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First GOP debate Thurs in LIVE IN CLEVELAND

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @mld-woody said:

    But is Trump's recent success a good thing for the GOP?

    If the whole thing is going to be a joke (this applies to both ends of the political turd), it should at least be a funny one. Idiocracy is on the way!

    @logicisforsquares said:

    If the whole thing is going to be a joke (this applies to both ends of the political turd), it should at least be a funny one. Idiocracy is on the way!

    Preach.

    Both parties are a joke, so at least make it entertaining and worth watching. I certainly won't be tuning in expecting to

    hear candidates discuss serious ideas and policy. Nothing more than the usual platitudes---red meat to the base.

    At least Trump will make it entertaining. And maybe, just maybe, he'll be able to yank some of the other candidates from

    their snoozefest of talking points into some actual back and forth and exchange of ideas. And if not, he'll hopefully throw

    a grenade into the room and make it interesting.

  • I'm all for Trump throwing a grenade into the room and watching other candidates duck and hide.

    "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee
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  • I agree with liking Trump for how has says things, and how he is campaigning. Straight talker, not pandering to billionaires (cuz he has the money), etc. But I can't agree with everything he says. I think that's where the difference in opinion comes from.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Mark Cuban on Trump:

    "I don't care what his actual positions are," Cuban wrote. "I don't care if he says the wrong thing. He says what's on his mind. He gives honest answers rather than prepared answers. This is more important than anything any candidate has done in years."

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/

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  • StinkHoleS StinkHole

    Mark Cuban on Trump:

    "I don't care what his actual positions are," Cuban wrote. "I don't care if he says the wrong thing. He says what's on his mind. He gives honest answers rather than prepared answers. This is more important than anything any candidate has done in years."

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/

    Stuart said:

    Mark Cuban on Trump:"I don't care what his actual positions are," Cuban wrote. "I don't care if he says the wrong thing. He says what's on his mind. He gives honest answers rather than prepared answers. This is more important than anything any candidate has done in years."http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/

    Yes indeed. Yes not bought and paid for like Scott Walker. K-sick, Christie, & Hilary.

    He may fall on his face in the "debate" tonight, but he is 100% real.

    Karlis Missed

  • I always expect bullshit and plenty of it in any political debate. I have not been disappointed yet.

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  • I'm looking forward to this one. Hope Trump eats them alive.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • My first problem with Trump is Bill Clinton apparently encouraging him to run for president a few months ago. What is up with that? Bill certainly did not want him to run as a democrat. Now Trump is not saying if he won't run as a third party if he doesn't win the GOP nomination. If he did run third party would that throw the election to Hillary? probably.

    Also some of the big claims Trump is making he will not or cannot be specific how he will do it. He says he will make Mexico pay for a wall on the border. He was asked by FOX Bill O'reilly how he would make Mexico pay and he said simple and then did not answer the question even though O'reilly asked him about three times...

    I like Trump exposing the mealy mouthed republican politicians but the devil will be in the details of the promises he is making.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    My first problem with Trump is Bill Clinton apparently encouraging him to run for president a few months ago. What is up with that? Bill certainly did not want him to run as a democrat. Now Trump is not saying if he won't run as a third party if he doesn't win the GOP nomination. If he did run third party would that throw the election to Hillary? probably.

    Also some of the big claims Trump is making he will not or cannot be specific how he will do it. He says he will make Mexico pay for a wall on the border. He was asked by FOX Bill O'reilly how he would make Mexico pay and he said simple and then did not answer the question even though O'reilly asked him about three times...

    I like Trump exposing the mealy mouthed republican politicians but the devil will be in the details of the promises he is making.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    My first problem with Trump is Bill Clinton apparently encouraging him to run for president a few months ago. What is up with that? Bill certainly did not want him to run as a democrat. Now Trump is not saying if he won't run as a third party if he doesn't win the GOP nomination. If he did run third party would that throw the election to Hillary? probably.

    Also some of the big claims Trump is making he will not or cannot be specific how he will do it. He says he will make Mexico pay for a wall on the border. He was asked by FOX Bill O'reilly how he would make Mexico pay and he said simple and then did not answer the question even though O'reilly asked him about three times...

