Scientific issues should not be infected by politics.
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Now you are wasting my time. And your own assuming you have something better to do.
Obama defeated al queda and killed Osama bin Laden. We are safe now.
WSS
Which Steve am i talking to then? Cause the Westside Steve from earlier this week was ranting about how we brought back the troops from Iraq too soon. I mean we're safe now right?
CFFL
Which Steve am i talking to then? Cause the Westside Steve from earlier this week was ranting about how we brought back the troops from Iraq too soon. I mean we're safe now right?
CFFL
I don't remember making any such rent. I think we all especially the most hyperbolic of us, tend to blame every member of the board for everything other left or right wing posters have to say.
but, and I hesitate to get any further into it, just for clarification I was kidding about being safe since we assassinated Osama bin Laden. I don't believe he planned or executed 911 and may or may not have even been briefed on it beforehand.
WSS
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