Rucker/Hubbard
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I guess you guys are all going to telling me I can try to learn how to kick field goals.! If I try hard enough I can learn! Hogwash
I guess you guys are all going to telling me I can try to learn how to kick field goals.! If I try hard enough I can learn! Hogwash
Sure you can, doesn't mean you'll be clutch under pressure. But as long as you're not a fat, lazy, glutton- you should be able to learn how to kick a 40 yarder with reasonable consistency.
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You ought to appreciate this Golfer.....
I've played golf since I was 8 years old....and I got better. still a 12 handicap though....you see it comes down to putting. And
I can drive the ball 320 but not always in the fairway.
I can catch the ball pretty well too......but I'm being myopic....ha ha ha
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Look...you call me dense....I 've given you 5 different examples of how you can improve yet not have "it". I talking about Hubbard and him being "taught" to catch at this stage of his career at his Talent level... And you compare hubbard to tiger woods. sooo funny
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Please.... thrill me with your acumen....give me an example of someone who had the dropsies in college that became a great dependable pro?
Please.... thrill me with your acumen....give me an example of someone who had the dropsies in college that became a great dependable pro?
If I'm not mistaken, Marques Colston had some issues bringing in the ball in college. But he spent his rookie minicamp assiduously working on it, as well as his route running, and turned into a solid pro.
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@inspecta said:
Are you guys telling me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?I'm confused....
It is very bad to drink Jobu's rum. Very bad....
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@jadbf said:
Because I'll go back to this statement..and you can try to later reword it anyway you want.Tell that to James Harrison...you know...the defensive player of the year this year? Gee, TWO SEPARATE TEAMS considered him "iffy to start" for a number of years, both teams cut him more than once...and yet now he's the best....seems to me something changed....
I don't need to reword it...we are talking about Catching a football!
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@jadbf said:
If you can't follow the comparisons, that's your problem. I think everyone else can.I don't have a problem at all....I think your arguements and comparisons are funny as hell! You obviously don't agree with my contention's. Which is your right. I don't have to call you names to get my point across
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I'm not talking about improving...sure anyone can improve.....but this is the NFL. It's littered with guys that were good enough to get there but you have to be good at catching to stay. MLB Baseball is littered with guys who could hit fastballs but never the curve. At the elite level...you got it or you don't. sooo funny
I'm not talking about improving...sure anyone can improve.....but this is the NFL. It's littered with guys that were good enough to get there but you have to be good at catching to stay. MLB Baseball is littered with guys who could hit fastballs but never the curve. At the elite level...you got it or you don't. sooo funny
Going off what you guys said...let's bring back Quincy Morgan....ha ha ha...we can teach him. Let's coach em up!!!
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@rich4eagle said:
have yah noticed our board asshole erty has deleted three or more threads in the last 24 hours to defend his mindless fascist stupidityRich, it sucks that your posts/threads are being deleted. But do you think its really necessary to bitch about it in every single unrelated thread?
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You obviously didn't make the debate team...
you can't teach someone to catch after the age of 8! You got it or you don't.
You obviously didn't make the debate team...
you can't teach someone to catch after the age of 8! You got it or you don't.
I agree and have said so for a long time. If you can't catch by the time you are 20, it isn't going to happen.
You might as well try to teach somebody to run 4.3 40's.
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You obviously didn't make the debate team...
you can't teach someone to catch after the age of 8! You got it or you don't.
I agree and have said so for a long time. If you can't catch by the time you are 20, it isn't going to happen.
You might as well try to teach somebody to run 4.3 40's.
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Most people know how I feel about good ole Glue Hands Hubbard. Thing is, it's not just his poor hands, it's the whole gamut of athletic skills and instincts that he lacks. Watching him last year was like watching an unskilled junior high player for the most part. He jumps for balls at his waist, he flat out misjudges balls in the air, he has no idea of where his feet are, his routes look like he's drunk and overall he looks and plays like a dumbass.
