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  • @mld-woody said:

    Did you see some of the public opinion polls I've posted? I'm talking in a perfect world here. I don't want to public's misconceptions influencing scientific issues.

    France is doing a pretty good job with Nuclear power, right?

    It's doing ok, and they, along with china, are investing in nuclear power in the UK.

    While in an ideal world we shouldn't be swayed by public opinion on these matter, we need to be realistic about what is achievable. If you get $1bn for nuclear funding, or $5bn for solar funding, it would be irresponsible to go with the former if the latter can produce better returns.

    @gftchris said:

    It's doing ok, and they, along with china, are investing in nuclear power in the UK.

    While in an ideal world we shouldn't be swayed by public opinion on these matter, we need to be realistic about what is achievable. If you get $1bn for nuclear funding, or $5bn for solar funding, it would be irresponsible to go with the former if the latter can produce better returns.

    Right, "if". I do not know all of the costs, energy savings, etc, but I'd imagine Nuclear Power has a high start up cost but a high rate of return. $1b in Nuclear Power could produce more energy than $5b in solar. I am not sure though. But yes, if those were your two options, all else equal, you'd go with the better return on investment.

  • "If" we didn't have time zones

    The entire planet would be better off

  • I'm going to invent a scientific deep space boomerang theory. Sure, I'll find some data.

    In space, surely, eventually, an object would turn along with different gravities. Then,

    if it turned enough, it could work it's way back to where it came from.

  • I don't want to think of the ramifications of screwing with the sun. Send it out into deep space.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I don't want to think of the ramifications of screwing with the sun. Send it out into deep space.

    That's hilarious.. 😆

  • On public opinion for things like Nuclear Power...

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  • I'm going to invent a scientific deep space boomerang theory. Sure, I'll find some data.

    In space, surely, eventually, an object would turn along with different gravities. Then,

    if it turned enough, it could work it's way back to where it came from.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm going to invent a scientific deep space boomerang theory. Sure, I'll find some data.

    In space, surely, eventually, an object would turn along with different gravities. Then,

    if it turned enough, it could work it's way back to where it came from.

    Sure, if you aimed it at the sun almost it can slingshot back round. But space is very sparse.

  • Leave it to woodypeckerhead to ridicule all those lives lost on 9/11, all their relatives and friends,

    1/4 of all Americans (allegedly - nonsense), and all those people with learning disabilities with a slur based upon

    a smartass adult cartoon.

    Live doesn't revolve around a cartoon, asswipe woodpecker - you really are the butt of this board.

  • Space is SPARCE?

    Wait, space is infinite. I mean, it doesn't have an end. If it did,

    what would be beyond the end?

    More space.... !

  • Deep space? Which brings to mind a question - if we sent it into deep space,

    and it never hits any other planet or object... might it just swing around and come

    right back at us ?

    Or, might it hit a civilized planet in another solar system, and they get all liberally po'd,

    and flying saucer fly here, invade our planet, and try to wipe our all life on our planet

    with their little pink hankies?

    I'm working too hard. I still have about 42 trees, at least, to cut up for firewood,

    fence to put up around the giant garden, and went to the farmer's market, came home

    just in time to get in the house before the dark clouds let loose with tons of rain and high

    winds, about 60 mph. Then, my Wifie looks out the window and says - uhoh, our green house

    is open. So, I go out there, shut one door, close and block the vent, and when I try to shut

    the other door, a giant gust of wind and rain throws the door back open and I go blackwards.

    Then, I finally got the second door shut and latched, and I was completely soaked halfway

    to the greenhouse in the first place, and went to go back to our house, and it hailed.

    60 mph rain, and hail and wind, and braches being broken off of trees, and leaves.

    The neighbors' trampoline was thrown vertical and against their deck, and was bent and

    twisted.

    And, after I did get back to the house, we got a cell phone call - it was about the tornado warning.

    Yep. Missed us by less than a mile.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Deep space? Which brings to mind a question - if we sent it into deep space,

    and it never hits any other planet or object... might it just swing around and come

    right back at us ?

    Great question.......and Id think this is a realistic possibility......while rocketing waste out of our solar system isn't........

    Consider this:....ALL things in our solar system are held in place by the gravity of our sun.....so if we were to just launch waste into space, it would likely remain in our solar system and start it's own orbit....around something....somewhere.....

