Schizophrenic cities....NFL market overlap study
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As noted in the survey thread, I had done a study a couple or so years back about cities in the US that were or could be "schizophrenic" in that geographically they were located either within the 75 mile Neilsen DMA NFL market of two different teams, or were just outside the markets of two teams, but more or less equidistant from two teams. Here are some of those results:
Cities that lie inside the 75 mile market radius of two or more NFL teams:
Youngstown Ohio....inside both Cleveland and Pittsburgh DMA (Also Sharon Pa.)
Sandusky Ohio....inside both Cleveland and Detroit DMA
Wilmington DE, Lancaster PA, York PA....each inside both Baltimore and Philly DMA
Richmond Indiana....inside both Cincinnati and Indianapolis DMA
Trenton NJ....inside both the NYC team and Philly DMAs
Note....most of the Ravens and Redskins DMA overlaps due to proximity of teams.
Also note: I did not separate any of NYC as both Jets/Giants markets coincide
The same applies for the Raiders and 49ers....at least it used to. Perhaps now things are different since the Niners are now closer to San Jose. The entire city of San Francisco now is closer to where the Raiders play than to where the Niners play.
Cities that lie just outside the DMAs of two (or more) NFL markets that could have a pull on their loyalty:
Hartford Conn.....about equidistant from the NYC team and the NE Pats
Cumberland MD....equidistant from Pittsburgh and both Balt/Wash DMA
Erie Pa.....actually equidistant from 3 teams: Bills/Browns/Steelers
Columbus, Ohio.....just outside the DMAs of both Cleveland and Cincinnati
Lima Ohio.....actually sits about equidistant from the DMA of Brown/Lions/Bengals/and Colts
Fort Wayne Ind.....about equidistant from each of Lions, Bears, Colts
Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, and Battle Creek Mich....each about equidistant from Bears/Lions DMA
(though, being in Mich...I think these cities trend toward the Lions)
Paducah KY...equidistant between St. Louis and Nashville (Titans)
Louisville KY....about equidistant between Colts and Bengals
Chattanooga TN....exactly equal between Nashville and Atlanta
Greenville SC....equidistant between Charlotte and Atlanta
Orlando FLa....roughly equidistant between Tampa and Jacksonville
(though I understand that most of Orlando is Dolphin country)
These are most of the "fairly close" equidistant cities. There are a lot of others in the country....but while they may be equidistant....the distances are pretty far...hundreds of mile possibly.
Questions:
A. Do you know of any other cities with "divided loyalties" between teams? You Texas guys can let us know about Texas perhaps.
B. Of the above cities...which of the two choices do people in those generally prefer? (or does it depend on which team is winning at the time....e.g. I generally think that Youngstown is a Browns town...but with the Browns being crappy and the Steelers being generally contenders....some there may trend toward favoring the Steelers. In other words, how much of a FRAK factor is at play in those towns?0
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Austin is mostly Cowboys as there are a ton of Mexicans here and the three items you get on the border are a UT shirt, Cowboys shirt, and Spurs shirt.
Some defected to the Texans when they were good. The Spurs are never bad. During this extended streak of UT mediocrity they've pretty much kept that stuff in the closet and not repped other schools.
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Austin is mostly Cowboys as there are a ton of Mexicans here and the three items you get on the border are a UT shirt, Cowboys shirt, and Spurs shirt.
Some defected to the Texans when they were good. The Spurs are never bad. During this extended streak of UT mediocrity they've pretty much kept that stuff in the closet and not repped other schools.
Austin is mostly Cowboys as there are a ton of Mexicans here and the three items you get on the border are a UT shirt, Cowboys shirt, and Spurs shirt.
Some defected to the Texans when they were good. The Spurs are never bad. During this extended streak of UT mediocrity they've pretty much kept that stuff in the closet and not repped other schools.
What about San Antonio? About the same as Austin?
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I assume so. But I stay out of thatMexico replica.
I thought that was where you were.
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Nope, Austin. Technically Buda since we moved last year.
I must be thinking of TexasAg1969? Is he from SA?
