PERSONAL ATTACKS, FEELINGS ETC.

Riffer X

I'm not sure what is going on here lately but I noticed a ton of sniping at one another. Is it possible for men to all rag at the same time?

The self righteous bullshit needs to go. If you have a relationship with Christ, Satan, Buddha or whoever, keep it to yourself. People don't need to be told you are "praying" for them over some football board opinions. There really is absolutely no need for anyone to bring their religious views onto this Browns Board, especially when it's to patronize and condescend others. Do that crap on the political board if you must.

If you hate OSU, fine, but don't infer that everybody on the board that is an OSU fan is a blindly loyal meathead that thinks the Big Ten and Jim Tressel can do no wrong. Anymore around here Buckeye fans are being treated like friggin outsiders who are a bunch of morons. I have barely seen any posts of Buckeye fans here doing what guys are claiming they are doing. Enough with the stupid stereotyping. You may know guys outside of this board who are clueless but being all inclusive is offensive to the real Buckeye fans here. The only blind stereotyping should be directed toward our friends in Western PA, and the more bitter the better.

If you have a personal issue with someone than send a PM, that's one of the great features of this killer board. We have some great new posters here and some others that have been here awhile and really have become core members. Even some of the better, informative posters here have been bitching at one another.

Let's try to respect one another and realize we are all brothers as Browns fans. Appreciate some of the knowledge here. We've got some guys with serious game as regular posters on this site who take a lot of time to research and share their knowledge. Appreciate it and embrace it. Those of you who are trying to make this board about you (and you know who you are) your posts will be deleted and eventually you will be banned until you respect others. This comes from Stan who has put a lot of hard work and time into giving us this killer board to share with one another. The mods are going to do our best to keep this a board where new people will want to belong without seeing a bunch of bitching and one upping others. Not asking for no debate or disagreement, just to treat others as you want to be treated.

Before you call someone a name ask yourself if you would do it face to face.

We're probably going to see an influx of new members here before the draft because Stan has put us out there on Facebook and we want new members to come in here and contribute. This was mentioned the other day, but there are a ton of people who just read this board for info and don't post. Keep in mind when sniping at someone over something trivial everyone is reading it. We want this to be a board where people can invite friends and family here and be proud of it, not embarrassed by it.

IMO this is hands down the board out there, not even close. The OBR is way to big and cliquey and there are no others that come close. Thanks goes out to everybody for making it that way.

CLEVELandMILIDH

Also if theres already a thread started about information that you wanna post can we post it in that thread and not start a new one.

we have like 3 threads on Stallworth right now. just throwing that out there

Riffer X

Zombo said:
I'm with ya, Rif ... it was still funny when Mark-O called the new guy a homo though.
Zombo

I hear ya Big Z, we are not talking about losing our sense of humor here, that would be.....dare I say.....sacrilegious, or something.

Riffer X

nmills said:
Also if theres already a thread started about information that you wanna post can we post it in that thread and not start a new one.
we have like 3 threads on Stallworth right now. just throwing that out there

Noted. This has long been an issue.

We can't merge those threads now because the news has changed.

Also, too many people like to start threads before reading the board. There are also those who just pop in and follow their thread they started. We really don't want that kind of poster.

Gips

I agree politics,religion and serious personal attacks are uncalled for and will almost always fuel either bad feelings and or unwanted remarks that lead to not so cool stuff on this great board that is a band of brothers(and sisters) in the browns to me.. and we should try to respect each others opinions and views on all things browns...even when we disagree we agree to disagree and most that are on this board do just that..we get some really awesome debates and fun threads going on this board and some newcomers may interpret such fun innocent stuff as lums calling some us bq fags or calling each other idiots or morons as an open license to insult or defame others at will and be downright nasty just because the want to...

Sometimes i think some of them are actually posers from a steelers board...hehehehe

DTBH

@riffer-x said:
If you hate OSU, fine, but don't infer that everybody on the board that is an OSU fan is a blindly loyal meathead that thinks the Big Ten and Jim Tressel can do no wrong. Anymore around here Buckeye fans are being treated like friggin outsiders who are a bunch of morons. I have barely seen any posts of Buckeye fans here doing what guys are claiming they are doing. Enough with the stupid stereotyping. You may know guys outside of this board who are clueless but being all inclusive is offensive to the real Buckeye fans here. The only blind stereotyping should be directed toward our friends in Western PA, and the more bitter the better.

