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F-35 get's it's ass kicked by an F-16..

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  • WalterWhite WalterWhiteW
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    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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    Agreed ^

    The OP has no idea what the fuck he's talking about

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      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144873/U-S-air-force-s-sophisticated-stealth-jet-beaten-dogfight-plane-1970s-despite-expensive-weapon-history.html

      Wish that was a joke. We've spent closing in on 500B on that thing. 500 fucking billion and it gets whooped by a plane made when the beegees were still playing. But health care for poor people yeah fuck that. Proper money spent on education...yeah fuck that too. Both liberals and conservatives should be infuriated to the point of frothing at the mouth over this but we're well aware of where conservatives stand on defense spending. I'm a straight libertarian on this, spend money on defensive systems but not feed this ridiculous military industrial complex.

      This is literally an outrage. You all better hope we don't get in a conventional scrum with the Rooskies cause frankly our planes will get roasted out of the sky if we fly into their territory. It will be a global embarrassement. We cannot deal with their air defense AND their new migs. Read that article and contemplate what the F-35 pilot had to say about it. So basically they built another vietnam era F-111 that also was touted as not having to bother with in close fighting yet got utterly shit on by shitty little mig 21's that got inside the missiles and ate it for lunch in a dogfight. They actually took the guns of the F-111's cause they were so sure it would never need them. Those new Migs though would absolutely shit on the F-35's. Shit the fuck all over them and drape a Russian flag over em when they were done.

      Maybe if we spent more on education we could produce proper aeronautical engineers again huh?

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      StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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      @clevfan4life said:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144873/U-S-air-force-s-sophisticated-stealth-jet-beaten-dogfight-plane-1970s-despite-expensive-weapon-history.html

      Wish that was a joke. We've spent closing in on 500B on that thing. 500 fucking billion and it gets whooped by a plane made when the beegees were still playing. But health care for poor people yeah fuck that. Proper money spent on education...yeah fuck that too. Both liberals and conservatives should be infuriated to the point of frothing at the mouth over this but we're well aware of where conservatives stand on defense spending. I'm a straight libertarian on this, spend money on defensive systems but not feed this ridiculous military industrial complex.

      This is literally an outrage. You all better hope we don't get in a conventional scrum with the Rooskies cause frankly our planes will get roasted out of the sky if we fly into their territory. It will be a global embarrassement. We cannot deal with their air defense AND their new migs. Read that article and contemplate what the F-35 pilot had to say about it. So basically they built another vietnam era F-111 that also was touted as not having to bother with in close fighting yet got utterly shit on by shitty little mig 21's that got inside the missiles and ate it for lunch in a dogfight. They actually took the guns of the F-111's cause they were so sure it would never need them. Those new Migs though would absolutely shit on the F-35's. Shit the fuck all over them and drape a Russian flag over em when they were done.

      Maybe if we spent more on education we could produce proper aeronautical engineers again huh?

      Ok Michael.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        Aside from the OP, and talk of money in education...

        ... I've always heard there were a shortage of engineers. Math and science isn't appealing to a lot of students. Then, in college, the work required for an engineering degree isn't very appealing. Not sure if that is true or not, but there is definitely high demand.

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        • LogicIsForSquares LogicIsForSquaresL Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          The math is pretty damn daunting. That is why I only dipped my foot into the engineering field and didn't go all the way with civil engineering. I knew the math courses would be what hung me up.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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            Yeah, the higher math wasn't my interest, wasn't my skill, either.

            I just see the attempt to push fighter development to the max

            is a tough call. I think if the engineers screw up the tires and

            lights...

            "you're fired" ! Engineers who are chronically liberal.... would probably design

            emotionally, not logically and accurately.....

            The bar gets higher and higher all the time.

            Only so many cracker jacks can go into a cracker jack box....

            without advances in technology.

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            • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

              The math is pretty damn daunting. That is why I only dipped my foot into the engineering field and didn't go all the way with civil engineering. I knew the math courses would be what hung me up.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @logicisforsquares said:

              The math is pretty damn daunting. That is why I only dipped my foot into the engineering field and didn't go all the way with civil engineering. I knew the math courses would be what hung me up.

              And an actual Math Degree would be even worse.

              Highest we went was Multi Variable Calculus and then Differential Equations. You then needed one "advanced math class". I took Matrix Algebra.

              An actual math major would be even worse. I took the honors, theoretical versions of some of these and it was rough. 4 years of that though, damn. I can respect that.

