Victorious Secrets

Unsympathetic

War: The rest of the team would NOT be in place if we had attempted to get a "top" WR.

In each case, the team could have drafted other components to complete the team before the WR:

Counterexample #1: The St Louis Rams. How many recent picks have they spent on WR the last 4 years? As a whole, their WR group is no better than ours. [2013 rd 1,3 2012 rd 2,4 2011 rd 3,4]

Counterexample #2: The Atlanta Falcons. Julio and Matty and Roddy White.. and a whole lot of nothing. What has made them potentially useful at DL? Drafting Beasley in the first this year. None of their OL, LB, or DB would make the Browns bench, let alone start. How many playoff games have they won? One, the 1/13 2013 first-round squeaker over the Seahawks.. and that's IT. 4-12 last year, 6-10 the year before, 1-3 in the playoffs with those 3 as the core.

Counterexample #3: Cordarrelle Patterson: All-Pro or barely average #2?

Counterexample #4: Michael Floyd for the Cardinals: First-round pick, but he isn't even guaranteed a starting spot in 2015 ..because John Brown, who they picked in the 3rd, is outperforming him.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@wargograw said:
The rest of the team is pretty much in place, unsympathetic. Need a QB and a good big receiver. And we don't really NEED either as we could make the playoffs this year with neither. But those are really the last two pieces.

His name is Terrelle Pryor.

Mudfly

Great stuff, as usual, Flugel....and Id agree were looking pretty solid across most of the board....and for me, that would include wr..

The point about the kicker is key.....we have no idea what they have and kicker is a really important element to any successful team. I gotta place some hope that they feel they've upgraded K, simply due to the fact that they have dumped 2 veterans already....tho it is a major concern to me. Too often the game comes down to making a single kick.....so lets hope we have a guy to get er done...

And QB, of course, is the other issue......McCown and/or Johnny need to be much better than they were last year.....so, we are really banking on "someone" suddenly improving enough to run this team well.....and then hoping that person stays healthy, because if he gets hurt, then we must rely on the second guy suddenly improving enough to run this team well.....(longer odds for 2 guys to suddenly get better, right?)

So, Im very hopeful McCown rediscovers that year he had in Chicago and has a solid season and stays healthy.....

And I still have a flicker of hope that JM flourishes and brings his game up to a respectable level....

But, in the end.....even with all the depth......these 2 positions are really iffy.....and really important......

Washington cant come fast enough for me.....

wargograw

You missed my point, unsympathetic. You said:

Objective reality: WR contribution is only meaningful AFTER the rest of the team is in place.

I told you that the rest of the team IS in place.

Captain Cheesedick

It's the late July Browns fan!

Frenchie

I know it's July. But I was reading a magazine that had the Browns starters and back-ups and I'm telling you we haven't had that kind of quality in the new era. If not this year, I expect us to be a playoff team in 2016.

The Gipper

The Soldier said:
It's the late July Browns fan!

And we recognize your attempt to be relevant.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

The Soldier said:

It's the late July Browns fan!

At least there are Browns fans in late July.

Steeler fans don't normally admit to being Steeler fans until Week 10 or 12, once the Steelers have established a winning record and the fans can toot their horns.

Kvoethe

Great name for my wife's fantasy team. Great post!

Riffer X

@the-gipper said:

And we recognize your attempt to be relevant.

Some fans actually follow the roster and stuff. It is amazing how that works.