DA price tag = Day 2 pick?
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If we're THAT in love with an erratic QB - Kyle Boller is available at humble prices unless he's a Jet already.
Good lord you got me spitting up on that one Flugsy, that was some funny shit.
Very good post, one of your best. You pointed out so many things in here I can't begin to expound on them all, but let me go back to one I've been harping on for awhile now: DA is a very impressive player in the practice environment, but we've already seen what he does come game time.
It's time to see the Queen for those same amount of games we were forced to watch the Serial Drive Killer.
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If we're THAT in love with an erratic QB - Kyle Boller is available at humble prices unless he's a Jet already.
Good lord you got me spitting up on that one Flugsy, that was some funny shit.
Very good post, one of your best. You pointed out so many things in here I can't begin to expound on them all, but let me go back to one I've been harping on for awhile now: DA is a very impressive player in the practice environment, but we've already seen what he does come game time.
It's time to see the Queen for those same amount of games we were forced to watch the Serial Drive Killer.
Good lord you got me spitting up on that one Flugsy, that was some funny shit.
Very good post, one of your best. You pointed out so many things in here I can't begin to expound on them all, but let me go back to one I've been harping on for awhile now: DA is a very impressive player in the practice environment, but we've already seen what he does come game time.
It's time to see the Queen for those same amount of games we were forced to watch the Serial Drive Killer.
LOL! I hear ya. 31 other teams are telling us: "we don't want passing game by Dr Kevorkian but it sure looks good on you Cleveland. Thanks for volunteering again!" Look on the bright side, we're drafting right near the Detroit Lions for the umpteenth time. Maybe if we give DA another chance we can draft AHEAD of Detroit next year. Why progress from the first Trent Doofus when you don't have to right???
I'm reading ALOT of intelligent people trying to wishful think Dumb Ass into something he's not. He reads coverages the way I'd expect Ronnie Milsap to read coverages. How many more times do you need to see a spade before you call it a spade? If there's STILL some waiting for a Kurt Warner story to emerge - good luck with that!
And Riff, that new logo of Loverboy gettin naughty is FREAKIN hilarious!!! One of your alltime bests! While we're in the spirit: Do you know what's more limpwristed than roses on a piano? Lummy plantin his two lips on DA's organ.
- Tom F. (Roberta Flack should sing the theme song to our 2008 season in review video: "Killing me Softly")
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So you would wash 5 million because its in the "past".... really. You would go ahead and bet the bank on a kid with 3 games when you have another similar age qb who did win 10 games in a season..... I like how people talk about 5 million like it does not matter anymore moving forward when the qb position between bq and da is well within normal budget for that position.
As for Stallworth if I were forced to pay him and could not get equal value for the amount I had to pay out I would definately keep him. He is not toxic to the team in the locker room and does have talent and potential.
So you would wash 5 million because its in the "past".... really. You would go ahead and bet the bank on a kid with 3 games when you have another similar age qb who did win 10 games in a season..... I like how people talk about 5 million like it does not matter anymore moving forward when the qb position between bq and da is well within normal budget for that position.
As for Stallworth if I were forced to pay him and could not get equal value for the amount I had to pay out I would definately keep him. He is not toxic to the team in the locker room and does have talent and potential.
I mean if mangini wants to run a qb comp in camp that's fine. I'm all for having both guyz qut it out. But shouldn't we be worrying about what's best for the ENTIRE TEAM?!?! I mean DA had an amazing run in the 07 season. He came in a game after trading frye and he lit it up the entire year. Then we he was the proclaimed starter, he shit down his leg. He made questionable throws into coverage and hung receivers out to dry cuz he trusted his arm to much and the year before just had to put the ball in an area and K2 BE or JJ would go get it. I'm a lil worried about DA's confidence in himself to carry the team in games knowing he's the #1 guy. He seemed to struggle with that last season. 07 he had no pressure.... the #1 guy got traded and all he had to do was step in and play. I"m not supporting either guy fully. BQ may have never beaten USC in college or won a "big game" but neither did Peyton. How many "big games" did Brees win? If Quinn seems to be the better fit for our system and we can get useful players by trading DA then do it. If we can use both guys then do it. Whatever will help this team win and be productive I feel is the best thing this management should do. Personally I'd like to see what Quinn can do with some time being the #1 guy. Plus having a management that is actually working together should help either guy.
