The unofficial...Off-season....LB thread
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... and then there's "Bloodbath"...
Browns' Mingo battling 'Bloodbath' for starting job
Two years removed from becoming the sixth overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, Barkevious Mingo is fighting for a starting job in Cleveland.
Browns defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil said as much on Thursday, talking up the play of Scott Solomon, a from-the-wilderness outside linebacker who has turned heads this offseason.
"Scott is very quickly becoming one of my favorite players," O'Neil said Thursday, per the Akron Beacon Journal. "The offense calls him 'Bloodbath.' He's like a heat-seeking missile coming off the edge."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000497979/article/browns-mingo-battling-bloodbath-for-starting-job
Better, if less sensational article here: http://www.scout.com/nfl/browns/story/1556454-o-neil-barkevious-mingo-will-have-to-compete
O'Neil: Barkevious Mingo will Have to Compete
O’Neil was asked if he’s down on Mingo. “No, not at all,” he said. “He’s done a great job. I think where Mingo has really taken a step this year is he’s been able to participate in all of the passing stuff, all of the 7-on–7 drills with the red shirt on – I’m sure you guys have seen him out there.
“Coming out of LSU, he had no experience with that stuff,” he said. “Right now, he’s by far our best linebacker in coverage, our best outside backer. Now, we’re going to see where he is when we get back to training camp and the pads come on of how he is at outside backer setting the edge, how he is as a defensive end rushing the quarterback and that kind of stuff.
“Scott is very quickly becoming one of my favorite players on the defense,” O’Neil said. “He embodies everything we talk about when we say ‘Play Like a Brown.’
“We talk about aiming point, hand placement, his ability to set the edge in the run game. He’s very good at it. His ability to wreck a running play, versus a down kick-out block, an aggressive block coming at him, whether it’s a pulling guard, a fullback. It’s going to be a car accident when Scott Solomon meets a pulling guard or a fullback." -
Light a fire under Mingo's ass. Good. Now, the question is: is he dry kindling that will spark, or is he wet, green wood that will just smolder a little before dying out.
(Please rank my analogies on a scale of 1-10)
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Ok.....here are a couple LB interviews from this weeks camp....Mingo and....Bloodbath.....
Bloodbath first.....
and Mingo here....
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Interview with OLB Coach, Brian Fleury.
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Hmm.....story here says that the Saints are releasing Junior Galette.....hybrid edge rusher....22 sacks the last 2 years.....
That is a bit tempting.....
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13313271/new-orleans-saints-release-linebacker-junior-galette
The New Orleans Saints are getting rid of their best pass rusher.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that the Saints will release Junior Galette, according to a source informed of the situation Friday. Galette recorded 22 sacks over the last two seasons, and was handed a four-year extension worth $41.3 million in September of last year. He received $17.95 million in the last year alone.
Galette recently met with NFL officials, according to Rapoport. The league is looking into two off-the-field incidents by Galette and the Saints have grown increasingly frustrated with him. Galette was arrested on domestic violence and simple battery charges in January; the charges were eventually dropped. Galette was also dealing with a torn pectoral muscle this offseason. Doctors were split regarding whether Galette required surgery.
In a conversation with Evan Woodbery of The Times-Picayune, Galette called the move "the worst call they've ever made. It was a terrible call to kick me when I'm down.
"Everything is Sean's call. He told me that himself. He's the one who pulls the trigger. ... The business is the business, you know? ... Like Vito Corleone said, 'Watch for the traitors.'"
This will prove be another costly contractual mistake by general manager Mickey Loomis. The Saints literally couldn't cut Galette before June 1 because of salary cap implications. Now he will cost $5.25 million on this year's cap, and the team will push $12.1 million in "dead money" into the future. That's how NFL teams get into salarycap trouble, and stay there.
Galette was a hybrid outside linebacker and defensive end that was an excellent speed pass-rusher on a team devoid of players that can win one-on-one matchups. Cameron Jordan is a fine defensive end, but is not a pure edge rusher. Anthony Spencer was playing ahead of Galette in offseason practices. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan will have to create a pass rush with blitzing.
Early last season, Galette insisted to the media that the 2014 crop of Saints defenders were more talented than the group that won the Super Bowl after the 2009 season. Now Galette will be remembered as the face of an underachieving, inconsistent defense that has helped to squander some of Drew Brees' prime.
