Vince Mayle = Braylon Edwards 2.0 (fixed)
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Forget his 40 times, the big question is how many of those plastic thingies did he swipe during the 'jump real high' test? As we all know, that test along with the 'how fast can you boogie around the cones' test are the real indicators of just how good a football player will be.
Forget his 40 times, the big question is how many of those plastic thingies did he swipe during the 'jump real high' test? As we all know, that test along with the 'how fast can you boogie around the cones' test are the real indicators of just how good a football player will be.
I actually think the boogie around cones test holds some weight.
Not that it indicates future NFL success, but that it is a better representation of the ahtleticism and abilities of players.
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yes...pro day times.....but, no matter where....if you run 4.5, then you have 4.5 speed....
At the combine, he was limited due to his broken thumb and no training or practice with running the 40.....and, at the last minute, he also had to reverse his natural starting stance from left to right, which cost him....
yes...pro day times.....but, no matter where....if you run 4.5, then you have 4.5 speed....
At the combine, he was limited due to his broken thumb and no training or practice with running the 40.....and, at the last minute, he also had to reverse his natural starting stance from left to right, which cost him....
Oh, so pro day numbers outweigh combine numbers if you like the prospect enough? Got it.
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whatever woody.....go ahead and put words in my mouth....
someone simply asked how fast is he compared to Gordon and I gave him an answer......and NOW we have to haggle some bull shit about where it was timed?....or how some other time somehow supersedes it?......
Gordon ran 4.53 at his pro day.....Mayle ran 4.52 at his pro day....meaning they are comparable....which was the WHOLE point...
So why you and Baconhound find issue with that and need to turn it into something else is beyond me....
fwiw...dude ran a 4.52 and a 4.56....as well as a 4.67.....the 4.67 does NOT mean he cant run 4.52(he did, didnt he)???....and if he CAN run 4.52, does that not mean he has 4.52 speed....?
So....what exactly is your point?.....that he cant or hasnt run 4.5?......
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Woody, go back and take your time and read his post.....
then be very quiet. The combine was in February, their pro
day was in April. Most people with any common sense
would think the faster time at the pro day would be a bit
more valid since his thumb wouldn't be affecting him as much,
and he could adjust his stance, etc, in the 40..
He had a broken thumb bothering him in Feb.
April comes well after February. Take your time, and try to think about it.
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Forget his 40 times, the big question is how many of those plastic thingies did he swipe during the 'jump real high' test? As we all know, that test along with the 'how fast can you boogie around the cones' test are the real indicators of just how good a football player will be.
Forget his 40 times, the big question is how many of those plastic thingies did he swipe during the 'jump real high' test? As we all know, that test along with the 'how fast can you boogie around the cones' test are the real indicators of just how good a football player will be.
Agree...
You have to be "fast enough" straight line, but agility (as measured by the "boogie", AKA 3-cone, drill and to a lesser extent the 20-yd shuttle) and vertical go a long way in separating WR wheat from chaff.
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whatever woody.....go ahead and put words in my mouth....
someone simply asked how fast is he compared to Gordon and I gave him an answer......and NOW we have to haggle some bull shit about where it was timed?....or how some other time somehow supersedes it?......
Gordon ran 4.53 at his pro day.....Mayle ran 4.52 at his pro day....meaning they are comparable....which was the WHOLE point...
So why you and Baconhound find issue with that and need to turn it into something else is beyond me....
fwiw...dude ran a 4.52 and a 4.56....as well as a 4.67.....the 4.67 does NOT mean he cant run 4.52(he did, didnt he)???....and if he CAN run 4.52, does that not mean he has 4.52 speed....?
So....what exactly is your point?.....that he cant or hasnt run 4.5?......
whatever woody.....go ahead and put words in my mouth....
someone simply asked how fast is he compared to Gordon and I gave him an answer......and NOW we have to haggle some bull shit about where it was timed?....or how some other time somehow supersedes it?......
Gordon ran 4.53 at his pro day.....Mayle ran 4.52 at his pro day....meaning they are comparable....which was the WHOLE point...
So why you and Baconhound find issue with that and need to turn it into something else is beyond me....
fwiw...dude ran a 4.52 and a 4.56....as well as a 4.67.....the 4.67 does NOT mean he cant run 4.52(he did, didnt he)???....and if he CAN run 4.52, does that not mean he has 4.52 speed....?
So....what exactly is your point?.....that he cant or hasnt run 4.5?......
My point was I haven't heard where Gordon ran a 4.67 40, which for a WR is slow.
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whatever woody.....go ahead and put words in my mouth....
someone simply asked how fast is he compared to Gordon and I gave him an answer......and NOW we have to haggle some bull shit about where it was timed?....or how some other time somehow supersedes it?......
Gordon ran 4.53 at his pro day.....Mayle ran 4.52 at his pro day....meaning they are comparable....which was the WHOLE point...
So why you and Baconhound find issue with that and need to turn it into something else is beyond me....
fwiw...dude ran a 4.52 and a 4.56....as well as a 4.67.....the 4.67 does NOT mean he cant run 4.52(he did, didnt he)???....and if he CAN run 4.52, does that not mean he has 4.52 speed....?
So....what exactly is your point?.....that he cant or hasnt run 4.5?......
My point was I haven't heard where Gordon ran a 4.67 40, which for a WR is slow.
I haven't heard where Gordon ran a 4.67 40
Thats because he didnt.....
He ran 4.53, which is 0.01 slower than the 4.52 that Mayle ran.....
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I haven't heard where Gordon ran a 4.67 40
Thats because he didnt.....
He ran 4.53, which is 0.01 slower than the 4.52 that Mayle ran.....
Thats because he didnt.....