    If it developed a larger eliptical orbit, it could come back in a year......a thousand years.....or even 100,000 years.....a good example of this would be comets and asteroids, which have proven to maintain huge solar orbits and calculated return paths for centuries......

    So, the only way to avoid the waste going into a dangerous orbit around the sun, is to send it beyond(outside) our solar system, which right now, we dont even have the capacity to do.....and the cost and fuel required would be completely outrageous....it would require mega million dollar space ships and even more fuel to dispose of it than the original fuel that was used to make the waste...if that makes sense......

    so, building a long distance rocket and fueling it up...to carry how much waste?....over and over again?.....no way....

  • Most dangerous person in the world? No, not the head of ISIS, not Putin, the pope. Right.

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/16/fox-news-host-attacks-pope-francis-for-addressi/204022

    FWIW, I like the black guy there - I guess he's some kind of preacher? Not sure.

  • The black guy is Juan Williams the liberal Fox hired when he got fired from the tolerant liberal NPR when he strayed from liberal thought and said something they didn't like.

  • When the stereotypical fox conspiracy-theory guy was going on about the cult of malthus, pope being a marxist, and the other stuff, this guy impressed me by saying "couldn't the pope just be saying let's take better care of god's green planet?"

    But nope, the pope's a marxist and must be stopped. Most dangerous man in the world.

  • The Pope's goal of helping the poor is good and biblical and I don't fault him for this. What I find fault for is his socialist views on the best way to do it.

    Both China and India have improved their economies and the people have benefited when they turned towards capitalism. Freedom and not government controls is the path to prosperity.

    "Pope Francis is once again insisting that he is not a communist, that his abiding concern for “the poor” is grounded in the Gospel of Christ, not the ideology of Marx, Engels, or any other communist. Back in 2010, while still a Cardinal, he felt the need to do the same. Why?

    That the Pope has refused to unabashedly, unequivocally repudiate communism (and/or socialism) is doubtless one big reason that some have viewed him as a communist sympathizer. Yet there is another: His Holiness has adamantly repudiated that system commonly called “capitalism.”


    Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/attheintersectionoffaithandculture/2014/04/pope-francis-a-socialist-by-any-other-name.html#DjOuuZLmd3pMJE3O.99

  • Rick Santorum - "I think that we probably are better off leaving the science to the scientists and focusing on what we're really good at, which is theology and morality,"

    hahaha

  • Santorum is internet infamous forever.

  • Does Socialism Work? A Classroom Experiment

    November 16, 2011 by Dan Mitchell

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

    The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

    As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

    To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
    It could not be any simpler than that.

    There are five morals to this story:

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

    5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    =================================

    I’ll make one final point. There are five morals to the story, but there are dozens of nations giving us real-world examples every day.

    Sort of makes you wonder why some people still believe this nonsense?

  • Group projects in college show you that communism and socialism will not work over time. One asshole always wants to drag their feet and wait for someone else to do their part of the project.

  • I believe the Pope means well but I just can't agree with his socialist views. I think he comes at this with the view of the early church who did have a form of wealth redistribution with churches helping one another but we have to look at history at what works and what fails and socialism is a proven failure in the world wherever it is tried. That type of socialism can work in the church but it does not work in the world. I am glad to see the Pope continue to stand true to traditional marriage and opposing abortion. As for climate change it seemed like his mind was made up already when he refused to listen to any opposing views.

  • I believe the Pope means well but I just can't agree with his socialist views. I think he comes at this with the view of the early church who did have a form of wealth redistribution with churches helping one another but we have to look at history at what works and what fails and socialism is a proven failure in the world wherever it is tried. That type of socialism can work in the church but it does not work in the world. I am glad to see the Pope continue to stand true to traditional marriage and opposing abortion. As for climate change it seemed like his mind was made up already when he refused to listen to any opposing views.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I believe the Pope means well but I just can't agree with his socialist views. I think he comes at this with the view of the early church who did have a form of wealth redistribution with churches helping one another but we have to look at history at what works and what fails and socialism is a proven failure in the world wherever it is tried. That type of socialism can work in the church but it does not work in the world. I am glad to see the Pope continue to stand true to traditional marriage and opposing abortion. As for climate change it seemed like his mind was made up already when he refused to listen to any opposing views.

  • Hahaha