BREAKING: Joey Bosa's 5 star little brother just committed to OSU
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The commitment of 5-star Nick Bosa will push Ohio State past LSU into the No. 1 spot of the 2016 recruiting rankings http://www.scout.com/college/ohio-state/story/1566123-bosa-commits-to-ohio-state …
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Michigan, LOL.
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That's a very good get. Crazy genes in that family.
Recruiting rankings mean very little until after signing day, though OSU will be up there no matter what.
The #1 prospect in the country, a DT, has a good chance of picking Michigan, FYI. I think it is seen as Bama and Michigan 50/50 right now.
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That's a very good get. Crazy genes in that family.
Recruiting rankings mean very little until after signing day, though OSU will be up there no matter what.
The #1 prospect in the country, a DT, has a good chance of picking Michigan, FYI. I think it is seen as Bama and Michigan 50/50 right now.
That's a very good get. Crazy genes in that family.
Except that the father and uncle, both of whom had shots at the NFL, basically busted We shall see about the "Next Generation".
Recruiting rankings mean very little until after signing day, though OSU will be up there no matter what.
They mean very little until like sophomore or junior year. Though it is nice to think they would do well.
The #1 prospect in the country, a DT, has a good chance of picking Michigan, FYI. I think it is seen as Bama and Michigan 50/50 right now.
Why would you not post whom you are speaking of and give us a bit of a scouting report? At least a link.
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Ha, sorry. Rashan Gary
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Ha, sorry. Rashan Gary
So, tell us about him. I don't follow the recruiting trail that much.
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Ha that was pretty good.
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OK, I see some of those reports that also have Alabama and Auburn high on his list....but also, guess who is still in the running....THE Ohio State University.
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Current crystal ball prediction have Michigan at 49%, Bama at 34%, and then other teams.
He visited Michigan, OSU, a handful of SEC schools, etc. He's planning on visiting Michigan again as well.
Nothing is set in stone obviously, but Michigan is the slight favorite at this point. I have also not heard much about OSU. They may technically be "in the running" still though. Idk.
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Current crystal ball prediction have Michigan at 49%, Bama at 34%, and then other teams.
He visited Michigan, OSU, a handful of SEC schools, etc. He's planning on visiting Michigan again as well.
Nothing is set in stone obviously, but Michigan is the slight favorite at this point. I have also not heard much about OSU. They may technically be "in the running" still though. Idk.
Current crystal ball prediction have Michigan at 49%, Bama at 34%, and then other teams.
He visited Michigan, OSU, a handful of SEC schools, etc. He's planning on visiting Michigan again as well.
Nothing is set in stone obviously, but Michigan is the slight favorite at this point. I have also not heard much about OSU. They may technically be "in the running" still though. Idk.
wtfe
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A DT would be an idiot to choose Mi-, well pretty much any school, over Alabama. Unless they just really don't want to play in a 3-4.
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I will assume you don't mean that recruiting rankings don't matter generally, Woody. But yes they don't matter throughout the course of the recruitment of an individual class.
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Well, if you want to know what I said, read my post...
Individual rankings "matter". A 5* is more likely to be great than a 3* buy nothing is set in stone.
Class rankings matter less though. You get a lot of points for quantity, as well as quality. That allows teams that oversign a boost.
And why would a player be dumb to choose any school over bama?
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Joey has a shot at #1 overall draft pick, I believe he bolts for the NFL if that is the case.
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Oversigning makes your team better though, whether you're on board with it or not. I believe every single national champion in the recruiting websites era (ca. 2000) has averaged a top 8 class in the 4 years prior to winning the championship. So yeah, the team rankings matter. That Ohio State fans have figured this out and I will take your post, as an average Michigan fan, to mean Michigan fans haven't. If that's the case, then your problems start there.