He ran 4.53, which is 0.01 slower than the 4.52 that Mayle ran.....
Well, that's that, Puffy's too slow to play in the NFL. Now if his Boogie Around The Cones time was fast, then maybe, just maybe he could still play.
Much like the BAtC World Champions: Veikune, Wimbley, Mingo, ..........................
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I don't have a problem with Mayle just been watching a lot of hoops and baseball and forgot about the "he's our guy rule". Now if we had a WR with Mayle's size and Hawkins speed we'd have someone to get excited about.
And to be fair Mayle's pro day times were 4.65, 4.52 & 4.56
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Terrelle Pryor=Josh Gordon 2.0?
I'd say more of a Jimmy Graham/Antonio Gates 2.0.
Could you imagine if both of them (Mayle and Pryor) ended up developing up to that level of hype? Stranger things have happened in the NFL.
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Terrelle Pryor=Josh Gordon 2.0?
I'd say more of a Jimmy Graham/Antonio Gates 2.0.
Could you imagine if both of them (Mayle and Pryor) ended up developing up to that level of hype? Stranger things have happened in the NFL.
I'd say more of a Jimmy Graham/Antonio Gates 2.0.
Another one he kind of reminds me of because of his size and smooth stride is Mike Evans.....though they have the same speed, somehow pryor seems faster and even more elusive once the ball is in his hands...
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I'd say more of a Jimmy Graham/Antonio Gates 2.0.
Another one he kind of reminds me of because of his size and smooth stride is Mike Evans.....though they have the same speed, somehow pryor seems faster and even more elusive once the ball is in his hands...
Another one he kind of reminds me of because of his size and smooth stride is Mike Evans.....though they have the same speed, somehow pryor seems faster and even more elusive once the ball is in his hands...
Let's not forget the things that actually come with being a receiver - route running, hand catching, occasional blocking, jump ball contesting, things that Evans may have the edge on.
I'd love for Pryor to magically turn in to an elite receiver, but let's just say I'm reserving judgement.
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Another one he kind of reminds me of because of his size and smooth stride is Mike Evans.....though they have the same speed, somehow pryor seems faster and even more elusive once the ball is in his hands...
Let's not forget the things that actually come with being a receiver - route running, hand catching, occasional blocking, jump ball contesting, things that Evans may have the edge on.
I'd love for Pryor to magically turn in to an elite receiver, but let's just say I'm reserving judgement.
Let's not forget the things that actually come with being a receiver - route running, hand catching, occasional blocking, jump ball contesting, things that Evans may have the edge on.
I'd love for Pryor to magically turn in to an elite receiver, but let's just say I'm reserving judgement.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm willingly suspending all disbelief and assuming he'll learn the nuances of becoming a receiver overnight. A guy can hope.
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Another one he kind of reminds me of because of his size and smooth stride is Mike Evans.....though they have the same speed, somehow pryor seems faster and even more elusive once the ball is in his hands...
Let's not forget the things that actually come with being a receiver - route running, hand catching, occasional blocking, jump ball contesting, things that Evans may have the edge on.
I'd love for Pryor to magically turn in to an elite receiver, but let's just say I'm reserving judgement.
Let's not forget the things that actually come with being a receiver - route running, hand catching, occasional blocking, jump ball contesting, things that Evans may have the edge on.
I'd love for Pryor to magically turn in to an elite receiver, but let's just say I'm reserving judgement.
Yeah...me too......Evans definitely has the edge by miles.....just comparing the physical similarities.....
Oh, absolutely.
I'm willingly suspending all disbelief and assuming he'll learn the nuances of becoming a receiver overnight.
A guy can hope.
Yes, he can....we have no investment in this one, so why not???....you just never know....
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Evans isn't a finesse receiver yet by any means. Didn't even play football until his junior or senior year of high school. What he does is dominate press corners at the line of scrimmage and he knows exactly how much PI he can get away with before he goes up for the catch. I agree Pryor's build is similar, but is he gonna have that kinda mean streak?
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Evans isn't a finesse receiver yet by any means. Didn't even play football until his junior or senior year of high school. What he does is dominate press corners at the line of scrimmage and he knows exactly how much PI he can get away with before he goes up for the catch. I agree Pryor's build is similar, but is he gonna have that kinda mean streak?
Evans isn't a finesse receiver yet by any means. Didn't even play football until his junior or senior year of high school. What he does is dominate press corners at the line of scrimmage and he knows exactly how much PI he can get away with before he goes up for the catch. I agree Pryor's build is similar, but is he gonna have that kinda mean streak?
Who knows?... if I had to guess, I dont see Pryor as gritty or having a mean streak.....but, again, I was just making a physical comparison to Evans......not trying to say he has Evans talent or skills as a WR........
Though....if he can learn the position and make some catches.....then I think he'll have mad skills after the catch....
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Evans isn't a finesse receiver yet by any means. Didn't even play football until his junior or senior year of high school. What he does is dominate press corners at the line of scrimmage and he knows exactly how much PI he can get away with before he goes up for the catch. I agree Pryor's build is similar, but is he gonna have that kinda mean streak?
Evans ... knows exactly how much PI he can get away with before he goes up for the catch.
lol... if by the above you mean "pushes off most of the time", then we agree.
The one thing I saw his rookie season that I did not credit him with at A&M was his body control. His rookie year he made a couple great, twisting catches on his way to the ground...
... after pushing off of course...
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Yes, and he knows exactly how much he can get away with.
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So Vince Mayle just got cut again. Maybe Farmer doesn't draft WRs because he knows he sucks at it? Either way, good job cutting the losses on that one, I guess it just didn't translate from college to the pros. Now, about Dwayne Bowe...
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