It's a lot more than just refining some poor receiving techniques, it's almost like a complete engine overhaul. This is the NFL, and if a guy doesn't have a semblance of game by the time he reaches this level he never will. Colston had drops issues, but he also knew how to play receiver. Glue Hands is completely clueless. If it wasn't for the fact Phillip drafted him last year he would have been cut.
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Most people know how I feel about good ole Glue Hands Hubbard. Thing is, it's not just his poor hands, it's the whole gamut of athletic skills and instincts that he lacks. Watching him last year was like watching an unskilled junior high player for the most part. He jumps for balls at his waist, he flat out misjudges balls in the air, he has no idea of where his feet are, his routes look like he's drunk and overall he looks and plays like a dumbass.
It's a lot more than just refining some poor receiving techniques, it's almost like a complete engine overhaul. This is the NFL, and if a guy doesn't have a semblance of game by the time he reaches this level he never will. Colston had drops issues, but he also knew how to play receiver. Glue Hands is completely clueless. If it wasn't for the fact Phillip drafted him last year he would have been cut.
Most people know how I feel about good ole Glue Hands Hubbard. Thing is, it's not just his poor hands, it's the whole gamut of athletic skills and instincts that he lacks. Watching him last year was like watching an unskilled junior high player for the most part. He jumps for balls at his waist, he flat out misjudges balls in the air, he has no idea of where his feet are, his routes look like he's drunk and overall he looks and plays like a dumbass.
It's a lot more than just refining some poor receiving techniques, it's almost like a complete engine overhaul. This is the NFL, and if a guy doesn't have a semblance of game by the time he reaches this level he never will. Colston had drops issues, but he also knew how to play receiver. Glue Hands is completely clueless. If it wasn't for the fact Phillip drafted him last year he would have been cut.
That reminded me of Ben "The Legend" Gay trying to play RB. The NFL is NOT the place to start learning how to play football.
Hasn't this organization had it's fill of High School phenoms and track stars?
-Al
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Every WR drafted can catch the ball and run routes. The question should be can you coach consistency or better route running. It's proven, you can coach up speed. A few tenths, but you can coach up speed. I don't think anybody can question the fact that you can coach up route running. Just look a Ted Ginn, he didn't know what a route was until his soph year at OSU and was still iffy when he got drafted. Know he runs routes with nice sharp cuts. He just isn't all speed.
Know can you teach someone to catch the ball......................
Fact is they all can catch the ball or they wouldn't have made it through college as a WR or be playing in the NFL. Fact is some players are very inconsistant, ala Hubbard. It doesn't mean he can't catch, it means he lacks concentration, confidence, technique or a combination of the above. Edwards can catch, but a combination of the factors above makes a year like last year after a pro bowl year.
So, yes you can coach up a receiver to learn to catch more consistantly. He has to learn concentration which can be taught, he has to learn technique, which can be taught and he needs to have confidence, which also can be instilled into a player by sports psycologists.
Saying you can't coach up a WR or a RB or a lineman or a CB is so far out in left field it is laughable. There's a reason teams have position coaches. There's a reason they have practices with drills. They all have basic skills. Some apply themselves better and learn better technique, better route running, how to get separation and absorb during drills to that teach concentration. Others, try to get by on natural ability and let their egos stand in the way of individual improvement.
There's a reason 1st rounders fail and 4th rounders become starters, then all pros. It isn't all about natural ability and bringing to the NFL a player at his peek. Sometimes it is applying yourself and learning from the best and allowing yourself to get better. Checking your ego at the door working to be the best you can be means you are willing to be taught.
Can you be coached up to be a better WR, catch the ball more consistently using better technique and with confidence .
Hell yes.................................................
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What's the point in polishing a turd, it's still a turd.
Ig i hired someone and found out he didn't have the basic skills to compete and win business, i'd slap myself for making a mistake and fire him. catching the ball is a basic fundamental of being a wideout isn't it? I know I'm a know nothing limey, but I know that much.
I'm prepared to post a youtube video of me eating my hat if he catches a whole truckload next season but if he does it won't be because he was taught to do it, it will be that he unlocked his confidence to let his natural ability to do it. But I don't think I'll be getting the steak sauce out for my hat any time soon.
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