I didn't say player. I said DT. They put defenders in the draft. At DT in particular: Chapman, Dareus, Deadrick, Dial, Square, Williams. At DE (since they run a 3-4): Dickson, Gilberry, Pagan, Stinson. That's to say nothing of the three starting defensive linemen they return this year, with one predicted to go top 10. For comparison, Michigan has a whopping 3 DL in the NFL, none of which played under Harbaugh. Stanford has 5 DL in the league but I don't care enough to see how many played during Harbaugh's tenure. We're also talking about a team that hasn't lost more than 2 regular season games since 2010 and is in the national championship hunt every single year. Kids want to get drafted and they want to get rings. Don't be stubborn. What's Harbaugh's sell? Playing time? OK, granted, but that's about all there is.
I will also wager to you that Saban doesn't lose this particular recruiting battle, provided another DT doesn't commit first.
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You have the reading comprehension of someone from Texas too I guess.
Saban would be dumb to take another DT, as this is the number 1 player in the country.
I just told you class rankings matter. I just said they don't matter as much as some think. This is due to high rankings just because you have a huge class.
Oversigning does make your team better, but it is unfair to the kids some coaches (like Saban) claim to support. It causes offers being pulled, forces medical hardships, forces greyshirts, etc. None of which is explicitly illegal in cfb, but it's all shady and not very ethical.
I'm not surprised the newly minted SEC fan has adapted the "win at all costs" mentality though.
Bama puts a lot of players in the league, a lot of busts too.
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Don't deteriorate to the lame ethical argument we've already hashed out extensively. I'm going to skip that part. I was just saying that quantity matters and that's why it's factored into the rankings. Your signing class is no less likely to help you to win because you did something unethical.
True, he would be dumb to take someone else. So I guess I'll rephrase: Saban will get him. The guy recruits a cut above.
Of course there are busts. They have 17 5 stars on campus and probably 40 4 stars. Yeah, some guys aren't going to start/pan out. Since throughout your whole post you did not address what Michigan's selling point here is, I'll assume it's that (the bust thing). Just know Saban would make mincemeat of that selling point.
You know my first post had no aggression whatsoever and yet you went and got butthurt about it. Not really sure what your problem is. But now I know to dismiss your next "woe is me everyone on the board attacks me" post.
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Aggression? Where? Because I made a comment related to you not reading my first post correctly? Settle down now.
Of course you're going to skip the ethical part, you're an "SEC fan".
Of course quantity matters. But a team that's actually going to not oversign, and take 14 4* and 5* could be lower than a team that oversigned out the ass with 31 4* and 3*.
We'll see if he gets him. He doesn't get every recruit he wants... But yes, those bagmen down south can be mighty persuasive. We can go into the blatant paying of recruits later.
I meant busts in the NFL. Of which Bama has had more than their fair share.
The selling point? I guess Harbaugh and his staff vs Saban and his, which is mainly a comfort level thing. Getting a Michigan degree and education (a very valuable thing, which i gave experience with, since not all players play professionally). Probably playing time. Being part of the resurgence of one of the most storied programs in college. Playing in front of 115,000 people. The college town of Ann Arbor. Not being treated like an expendable piece of meat.
Junk like that.
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Well let's see, you insulted my SEC fandom, my school, and the fact that I'm from Texan. I guess that's that ole Michigan class shining through.
No, I'm going to skip past it because we've talked about it as nauseum.
And the team with 31 signees is more likely to win (provided there is a good amount of 4 stars in there). Therefore they're ranked higher as the rankings are supposed to reflect the class's ability to win.
No, he doesn't get every recruit he wants but he loses them because other schools pay the kid and have great recruiters. You guys planning on doing that? Didn't think so. Now, maybe him being from Jersey will help you out, but good players get poached from the north all the time.
That's true they have plenty of NFL busts. I'm sure it's not much more than anyone else though.
Bama loses all three of their DL this year IIRC. Saban has never shown any aversion to starting true freshmen, even on the DL. Nose guard A'Shawn Robinson started in 2013 as a true fish out of little old Texas.
Didn't see anything about winning championships in there, and again, that's what matters to these kids. You also have average women and a terrible party scene, no offense. Also, Nick Saban and Alabama fans generally are laughing at the "storiedness" of your program. So that point cancels out too. Academics is the most overrated recruiting selling point out there. These kids could not give less of a hell. LSU signs a top 5 class just about every year and it is literally a tier 3 institution. And Alabama academics, while being no Michigan, are better than most think.
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