It's funny how ironically, this paragraph reeks of blind OSU loyalty while it claims that sort of thing doesn't exist at the same time. Ever since the SEC has started whipping the shit out of the Buckeyes in Bowl games years ago, the Buckeye fan base has done NOTHING but grown bitter. Forgive the realistic Buckeye fans for seeing reality and not living in denial, and actually evaluating Buckeye players/talent with clear glasses.

The OSU bitterness towards ESPN, well basically everyone outside of Tressel's reign, is worse than that of Rush Limbaugh towards the left.

"OSU can do no wrong" should go in about 5 or 6 of you guys' signatures.

All you did was make a thread saying "you can't call us blindly loyal OSU fans blindly loyal OSU fans."

OSU - Fags.

Riffer X

@inspecta said:
Also funny that this thread was started somebody who's entire signature is one gigantic jab at another poster....
I guess Lums doesn't count.....and he shouldn't cause he's not a Browns fan, but still ironic nonetheless.

I didn't realize this was a problem lately, I really haven't seen much of it, but as long as there are message boards in the world there will be flame wars.

Oh come on dude you chase Lums around this board like nobodies business. I figured this type of responses and so did Stan. Just like DTBH above, he just proved my point. He's on another thread calling guys names.

Gotta love the internet tough guys like Jaqueer out there.

Nobody is asking for saint hood here, just a little clean up before it gets out of hand. You, of all people know how quickly things can get out of hand.

Riffer X

@dtbh said:
It's funny how ironically, this paragraph reeks of blind OSU loyalty while it claims that sort of thing doesn't exist at the same time. Ever since the SEC has started whipping the shit out of the Buckeyes in Bowl games years ago, the Buckeye fan base has done NOTHING but grown bitter. Forgive the realistic Buckeye fans for seeing reality and not living in denial, and actually evaluating Buckeye players/talent with clear glasses.
The OSU bitterness towards ESPN, well basically everyone outside of Tressel's reign, is worse than that of Rush Limbaugh towards the left.

"OSU can do no wrong" should go in about 5 or 6 of you guys' signatures.

All you did was make a thread saying "you can't call us blindly loyal OSU fans blindly loyal OSU fans."

OSU - Fags.

Beautiful, you've now made it known where you're coming from, which is an internet tough guy. The JL thread you can't do anything but call people names.

NewEraDawg

Sometimes there is just so much you can do with people . There is a wall I think .

Riffer X

Zombo said:

LMFAO

Hey, isn't this supposed to be in the RAC 'n ROLLS forum?

Albert Morris slayed this song.

JewDago

does this mean i need to change my SN? and possibly my avatar?

Riffer X

TheJokersWILD said:
Just wanted to say HI and that I am easy to get along with so I don't think I will have any problems with anybody on the board.

Have you seen that Batman movie The Dark Knight yet?

DieHardBrownsFan

He's the Joker my man, the joker.

Riffer X

@inspecta said:
You guys anticipated my exact response or just us pointing out your sig?
Either way this thread is pretty gay.

Who's feelings are getting hurt here? I'm just curious who ran to the mods/stan crying about this?

Also it's pretty funny that Rich's posts/threads get deleted on sight even if they aren't inflammatory but based soley on who he is and his history here. Why don't you guys try moderating this place with a little consistency then come back to us on your high horse telling us to behave...

Sounds good.

We'll get thing turned around just for you and Rich bud.

Flugel

@inspecta said:
Also funny that this thread was started somebody who's entire signature is one gigantic jab at another poster....

Tell you what, the first time I saw that signature soda came flying out my nose. It wasn't JUST another poster so I refer to this phenomenon as Style Points! You DO know and understand that all etiquette goes out the window when it's time to bust Loverboy's balls about his he-be-ge-be fondness for DA. Riff isn't doing anything that you, me or anyone else hasn't done when Loverboy described his powertool for DA.

All that said, Riff's addressing BROWNS fans so Lummy doesn't apply to this. A subject like DWI/DUI can mean different things to different people so I understand where Riff is coming from. That doesn't mean I'm a role model for good behavior or nice-nice - I'm just sayin...

Can we just keep religion or Jesus out of football threads? If I wanted to bring in Jesus to put an end to a LONG topic - don't you think I could have asked every Derek Anderson fan what QB Jesus chose to throw TD passes under his shadow at Notre Dame during BCS caliber football? I didn't so the entire student body in the Upper Pacific Northwest can exhale.

- Tom F.

DTBH

@riffer-x said:
Beautiful, you've now made it known where you're coming from, which is an internet tough guy. The JL thread you can't do anything but call people names.

I did not call names and I did not try to be tough.

I called Laurenitis as what I see him as... a sluggish player. And I called the Big Ten what I see it as... a slow conference. That's not name-calling.