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Technically- Dayton is a Cincinnati market- though in practice, it isn't. I would guesstimate the "Hard Core" Bengal presence at 20%. Everything else is the worst case of FRAKS you could imagine. Bengals start losing, and it's time to hide under their rocks- and wait till the Reds play. Of course the Reds are sucking pretty bad this year too.
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Technically- Dayton is a Cincinnati market- though in practice, it isn't. I would guesstimate the "Hard Core" Bengal presence at 20%. Everything else is the worst case of FRAKS you could imagine. Bengals start losing, and it's time to hide under their rocks- and wait till the Reds play. Of course the Reds are sucking pretty bad this year too.
Technically- Dayton is a Cincinnati market- though in practice, it isn't. I would guesstimate the "Hard Core" Bengal presence at 20%. Everything else is the worst case of FRAKS you could imagine. Bengals start losing, and it's time to hide under their rocks- and wait till the Reds play. Of course the Reds are sucking pretty bad this year too.
So, Larry, who do the Daytoners FRAK for.....the current flavor of the day? Seahawks/Patriots and the like?
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Not sure. I asked him once and he didn't say.
I think he told me he was because he said when I came to SA to see my daughter that we should get together for a drink.
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I have never known one single Detroit Lions fan from Sandusky and I have spent the majority of my life here. There's an unhealthy contingent of Frontrunner Squeeler goons though. There ARE Lions fans in the Toledo area. Ex-wife's family is from there and several of them are Lions fans, but even among them there are more Browns fans and a few that root for both teams. I have noticed an increase in Tigers fans the last few years in these parts. More frontrunner losers with no loyalty.
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I have never known one single Detroit Lions fan from Sandusky and I have spent the majority of my life here. There's an unhealthy contingent of Frontrunner Squeeler goons though. There ARE Lions fans in the Toledo area. Ex-wife's family is from there and several of them are Lions fans, but even among them there are more Browns fans and a few that root for both teams. I have noticed an increase in Tigers fans the last few years in these parts. More frontrunner losers with no loyalty.
I have never known one single Detroit Lions fan from Sandusky and I have spent the majority of my life here. There's an unhealthy contingent of Frontrunner Squeeler goons though. There ARE Lions fans in the Toledo area. Ex-wife's family is from there and several of them are Lions fans, but even among them there are more Browns fans and a few that root for both teams. I have noticed an increase in Tigers fans the last few years in these parts. More frontrunner losers with no loyalty.
It has always been my impression that Sandusky was a Browns town....despite being equally close to Detroit.
The lack of championships for both the Browns and the Lions opens the door for the FRAKfuckers to walk through....and give those types lack of loyalty/loser mentality....they invariably do walk through that door.
If the Lions or Browns had been suckass and the Steelers suckasses as well, then they would be fans of other teams.
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Here is what looks to be a highly entertaining Football fan chart. Among other things it says that anyone that is not a football fan should root for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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So....from what I have been able to trace from the above chart Browns fans:
A. Drink whatever beer they can get their hands on to drown their sorrows.
B. Often cry for no apparent reason
C. Do NOT like Country Music
D. Do NOT like Facial Hair
E. Choose Invisibility as their Superpower
F. Like Football.
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Typical Steeler fan:
A. Brings their own towel when they take a leak
B. Like watching History Channel
C. Describe their fashion style as normal
D. Choose something other than Flying or Invisibility as their Super Power
E. Like Football
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Bengals fans:
1. Like Stripes
2. Call their fashion style as vibrant
3. Choose something other than flying or invisibility as their super power
4. Like Football
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Ravens fans:
A. Do not believe that their anger issues, which they do have, came from losing at the game of life.
B. Have heard of soccer
C. Like football.
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By the way, per this chart....Buffalo Bills fans are exactly like Browns fans....except they insist on drinking Labatt Blue to drown their sorrows.
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Not sure. I asked him once and he didn't say.
I think he told me he was because he said when I came to SA to see my daughter that we should get together for a drink.
I think he told me he was because he said when I came to SA to see my daughter that we should get together for a drink.
Well I said that too.
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