    I like Trump exposing the mealy mouthed republican politicians but the devil will be in the details of the promises he is making.

    Details didn't hamper Obama too much did they?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply

  • He also has a plan to end ISIS. He's keeping it a secret though

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • T The Cysko Kid

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    My first problem with Trump is Bill Clinton apparently encouraging him to run for president a few months ago. What is up with that? Bill certainly did not want him to run as a democrat. Now Trump is not saying if he won't run as a third party if he doesn't win the GOP nomination. If he did run third party would that throw the election to Hillary? probably.

    Also some of the big claims Trump is making he will not or cannot be specific how he will do it. He says he will make Mexico pay for a wall on the border. He was asked by FOX Bill O'reilly how he would make Mexico pay and he said simple and then did not answer the question even though O'reilly asked him about three times...

    I like Trump exposing the mealy mouthed republican politicians but the devil will be in the details of the promises he is making.

    Details didn't hamper Obama too much did they?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Details didn't hamper Obama too much did they?

    And look what we got. Obama not just makes promises he knowingly lies when making the promises such as he did to get Obamacare passed.

    A candidate should have to explain how they will accomplish the promises they are making. Just saying because "I said so" is not enough.

  • I trust Trump more the the other chumps....

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Trump saying he avoids tax - though not a surprise - will further alienate about 40% fof the vote. He'd better be pretty damn on point on the rest of the topics if he wants to win and I don't think he will unite the swing voters enough.

    He could win the candidacy, but if the core decide he's too loud mouthed and a liability, he has no chance..

    Fwiw, if you think Obama has damaged the US reputation around the civilised world (he hasn't) then wait til trump has a go.

    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply

  • Dream on, Chris. Everybody tries to pay as little tax as possible.

    Is England "bizarro world"...or is it just you ? 😎

  • C calfoxwc

    Dream on, Chris. Everybody tries to pay as little tax as possible.

    Is England "bizarro world"...or is it just you ? 😎

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dream on, Chris. Everybody tries to pay as little tax as possible.

    Is England "bizarro world"...or is it just you ? 😎

    I wouldn't say everybody does that, in fact a lot of people pay the full amount. But plenty do, or would if they had enough money for it to make a difference.

    LogicIsForSquaresL 1 Reply

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Trump saying he avoids tax - though not a surprise - will further alienate about 40% fof the vote. He'd better be pretty damn on point on the rest of the topics if he wants to win and I don't think he will unite the swing voters enough.

    He could win the candidacy, but if the core decide he's too loud mouthed and a liability, he has no chance..

    Fwiw, if you think Obama has damaged the US reputation around the civilised world (he hasn't) then wait til trump has a go.

    @gftchris said:

    Trump saying he avoids tax - though not a surprise - will further alienate about 40% fof the vote. He'd better be pretty damn on point on the rest of the topics if he wants to win and I don't think he will unite the swing voters enough.

    He could win the candidacy, but if the core decide he's too loud mouthed and a liability, he has no chance..

    Fwiw, if you think Obama has damaged the US reputation around the civilised world (he hasn't) then wait til trump has a go.

    WTF do you know? Your a fucking Brit.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Exactly. You probably don't even think Obama is the anti-Christ

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dream on, Chris. Everybody tries to pay as little tax as possible.

    Is England "bizarro world"...or is it just you ? 😎

    I wouldn't say everybody does that, in fact a lot of people pay the full amount. But plenty do, or would if they had enough money for it to make a difference.

    @gftchris said:

    I wouldn't say everybody does that, in fact a lot of people pay the full amount. But plenty do, or would if they had enough money for it to make a difference.

    Do you make an effort to pay more for everything you pay for? I know I don't. If I can have more in my pocket, I will do so.

  • Democrats elected Obama with no experience. No qualifications. No details on his pie in the sky plans and then they have him a nobel leave prize for being partially black. Then they elecred him again and now they want you to believe he's a historically great president and now suddenly trump has to have things like experience and qualifications and details?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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