He will also be remembered as a big contract mistake by Loomis. Both Galette and Jimmy Graham signed monster extensions last year. Both are no longer with a team that is clearly in transition.
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Would this be a good acquisition?
22 sacks over the past 2 years.
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Not really. Unless the Brownies feel he'd overtake Kruger, push Monty off the roster and would restructure his contract.
Plus the injury thing.
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He was released for a reason. Big red flags.
He was released for being a woman beater. If you are willing to deal with that, you pick him up.
I am giving 50/50 odds that the Cowboys pick him up.
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He was released for being a woman beater. If you are willing to deal with that, you pick him up.
I am giving 50/50 odds that the Cowboys pick him up.
Or steelers. But not Browns, doesn't fit the 'play like a brown' philosophy. Farmer has already got two strikes with off the field issues, gilbert and manziel.
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Got enough problems of are own with suspended players and GM's(Last 3 seasons with Gordon and Haden and Farmer). Really don't need to start bringing them in either IMO. Sean Peyton knows he can't save a damn good NFL talent if the player just don't get it. He's a loose cannon off the field and hope he sits a year to clean his head . Can it all get taken away from players like this? Needs to start somewhere,(thought Rice was it) But this is the NFL?
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Got enough problems of are own with suspended players and GM's(Last 3 seasons with Gordon and Haden and Farmer). Really don't need to start bringing them in either IMO. Sean Peyton knows he can't save a damn good NFL talent if the player just don't get it. He's a loose cannon off the field and hope he sits a year to clean his head . Can it all get taken away from players like this? Needs to start somewhere,(thought Rice was it) But this is the NFL?
Got enough problems of are own with suspended players and GM's(Last 3 seasons with Gordon and Haden and Farmer). Really don't need to start bringing them in either IMO. Sean Peyton knows he can't save a damn good NFL talent if the player just don't get it. He's a loose cannon off the field and hope he sits a year to clean his head . Can it all get taken away from players like this? Needs to start somewhere,(thought Rice was it) But this is the NFL?
I wouldn't compare this to Rice at all.
Rice punched his wife in the face in an elevator out of nowhere.
Galette was in a full on brawl with at least 8 people, a few of which happened to be women. Should he have handled himself differently? Sure. But I wouldn't call this guy a woman beater by any stretch.
I mean, he's not Jim Brown or anything.
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Couch pull out. No way am comparing this to Rice. I hope Rice never see's the field again and maybe these other F's will figure it out, It can be all taken away. "Here millions for your talents. Respect your Franchise. No Drugs. Oh yea Stay out of the police blotter and area's that may put you in it" and at the same time as a man don't get pussified. Now good luck to ya.. Crazy but for Millions$$ just throw water bottles and miss I guess??
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Why bother signing him?
My guess is: Someone's going to take a "chance" on him.. and in under 2 months he'll be in another incident. If not, good for him - but he is just another kid whose money has gone to his head.
Saints wanted him gone - he has zero ability to hold the point of attack in the run game and makes up for that with even less ability to cover or tackle in space.
He's a one-trick pony. Unfortunately, that trick appears to be punching women.
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Why bother signing him?
My guess is: Someone's going to take a "chance" on him.. and in under 2 months he'll be in another incident. If not, good for him - but he is just another kid whose money has gone to his head.
Saints wanted him gone - he has zero ability to hold the point of attack in the run game and makes up for that with even less ability to cover or tackle in space.
He's a one-trick pony. Unfortunately, that trick appears to be punching women.
He's a one-trick pony. Unfortunately, that trick appears to be punching women.
I was in the movie One Trick Pony. No women punched in that that I can recall.
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Sounds like Scott Solomon is really doing well.....and now is taking some 1st team reps......
So, the early speculation(and reps) have Kruger and Orchard as our pass rushers and Solomon spelling Orchard to stuff the run......
Which doesnt really bode well for Mingo......
And A. Bryant still hasn't played as an OLB.....or worked with that group.....so, Im thinking IF he plays any LB, it will be in a very limited role......all reps have been on the DL to this point....
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So still no 3-down LB? *Sigh*
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