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When it counts Boat Shoes has crapped all over himself
Heck, ship him off for a City BBQ lunch...that place is damn good
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"Boat Shoes" produced more TDs and wins last season than the other QBs combined. The team sucked, it wasn't just the QB that took a crap.
For those that think BQ needs to have 20 starts from now under his belt before he gets judged, they better remember he's gonna need 13 or so wins in that time just to match DA.
I'm not saying get rid of either of them, if they both are here through the summer, there ought to be a competition and then let the best man win..... However, as raised in another thread, there's no guarantee the current coaching staff is necessarily thinking of either of them as the long term solution.
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"Boat Shoes" produced more TDs and wins last season than the other QBs combined. The team sucked, it wasn't just the QB that took a crap.
For those that think BQ needs to have 20 starts from now under his belt before he gets judged, they better remember he's gonna need 13 or so wins in that time just to match DA.
I'm not saying get rid of either of them, if they both are here through the summer, there ought to be a competition and then let the best man win..... However, as raised in another thread, there's no guarantee the current coaching staff is necessarily thinking of either of them as the long term solution.
"Boat Shoes" produced more TDs and wins last season than the other QBs combined. The team sucked, it wasn't just the QB that took a crap.
For those that think BQ needs to have 20 starts from now under his belt before he gets judged, they better remember he's gonna need 13 or so wins in that time just to match DA.
I'm not saying get rid of either of them, if they both are here through the summer, there ought to be a competition and then let the best man win..... However, as raised in another thread, there's no guarantee the current coaching staff is necessarily thinking of either of them as the long term solution.
Wow. 2007 will be the year forever quoted by the Oregon Trailers, huh?
Is there anything DA didn't accomplish in 2007? I mean, wow, 10 wins, 29 TDs. Those are some SERIOUSLY GOOD numbers.
Wait. What's that? None of it mattered? Why? What do you mean?
Oh, you mean that little game against Cincy? Those pesky 4 interceptions that cost us the playoffs?
It was the wind! It was Chud! Quinn was watching me from the sideline and he put a hex on me! The defense blew it!
Bah. Enough with 2007, you freakin' Oregonian Manwagoners.
The sooner DA -- and you -- are gone and the quicker we can all stop pretending 2007 mattered, the better off we fans -- and frankly, the entire organization -- will be.
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Unless things take a big jump for the better, in a few years 2007 could be remembered by some as the year the Browns actually almost made the playoffs. Taking a 4 win team to 10 is big, whoever deserves the credit. In at least a couple other divisions that meant playoffs that season.
2008, the Browns arguably had the meat of the schedule up front, and DA, who missed a few weeks of preseason and had a weak or injured supporting cast at receiver, went 3 and 5. Just how well did the Browns do once he was sat? One win against the Broncos "impressive" defense.
Someone's gonna QB the team this year, and I've no idea who it's gonna be at this point.... too many possibilities.
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2007 will be remembered as the season where we had it all in our hands; Boat Shoes decided to crap all over himself in Cincitucky against a pathetic team.
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What good does a QB battle do? According to Lums and osusev, preseason doesn't mean shit, anyway. So, even when Quinn wins the 'battle', it will be 'blah blah blah preseason doesn't matter blahblahblah Anderson has more starts and should be the starter because we don't know what Quinn will do blahblahblah'
All the while ignoring that we know what Anderson does: He sucks when it matters, which is pretty much from game 5 and on.
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The market for DA can change if a contender's QB is injured. No way I trade him for less than a 2nd rounder
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2007 will be remembered as the season where we had it all in our hands; Boat Shoes decided to crap all over himself in Cincitucky against a pathetic team.
2007 will be remembered as the season where we had it all in our hands; Boat Shoes decided to crap all over himself in Cincitucky against a pathetic team.
I would prefer to forget about 2007 altogether. I don't want to hang my hat on something that appears in hindsight to be an anomaly. It's not like it was the start of something special. It's been the same old Browns ever since.
Can we honestly say that 2007 is what the Browns are supposed to be like? Is that the way we should have been in 2008 and should be in 2009 and beyond? Or are we in rebuilding mode once again?
