Duke Johnson? Tashaun Gipson?
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Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
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Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
I would agree with every word....I also doubt the Browns woulda pulled the rug out, but they "could" have....which was the risk for Tashaun. I do think they offered him a longer better deal, but he opted not to sign....holding out for more $ or the opportunity to test the market. So we shall see how he plays, then how it all goes I guess.....
I think they would sign Mack to a longer deal in a hot second, but dont think he will allow for talks or that option during the season.....he pretty clearly has said he'll wait and see how things go.....honestly dont think he really wants to be here....so, again, I think it'll be a year before we know anything......of course, if we go 8-0 to start he might jump on the band wagon/////
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It's all on Duke now......
Not only is he now the only unsigned Brown....he's one of only 12 rookies who isnt signed(which tells me there is some kind of a problem)....so far, 244 out of 256 have signed...
Sooooo......when do we start to wonder wtf?......Because of the pre determined pay scale, the only 2 options I can come up with are:
1) He wants to be the exception and get paid above his draft position
2) He is quibbling about a minor amount of money(2-3% variance)
Personally, as long as he's here and playing, I guess I dont care.....but this type of stuff has a way of recurring with the same people through out their careers and it makes me nervous when everyone else falls in and signs, but our guy doesnt.....so I hope he's not a head case or completely full of himself and it's just a minor stumbling block.....(though I wonder...cause minor problems are usually overcome pretty quickly)....
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welcome to 9 posts ago.So he has signed on now.
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It's all on Duke now......
Not only is he now the only unsigned Brown....he's one of only 12 rookies who isnt signed(which tells me there is some kind of a problem)....so far, 244 out of 256 have signed...
Sooooo......when do we start to wonder wtf?......Because of the pre determined pay scale, the only 2 options I can come up with are:
1) He wants to be the exception and get paid above his draft position
2) He is quibbling about a minor amount of money(2-3% variance)
Personally, as long as he's here and playing, I guess I dont care.....but this type of stuff has a way of recurring with the same people through out their careers and it makes me nervous when everyone else falls in and signs, but our guy doesnt.....so I hope he's not a head case or completely full of himself and it's just a minor stumbling block.....(though I wonder...cause minor problems are usually overcome pretty quickly)....
It's all on Duke now......
Not only is he now the only unsigned Brown....he's one of only 12 rookies who isnt signed(which tells me there is some kind of a problem)....so far, 244 out of 256 have signed...
Sooooo......when do we start to wonder wtf?......Because of the pre determined pay scale, the only 2 options I can come up with are:
1) He wants to be the exception and get paid above his draft position
2) He is quibbling about a minor amount of money(2-3% variance)
Personally, as long as he's here and playing, I guess I dont care.....but this type of stuff has a way of recurring with the same people through out their careers and it makes me nervous when everyone else falls in and signs, but our guy doesnt.....so I hope he's not a head case or completely full of himself and it's just a minor stumbling block.....(though I wonder...cause minor problems are usually overcome pretty quickly)....
All about the Benjamin$ Mud. Take a look at spottrac and I can hear his agent now. "Duke you got drafted by a team that ranks dead last (32nd) in paying RB's and they say they are committed to running the Ball". Slotted RB's may help, but he brings up a fair point on rookie contracts. A high injury position (RB) with a team committed to high usage? The debate is on imo.
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It's all on Duke now......
Not only is he now the only unsigned Brown....he's one of only 12 rookies who isnt signed(which tells me there is some kind of a problem)....so far, 244 out of 256 have signed...
Sooooo......when do we start to wonder wtf?......Because of the pre determined pay scale, the only 2 options I can come up with are:
1) He wants to be the exception and get paid above his draft position
2) He is quibbling about a minor amount of money(2-3% variance)
Personally, as long as he's here and playing, I guess I dont care.....but this type of stuff has a way of recurring with the same people through out their careers and it makes me nervous when everyone else falls in and signs, but our guy doesnt.....so I hope he's not a head case or completely full of himself and it's just a minor stumbling block.....(though I wonder...cause minor problems are usually overcome pretty quickly)....
All about the Benjamin$ Mud. Take a look at spottrac and I can hear his agent now. "Duke you got drafted by a team that ranks dead last (32nd) in paying RB's and they say they are committed to running the Ball". Slotted RB's may help, but he brings up a fair point on rookie contracts. A high injury position (RB) with a team committed to high usage? The debate is on imo.
All about the Benjamin$ Mud. Take a look at spottrac and I can hear his agent now. "Duke you got drafted by a team that ranks dead last (32nd) in paying RB's and they say they are committed to running the Ball". Slotted RB's may help, but he brings up a fair point on rookie contracts. A high injury position (RB) with a team committed to high usage? The debate is on imo.
I would only argue that all our players are paid in-line with the rookie pay scale....and right now, our signed RB's are 3 young UDFA's and one 3rd rounder....and all 4 are paid to scale.....
So, no matter how much we are paying them as a group....not one is underpaid according to the league wide salaries.....
Udfa's earn minimum....thats just how it is.......and West is a perfect example, because he was drafted at the same 3rd round slot Williams was and signed up no problem.....
High usage should be what a rookie wants....then he can run up some stats and get paid for actual production.....thats how it works in my lil world....
Bottom line is that there is a slotted pre-determined cap amount we have available to sign all of our rookies...no more, no less....and now 11 outta 12 are signed, meaning 11 outta 12 bucks are spent.....so, when there are only crumbs left over, it can spell trouble for anyone who shows up late and expects a buffet.........
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Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
How can you misspell his name and get it right all in the span of two sentences?
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Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
Get the feeling Gibson is in the market for a new Agent. (whoever he has now?) Mud, I don't believe Browns would have blackballed Gipson on lower deal and Hope like hell he stays Healthy and Proves his long term deal just under Haden or Williams. Just don't like the Franchise Tag idea, Just like J. Graham and many others, They play it (F.Tag) and leave. Just win now and keep Mack we don't need a F.Tag in 2016 neither Sign them Farmer..
Good post Gumby! As someone else reminded us recently, Gipson returns from a season ending knee injury. Speaking of Mack, after getting a hefty raise in 2014 - he's also returning from a season ending injury.
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h1 hour ago Ohio, USA#browns tashaun Gipson held out of practice with a hamstring. Pettine: "it's disappointing to not be here and then show up w/ injury"Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 9m9 minutes ago#Browns Tashaun Gipson said he pulled the hamstring training at home in Dallas: "I wanted to be at the physical peak of my career.''Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 2h2 hours ago Middleburg Heights, OH#browns RB Duke Johnson is practicing despite not being signed yet, as expected. Deal is close
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Hey, Gipson, way to go to get more money - hurt yourself at home, avoiding
practices with the team.
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Zombo said:
And ... it's still June.
Zombo
It is still Cleveland....still the Browns. Injuries always plague us.....be it the NBA Finals or early mini-camp.
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Zombo said:
grrrreat!
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