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D-Line: Where 2 Deep Isn't Too Deep

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #18

    well can shelton beat out phil? remember when phil was healthy last on the thursday night game at cincy? we looked pretty good on the dline with him playing LDE and rubin at NT. when those guys are healthy they are good.

  • well can shelton beat out phil? remember when phil was healthy last on the thursday night game at cincy? we looked pretty good on the dline with him playing LDE and rubin at NT. when those guys are healthy they are good.

    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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    @miktoxic said:

    well can shelton beat out phil? remember when phil was healthy last on the thursday night game at cincy? we looked pretty good on the dline with him playing LDE and rubin at NT. when those guys are healthy they are good.

    I remember Phil being completely miscast as a 34 DE kind of like Corey Williams was when Phillip traded for him.

    His ass is on the line this year. It is put up or shut up, and will come down to camp performance. As it should be.

  • XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Phil Taylor is a prime cut candidate

    His contract is fully guaranteed this year, so that makes no sense unless you don't think he is good enough to make the team outright.

    Zombo

    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo said:

    His contract is fully guaranteed this year, so that makes no sense unless you don't think he is good enough to make the team outright.

    Zombo

    He has to make the team outright, but it isn't a given. They will eat his contract because they can afford to and have the room.

    This is what competition is all about under Pett and his staff.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    Well lets hope Phil shows up ready to compete this year......he was the "only" one to fail the conditioning test last year and, now, he has some serious competition ahead if he wants to keep his job....

    I definitely dont see the Browns eating his contract though.....Phil has trade value, so if they feel he wont make the roster, I see him being traded for whatever we can get.....(but I really expect him to make the team and play well, as long as he stays healthy)

  • Well lets hope Phil shows up ready to compete this year......he was the "only" one to fail the conditioning test last year and, now, he has some serious competition ahead if he wants to keep his job....

    I definitely dont see the Browns eating his contract though.....Phil has trade value, so if they feel he wont make the roster, I see him being traded for whatever we can get.....(but I really expect him to make the team and play well, as long as he stays healthy)

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Well lets hope Phil shows up ready to compete this year......he was the "only" one to fail the conditioning test last year and, now, he has some serious competition ahead if he wants to keep his job....

    I definitely dont see the Browns eating his contract though.....Phil has trade value, so if they feel he wont make the roster, I see him being traded for whatever we can get.....(but I really expect him to make the team and play well, as long as he stays healthy)

    Does he now?

  • Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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    Here is a really good site on salary cap implications http://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns/ .

    Phillip is sitting pretty and our new Gerard Warren apparently. His salary is at $5,477,000. If he is cut, it all goes to dead money and we get nothing gained toward the cap.

    He will have to be Jabba the Hut in order for them to cut him. I still think he should be motivated though. Drafting Shelton is almost a direct smack in the nads to him I would think. Sure, they let Rubin walk, but drafting Shelton pretty much says "we don't trust you Phillip".

    If he is in shape and has his game face on, Shelton and he could make a devastating pair in 43 sets and they could also spell each other in 34 rotations. Taylor is probably best playing no more than 60% of the snaps anyway to be effective. For Christ sake leave him off of 34 DE though, that was a bad experiment right there. Can't be a turtle and play 34 DE. No way, no how.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    There are considerations other than "the cap" involved in trades...

  • @mudfly said:

    Well lets hope Phil shows up ready to compete this year......he was the "only" one to fail the conditioning test last year and, now, he has some serious competition ahead if he wants to keep his job....

    I definitely dont see the Browns eating his contract though.....Phil has trade value, so if they feel he wont make the roster, I see him being traded for whatever we can get.....(but I really expect him to make the team and play well, as long as he stays healthy)

    Does he now?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Does he now?

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Personally hoping he sticks and returns to form.....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Does he now?

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Personally hoping he sticks and returns to form.....

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Personally hoping he sticks and returns to form.....

    That would also include absorbing his salary in a trade.

    Still of the belief he has trade value?

  • @mudfly said:

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Personally hoping he sticks and returns to form.....

    That would also include absorbing his salary in a trade.

    Still of the belief he has trade value?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    That would also include absorbing his salary in a trade.

    Still of the belief he has trade value?

    Yep....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    That would also include absorbing his salary in a trade.

    Still of the belief he has trade value?

    Yep....

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Yep....

    Then God bless because you're an eternal optimist.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Does he now?

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Personally hoping he sticks and returns to form.....

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Id think so.....maybe not much, but gotta think there are a number of teams that would want him and might give us something....(as opposed to just cutting him).....maybe not.....

    Yeah....Im over the top with it....Maybe - maybe not = eternal optimist?.....ok.... 😳

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #30

    The DL isn't the only place where 2 deep isn't too deep.

  • FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Can't wait to see our rotations on the dline next Sunday. Looks like Meder was the pleasant surprise of training camp nobody saw coming.