If you think it is, you've got a lot to learn about name-calling.

I'm sorry that the truths about OSU and JL get all the little OSU cheerleaders panties in a bunch so much so that they had to go make an entire thread about it.(That's name-calling.)

NewEraDawg

@dtbh said:
I'm sorry that the truths about OSU and JL get all the little OSU cheerleaders panties in a bunch so much so that they had to go make an entire thread about it.(That's name-calling.)

Your Truths

Riffer X

@inspecta said:
I figured you'd come back with some snide response.
Listen, just answer this for me.

For about a week now Rich has been posting a thread about Shaun Rogers and why or why not we should release him. THe last thread had quite a few responses and no flaming whatsoever other than from ytown. There were even a few people who agreed with him, and yet that thread was deleted for no reason other than who RIch is.

Now Rich is banned for some reason, again no explanation or anything. Now you guys certainly aren't required to explain your actions, but don't pin a thread up to the top talking about respecting others when you don't respect the people who post here. Now I realize that Rich has been a huge asshole at times, but he's also shared a lot of good football with us as well.

I'm sure you're going to come back with another snide comment about how Rich and I are buds and the such, but it really has nothing to do with him, other people's threads/posts go bye bye with no explanation as to why when they have absolutely no flaming in them whatsoever.

I said it in another thread and it bears repeating here, good message boards very rarely delete threads, if a thread is deemed inappropriate it is locked with a note from the moderator who locked it as to why they locked it.

Here we have a group of mods who delete behind a curtain with no accountability for their actions, even stan made mention of how you guys basically propped him up as the fall guy for all the unpopular deletions of threads/posts.

And in reality I could care less how it's run, however like I said when you pin a thread to the top of the board asking everybody to respect each other when none is shown to us I just have to laugh.

You want to ask questions feel free to give me a PM, preferably not a Rich email calling me an asshole for the millionth time. This thread is not going to be turned into another fooking da ich thread.

? mz.

OK...I'm no stranger to arguments here. I've both made personal attacks and received them numerous times. That being said, some things are just out of bounds. Like people's families, wives, girlfriends, children, pets, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, etc. Less than one hour ago in the Political Forum, a poster told me he fcuked my wife. Mind you this isn't the first time this has happened. And why, you ask, did today's attack on my wife occur? Because the clown I was "arguing" with never has anything intelligent to counter with besides personal attacks. This is a football board, and because I'm Liberal and from California, I've been called a faggot more times than you can possibly imagine. I understand this kind of shit happens when machismo gets in the way of discussion, but bringing family members into the fray is just pathetic and crosses a line MEN shouldn't cross. Call me a fag, fine. Call my wife a whore and we have problems.

I would also like to take this opportunity to apologize to one poster in particular...Vegasdogg. I have recently attacked him personally when I shouldn't have, and I will do my best to refrain from such activities in the future. I can be a dick, but that kind of stuff isn't what I'm all about.

admin 0

@inspecta said:
Here we have a group of mods who delete behind a curtain with no accountability for their actions, even stan made mention of how you guys basically propped him up as the fall guy for all the unpopular deletions of threads/posts.

Inspecta,

Me having to come in and explain why once again Rich has found himself on the wrong side of the moderation is actually silly, but I'll play along.

I suspended Rich. I suspended him until I can figure out how to hold his posts in a moderation que until I can get around to approving them for public. It may be 24hrs, it may be a week, it may be a very long time ... I'm in no rush.

I don't personally police this site as much as I probably should. I take time off in most off-seasons and respect the hell out of friends who serve as moderators on their own voluntary time during my absence as well as stand shoulder-to-shoulder with me when I do feel like participating in the forum for my own personal enjoyment.

I take into account for over-zealous moderators. I'm pretty soft at moving to a point of suspending anyone. But when I do visit the forum after being absent, I look through the Admin controls and logs to get a feel for how much moderation is/was needed. When I see a member like Rich4eagle have so many warning marks that they no longer register because he is maxed out, I raise an eye brow. When I see that those warnings came from at least four different moderators and not just one over-zealous one ... I start to draw interest. When I observe the forum for just a short stint and see that same member spouting off about moderation, I then know it is time to silence the jackass because warning just don't do. When I see the name on the account as a ten-year repeat offender, I shake my head and think of what a douch-bag I am for "consistiently" allowing the mutant to even waste all of our time.

I don't give a rat-ass how much football speak he or you claim he brings to this forum, it ain't worth the volunteers time who care enough to assist in the creation and exsistance of this forum.

This is the best group of moderators this place has ever seen. We are primed for a great season in 2009-2010, hope you all enjoy.