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                Not that woody brags on his education.

                nah. he never does that.

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  But health care for poor people yeah fuck that. Proper money spent on education...yeah fuck that too.

                  This is literally an outrage. You all better hope we don't get in a conventional scrum with the Rooskies cause frankly our planes will get roasted out of the sky if we fly into their territory. It will be a global embarrassement. We cannot deal with their air defense AND their new migs.

                  Maybe if we spent more on education we could produce proper aeronautical engineers again huh?

                  Good god you're an ass.

                  We would destroy Russia. Most of our advanced weaponry isn't even known to the public (hence the stealth chopper that carried the seals that took out Bin Laden) Our stealths and subs are far superior to any other country in the military world.

                  Quit hiding behind "poor people" and "education". Liberals pull that shit all the time the way conservatives do with "terrorism" and "drugs". It's fucking annoying.

                  You know how much god damn money goes to administrative cost? That money never goes to the people. It goes to some rich schmuck in a suit.

                  The bulk of the funding for "Poor people" "education" and "food stamps" comes from middle class people who work 40-70 hours a week to pay for fat lazy fucks. I wanted to punch this stupid cunt in her face at Pizza Hut who payed with an EBT card. I used hard earned cash while her fatass sat there and played with her iPhone and drove off in a nicer car than mine.

                  And yes we get it, the military industrial complex stinks. But as long as a sucker (like you) keeps voting for these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about you, nothing will change.

                  This country needs an amred revolution and repeal the income tax so I don't have to hear assholes like you go on about the government.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @walterwhite said:

                  We would destroy Russia.

                  In a "conventional" war on their turf i'm not so sure. Remember we'd flying into "their" airspace. Means our planes would have to take out their air defense network. "IF" our new plane is really that garbage than an F-16 can take it, we'd lose a lot of pilots boy. Those new Russian planes would destroy an F-16.

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    oh and it came out the other year that the Russians most likely can see our stealth shit now. They figured something out.

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                    • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

                      @clevfan4life said:

                      But health care for poor people yeah fuck that. Proper money spent on education...yeah fuck that too.

                      This is literally an outrage. You all better hope we don't get in a conventional scrum with the Rooskies cause frankly our planes will get roasted out of the sky if we fly into their territory. It will be a global embarrassement. We cannot deal with their air defense AND their new migs.

                      Maybe if we spent more on education we could produce proper aeronautical engineers again huh?

                      Good god you're an ass.

                      We would destroy Russia. Most of our advanced weaponry isn't even known to the public (hence the stealth chopper that carried the seals that took out Bin Laden) Our stealths and subs are far superior to any other country in the military world.

                      Quit hiding behind "poor people" and "education". Liberals pull that shit all the time the way conservatives do with "terrorism" and "drugs". It's fucking annoying.

                      You know how much god damn money goes to administrative cost? That money never goes to the people. It goes to some rich schmuck in a suit.

                      The bulk of the funding for "Poor people" "education" and "food stamps" comes from middle class people who work 40-70 hours a week to pay for fat lazy fucks. I wanted to punch this stupid cunt in her face at Pizza Hut who payed with an EBT card. I used hard earned cash while her fatass sat there and played with her iPhone and drove off in a nicer car than mine.

                      And yes we get it, the military industrial complex stinks. But as long as a sucker (like you) keeps voting for these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about you, nothing will change.

                      This country needs an amred revolution and repeal the income tax so I don't have to hear assholes like you go on about the government.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @walterwhite said:

                      so I don't have to hear assholes like you go on about the government.

                      So now you don't drone on and on about the govt? Are you drunk today again?

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                        oh and it came out the other year that the Russians most likely can see our stealth shit now. They figured something out.

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                        F Furious Styles wrote on last edited by Furious Styles
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        oh and it came out the other year that the Russians most likely can see our stealth s

                        hit now. They figured something out.

                        I guess Russian gear is invincible on their propaganda videos. Recently they held a massive military parade celebration attended by many world leaders. A massive display of military might. Then came the eagerly anticipated arrival of the new cutting edge next generation russian main battle tank.

                        One of them stalled out blocking the parade.

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          oh and it came out the other year that the Russians most likely can see our stealth s

                          hit now. They figured something out.

                          I guess Russian gear is invincible on their propaganda videos. Recently they held a massive military parade celebration attended by many world leaders. A massive display of military might. Then came the eagerly anticipated arrival of the new cutting edge next generation russian main battle tank.

