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  • from what I seen Friday good for Montgomery and good maybe for a better Run Defense that looks a hell of a lot better on 1's and 2's. their i'll say it for now. Shelton looked unmoveable and others followed. Thursday will be a good thing to see with no Red Jersey on QB's and RG3 and others. Get your stop watch's ready to time Shelton's 40 time to QB.

  • @choco said:

    not to specifically call you out, but fan boi internet posters are THE stupidest around, think they are smarter than the people who actually hold a coaching job. You assume so much in your posts that it's hard to not see your very close to those who have their heads up their asses and smell roses.

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    @wargograw said:

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    They may be smarter, but they are not more qualified to be football coaches.

    Wilbert Montgomery, for example, has been an NFL running backs coach for 18 years, been on the staff of three Super Bow teams, and coached up the likes of Marshall Faulk, Steven Jackson and Ray Rice, so I think he knows a starting RB when he sees ones, and how to motivate NFL players.

    There's not too many dummy football coaches at the NFL level, they know their shit.

    Zombo

  • @choco said:

    not to specifically call you out, but fan boi internet posters are THE stupidest around, think they are smarter than the people who actually hold a coaching job. You assume so much in your posts that it's hard to not see your very close to those who have their heads up their asses and smell roses.

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    @wargograw said:

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    sure they are....that's why they're criticizing from behind a keyboard.
  • No, they're critiquing from behind a keyboard because they were able to get jobs that didn't require 80 hour weeks for 6 months of the year for low 6 figure salaries.

    And yeah, they know football. More than most fans. But some fans think their coaches are beyond reproach and I can't stand that.

  • I love what Montgomery did. Challenge their manhood and pride, and get them to play better than they think they can........... That's what any good coach does, at any level, in any sport.

  • Crow will get his 1000 yards this year. Coach Montgomery knows what he is doing, kinda like child psychology. West is the dude who I just dont think has his heart in it, he wants to be with the Ravens. Raised around that town and went to Townsen. I really wished we could get a 5th for him and just call it what it is and have Duke and Draughn in the back field.

  • @choco said:

    not to specifically call you out, but fan boi internet posters are THE stupidest around, think they are smarter than the people who actually hold a coaching job. You assume so much in your posts that it's hard to not see your very close to those who have their heads up their asses and smell roses.

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    @wargograw said:

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    Perhaps not coaches, but I'd be happy to say some of the more educated fans would make fine scouts for their respective teams.

  • Crow will get his 1000 yards this year. Coach Montgomery knows what he is doing, kinda like child psychology. West is the dude who I just dont think has his heart in it, he wants to be with the Ravens. Raised around that town and went to Townsen. I really wished we could get a 5th for him and just call it what it is and have Duke and Draughn in the back field.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Crow will get his 1000 yards this year. Coach Montgomery knows what he is doing, kinda like child psychology. West is the dude who I just dont think has his heart in it, he wants to be with the Ravens. Raised around that town and went to Townsen. I really wished we could get a 5th for him and just call it what it is and have Duke and Draughn in the back field.

    Im with you.....thinking it's Crows job if he wants it......

    Although I do understand RB by committee and the concept of having 2 guys who can do the job.....I think QB's and RB's need lots of reps to get a rhythm and rotating them is counter productive......would just love to see Crow get 20-25 a few times......I say he rips it up!

  • @wargograw said:

    Lots of educated fans are smarter than lots of football coaches.

    Perhaps not coaches, but I'd be happy to say some of the more educated fans would make fine scouts for their respective teams.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Perhaps not coaches, but I'd be happy to say some of the more educated fans would make fine scouts for their respective teams.

    I agree. Means a lot coming from you. Weren't you a coach?

    Coaching is about brains (insofar as their rarity makes those that have it rise to the top quickly) and connections. Take a smart guy who has vision but maybe isn't an Xs and Os mad scientist per se (Mack Brown comes to mind) and he is more likely to succeed than your Will Muschamp, Ed Orgeron types. Sorry for all the college references. Just know the landscape better.

  • @cambridgeho said:

    Crow will get his 1000 yards this year. Coach Montgomery knows what he is doing, kinda like child psychology. West is the dude who I just dont think has his heart in it, he wants to be with the Ravens. Raised around that town and went to Townsen. I really wished we could get a 5th for him and just call it what it is and have Duke and Draughn in the back field.

    Im with you.....thinking it's Crows job if he wants it......

    Although I do understand RB by committee and the concept of having 2 guys who can do the job.....I think QB's and RB's need lots of reps to get a rhythm and rotating them is counter productive......would just love to see Crow get 20-25 a few times......I say he rips it up!

    @mudfly said:

    Im with you.....thinking it's Crows job if he wants it......

    Although I do understand RB by committee and the concept of having 2 guys who can do the job.....I think QB's and RB's need lots of reps to get a rhythm and rotating them is counter productive......would just love to see Crow get 20-25 a few times......I say he rips it up!

    I agree. Animal.

    I do wonder about Cambridge's theory on West though. I sure never could play for the Ravens and I'm not even close to being a born and raised in Cleveland thoroughbred from day 1, immersed in Browns all my life-type of fan like West. I kinda feel for him and I agree we should shop him.

  • Id say that coaches are just like everything else.....there isnt any one attribute that makes them great.....

    Some are great because they have brilliant football minds and excell at the X's and O's....

    Some are great because they are great motivators and find a way to get players to excel...

    Some are great because they have an uncanny eye for talent and seem to put the right guys in the right positions to succeed...

    With College, some of the greatest simply had the right mix of charisma and leadership to become top recruiters and attract the best talent....

    So....debate away.....but there are all types of super successful coaches with varying levels of X and O intelligence

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Perhaps not coaches, but I'd be happy to say some of the more educated fans would make fine scouts for their respective teams.

    I agree. Means a lot coming from you. Weren't you a coach?

    Coaching is about brains (insofar as their rarity makes those that have it rise to the top quickly) and connections. Take a smart guy who has vision but maybe isn't an Xs and Os mad scientist per se (Mack Brown comes to mind) and he is more likely to succeed than your Will Muschamp, Ed Orgeron types. Sorry for all the college references. Just know the landscape better.

    @wargograw said:

    I agree. Means a lot coming from you. Weren't you a coach?

    Coaching is about brains (insofar as their rarity makes those that have it rise to the top quickly) and connections. Take a smart guy who has vision but maybe isn't an Xs and Os mad scientist per se (Mack Brown comes to mind) and he is more likely to succeed than your Will Muschamp, Ed Orgeron types. Sorry for all the college references. Just know the landscape better.

    My coaching time has been limited to younger kids and jr/sr high school as an assistant. As for what it takes? There truly is no formula that guarantee's a good/successful coach.

    If there are any traits that all (should) share they would be passion, leadership, accountability... These are the things you first hear players describe about coaches they admire.

  • Really think Johnson & Johnson will cut into Crow and West carries but the more options we have to move the chains the better. It was clear neither West nor Crow was a threat in the passing game. Preseason may preview some good things out of this group if we can just keep them all on the field. Disappointing not knowing what you really have in this unit.