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  • I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.

  • I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I would bet, anecdotally, that an astronomically higher proportion of liberals become conservative than conservatives become liberal later in life.

    Ideas that were once liberal, become common place or conservative. New ideas take that place as liberal. Again, I'm talking social.

    For example, it is "liberal" to want gay marriage legalized. The majority of my generation have this now liberal view. As we get older, we aren't going to all of a sudden say gays shouldn't get married. We're going to keep these beliefs, and they'll become common place.

    Compare it to interracial marriage or women voting. At one point these were liberal views. If you look around today though, the vast majority of people share the belief that they're ok.

    Get it?

    Financially is a little different. Not every young adult has the same experience with money. Not all ate as versed in it. As they get older though, they will be. Plus, the longer you pay taxes, the more you lose to taxes, thr easier it is to say less taxes.

  • woody's right, eventually pecker sucking will go conservative. You heard it here first.

  • Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point? Steve

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    More liberal diversion from subject by Cleve and Woody.

    Cleve says they are creative, because scientists are curious about

    the nature of earth being flat or not.

    And Woody feels that scientists are not very political at all.

    Meanwhile, the subject was mathematical and engineering sciences being creative avenues.

    Smart enough to know all sorts of words, though, not able to keep to a simple subject.

    Just random emotional knee jerky.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?

    And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?

    WSS

    The best phycisists and mathematicians are extremely creative people. Making an exaggerated point here, but do you think someone brought up on the notion that the earth was flat and the sky was some kind of heavenly mural beckoning us onward, would have made the intuitive leaps that have brought us to where we are now in our understanding of the universe?

    @clevfan4life said:

    The best phycisists and mathematicians are extremely creative people. Making an exaggerated point here, but do you think someone brought up on the notion that the earth was flat and the sky was some kind of heavenly mural beckoning us onward, would have made the intuitive leaps that have brought us to where we are now in our understanding of the universe?

    I will assume there is a creative streak in the top 1 or 2 percent of any skilled field. More likely to be found across the board jn theater music and literature.

    WSS

  • Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?

    And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Actually I don't think that the sciences mathematics and engineering are necessarily creative avenues. So again your point?

    And are you trying to draw a comparison between upbringing and ideology?

    WSS

    Creativity doesn't have to be painting a pretty picture or writing a catchy song. Creativity exists outside of the Fine Arts

    Engineers are given a problem and a set of constraints. It is then on you (and/or your team) to find a solution. There is a lot of creativity involved in this process. I'm not sure how you could not see the creativity involved in these areas.

  • There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.

    WSS

  • There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.

    WSS

    ...ok? And?

    The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.

  • @westside-steve said:

    There are artists that do nothing but paint the same picture a dozen times a day and make a good living selling them to the starving artist sales.

    WSS

    ...ok? And?

    The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.

    @mld-woody said:

    ...ok? And?

    The point was you trying to say STEM wasn't a creative field. I disagree with that.

    I actually agree with woody. There's a lot of creativity to engineering.

  • I believe Steve is thinking its all equations and number crunching. That is just the format (in a sense) of some engineering courses like Heat Transfer or Fluid Dynamics (excluding labs).

    These courses just give the base of knowledge to solve the problems I talked about earlier. There is obviously some variation among different positions, but it is the same idea.

    Creativity is used to solve these problems. It could take a knowledge of Fluid Dynamics and a level of creativity to design some new product, or solve a manufacturing issue, etc.

    Either way, there is creativity involved.