                          One of them stalled out blocking the parade.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @furious-styles said:

                          I guess Russian gear is invincible on their propaganda videos. Recently they held a massive military parade celebration attended by many world leaders. A massive display of military might. Then came the eagerly anticipated arrival of the new cutting edge next generation russian main battle tank.

                          One of them stalled out blocking the parade.

                          oh I saw that, I was rolling. They're better at the planes for sure. Tanks not so much

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                            @furious-styles said:

                            I guess Russian gear is invincible on their propaganda videos. Recently they held a massive military parade celebration attended by many world leaders. A massive display of military might. Then came the eagerly anticipated arrival of the new cutting edge next generation russian main battle tank.

                            One of them stalled out blocking the parade.

                            oh I saw that, I was rolling. They're better at the planes for sure. Tanks not so much

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                            WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by WalterWhite
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            oh I saw that, I was rolling. They're better at the planes for sure. Tanks not so much

                            Our Stealth capabilities alone and with our new "mystery" unmanned stealth bomber we would destroy those vodka drinking assholes.

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              didn't it come out from the Snowden papers that the rooskies were on to our brand new fangled stealth shit? or wiki leaks or whatever. I'm not talking about the old F-117's either, I heard/read somewhere that the pentagon just had to go back to the drawing board recently because Russia and China had a new way to detect "specifically" stealth planes. Not some new kind of radar that would pick up everything, there was something they found that could specifically detect stealth planes. And somehow that tech was also being used to possibly pick up our best subs at any depth.

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                oh I saw that, I was rolling. They're better at the planes for sure. Tanks not so much

                                Our Stealth capabilities alone and with our new "mystery" unmanned stealth bomber we would destroy those vodka drinking assholes.

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                                @walterwhite said:

                                Our Stealth capabilities alone and with our new "mystery" unmanned stealth bomber

                                Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

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                                  @walterwhite said:

                                  Our Stealth capabilities alone and with our new "mystery" unmanned stealth bomber

                                  Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

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                                  WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

                                  You dumb fuck. You're literally going on about how more advanced the Russians are with your fucking "Moscow Clearance"

                                  I hope I see you out so I can fuck you in your gum line

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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

                                    You dumb fuck. You're literally going on about how more advanced the Russians are with your fucking "Moscow Clearance"

                                    I hope I see you out so I can fuck you in your gum line

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    @walterwhite said:

                                    You dumb fuck. You're literally going on about how more advanced the Russians are with your fucking "Moscow Clearance"

                                    I hope I see you out so I can fuck you in your gum line

                                    1) The Russians are showing off their shit at airshows all the time....those planes are astounding. Even the European pilots who had done wargames with both the Russians and the U.S conceded that the Russian planes were better than the U.S. So no top secret clearance needed.

                                    2) Seeing me out wouldn't go well for you in the slightest old man. And at least I have a gumline you dentured up old fuck.... 😁

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                                      @walterwhite said:

                                      You dumb fuck. You're literally going on about how more advanced the Russians are with your fucking "Moscow Clearance"

                                      I hope I see you out so I can fuck you in your gum line

                                      1) The Russians are showing off their shit at airshows all the time....those planes are astounding. Even the European pilots who had done wargames with both the Russians and the U.S conceded that the Russian planes were better than the U.S. So no top secret clearance needed.

                                      2) Seeing me out wouldn't go well for you in the slightest old man. And at least I have a gumline you dentured up old fuck.... 😁

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                                      WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by WalterWhite
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      1) The Russians are showing off their shit at airshows all the time....those planes are astounding. Even the European pilots who had done wargames with both the Russians and the U.S conceded that the Russian planes were better than the U.S. So no top secret clearance needed.

                                      2) Seeing me out wouldn't go well for you in the slightest old man. And at least I have a gumline you dentured up old fuck.... 😁

                                      1. Nobody is showcasing their best weaponry in a public airshow (the REAL NASTY shit at least) they keep that shit as an ace in the hole.

                                      2. I'm 28 you Retarded fuck.

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                                        @walterwhite said:

                                        Our Stealth capabilities alone and with our new "mystery" unmanned stealth bomber

                                        Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

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                                        StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        Tell us moar with your top sekret pentagon clearance.

                                        Cleve doesn't know his spellcheck is off.

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                                          WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                          Quit feeding this cunt-tard.

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