Are we on the verge of something special or did we blow up the FO and Coaching departments? Did Cribbs's field position and Joe J's 3rd down conversions really mean that much to us?
-Al
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The market for DA can change if a contender's QB is injured. No way I trade him for less than a 2nd rounder
The market for DA can change if a contender's QB is injured. No way I trade him for less than a 2nd rounder
Minnesota just went after a QB not named DA because nobody feels he's worth a 2nd rounder. There's a reason we got him at garage sale prices which remains the same reason nobody else wants to fork out additional commitment for him. 31 other rationales would ask "if he was worth more - why aren't we discussing what you want for Quinn?" Now we gotta pretend we have the perfect scenario going into a 3rd consecutive season undecided about who are starting QB is.
We need exchange value seeing the way we got thin at Safety, WR, RT, OLB, RB and CB in just one offseason. Hank Fraley was considered too old in Philly 3 years ago so I'm guessing we need to address the Center position sometime soon too.
- Tom F.
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"Boat Shoes" produced more TDs and wins last season than the other QBs combined. The team sucked, it wasn't just the QB that took a crap.
For those that think BQ needs to have 20 starts from now under his belt before he gets judged, they better remember he's gonna need 13 or so wins in that time just to match DA.
I'm not saying get rid of either of them, if they both are here through the summer, there ought to be a competition and then let the best man win..... However, as raised in another thread, there's no guarantee the current coaching staff is necessarily thinking of either of them as the long term solution.
Wow. 2007 will be the year forever quoted by the Oregon Trailers, huh?
Is there anything DA didn't accomplish in 2007? I mean, wow, 10 wins, 29 TDs. Those are some SERIOUSLY GOOD numbers.
Wait. What's that? None of it mattered? Why? What do you mean?
Oh, you mean that little game against Cincy? Those pesky 4 interceptions that cost us the playoffs?
It was the wind! It was Chud! Quinn was watching me from the sideline and he put a hex on me! The defense blew it!
Bah. Enough with 2007, you freakin' Oregonian Manwagoners.
The sooner DA -- and you -- are gone and the quicker we can all stop pretending 2007 mattered, the better off we fans -- and frankly, the entire organization -- will be.
Wow. 2007 will be the year forever quoted by the Oregon Trailers, huh?
Is there anything DA didn't accomplish in 2007? I mean, wow, 10 wins, 29 TDs. Those are some SERIOUSLY GOOD numbers.
Wait. What's that? None of it mattered? Why? What do you mean?
Oh, you mean that little game against Cincy? Those pesky 4 interceptions that cost us the playoffs?
It was the wind! It was Chud! Quinn was watching me from the sideline and he put a hex on me! The defense blew it!
Bah. Enough with 2007, you freakin' Oregonian Manwagoners.
The sooner DA -- and you -- are gone and the quicker we can all stop pretending 2007 mattered, the better off we fans -- and frankly, the entire organization -- will be.
Hey, we lose DA and we lose a hell of a golfer. He can really play. He can hit the ball a ton, but no feel for the short game. Does that sound familiar.
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TheJokersWILD said:
Can anyone tell me if Derek Anderson is related to Les Andreson?
I'm not sure....but I'm pretty sure he's related to Loni Anderson.
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Er....wait...Maybe it was Pamela Anderson.
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Unless things take a big jump for the better, in a few years 2007 could be remembered by some as the year the Browns actually almost made the playoffs. Taking a 4 win team to 10 is big, whoever deserves the credit. In at least a couple other divisions that meant playoffs that season.
2008, the Browns arguably had the meat of the schedule up front, and DA, who missed a few weeks of preseason and had a weak or injured supporting cast at receiver, went 3 and 5. Just how well did the Browns do once he was sat? One win against the Broncos "impressive" defense.
Someone's gonna QB the team this year, and I've no idea who it's gonna be at this point.... too many possibilities.
2008, the Browns arguably had the meat of the schedule up front, and DA, who missed a few weeks of preseason and had a weak or injured supporting cast at receiver, went 3 and 5. Just how well did the Browns do once he was sat? One win against the Broncos "impressive" defense.
Umm, we didn't win against the Donkeys, short-timer.
But it is a solid indicator of how well Quinn played in the game when a Manwagoner thinks we actually got a W.
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