Jonathan Paul Manziel
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As for the game tonight, I was only able to catch the second half. I came away rather impressed with Manziel's performance tonight. He had a couple nice throws and didn't make any back breaking mistakes. It might be baby steps but, at the very least, it's in the right direction.
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I saw only a few good throws.. most of his passes were wobbly and he still has trouble making reads and relies too much on the hot route. he stares down receivers in a bad way.. I was at the game.. yay he got a td against scrubs that will for the most part.. not make the bills roster.. get a grip.... when it counted against 3rd and 4th stringers.. he sucked..
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Manziel looked good. McCown looked terrible. Looks like a controversy in Cleveland.
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I saw only a few good throws.. most of his passes were wobbly and he still has trouble making reads and relies too much on the hot route. he stares down receivers in a bad way.. I was at the game.. yay he got a td against scrubs that will for the most part.. not make the bills roster.. get a grip.... when it counted against 3rd and 4th stringers.. he sucked..
I saw only a few good throws.. most of his passes were wobbly and he still has trouble making reads and relies too much on the hot route. he stares down receivers in a bad way.. I was at the game.. yay he got a td against scrubs that will for the most part.. not make the bills roster.. get a grip.... when it counted against 3rd and 4th stringers.. he sucked..
His teammates on the field were also 3rd and 4th stringers. Also, this is pretty much his rookie year due to being a fuck up last year in his personal life.
I don't hold out much hope for the guy but I will certainly give credit where it is due. He played alright against the backups for a really good defense.
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Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
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Well....Housler did finally catch a few last night.....though, Id say Bibbs is looking better......and better......
Not seeing us keep 4 plus a FB....so, my bubble has Housler and Dray on it......and Housler dont block....sooooo
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Yep, assuming Barnidge is fine after concussion checks, he's #1, backed up by Bibbs. Then does Pett want a blocker or a receiver as the #3? My money's not on the 'flashy' player.
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Well....Housler did finally catch a few last night.....though, Id say Bibbs is looking better......and better......
Not seeing us keep 4 plus a FB....so, my bubble has Housler and Dray on it......and Housler dont block....sooooo
Well....Housler did finally catch a few last night.....though, Id say Bibbs is looking better......and better......
Not seeing us keep 4 plus a FB....so, my bubble has Housler and Dray on it......and Housler dont block....sooooo
Housler is a really big dude and he has that going for him, but even his catches looked "awkward". He double caught one for sure. Bibbs as you've noted on the other hand looks really good out there.
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Manziel showed some more good things last night which is encouraging. The 10-18 number is pretty misleading because he had at least two drops, two dumb penalties and little protection at the end of the game. He had a really nice deep throw rolling out to his weak side and on his TD pass didn't run when he had a lane. He shouldn't and won't be the week 1 one guy but I'm encouraged by what we've seen so far.
McCown on the other hand struggled. Now I'll be the first to admit the Buffalo defense is crazy good, I can't believe how fast they are more than anything else. I still thought though that McCown left the pocket early way too many times and the 2nd INT was pretty bad. Hopefully though with the extended rest we can actually put a full squad of the one's out there against Tampa. Don't forget it's just preseason and the Browns practiced against the Bills all week.
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Yep, assuming Barnidge is fine after concussion checks, he's #1, backed up by Bibbs. Then does Pett want a blocker or a receiver as the #3? My money's not on the 'flashy' player.
Yep, assuming Barnidge is fine after concussion checks, he's #1, backed up by Bibbs. Then does Pett want a blocker or a receiver as the #3? My money's not on the 'flashy' player.
The good news is that Barnidge is already cleared....no concussion.....so we will see him back at practice and against TB....
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Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
Agree, but right now I'm wondering where our vaunted 1st Team "Best Oline in the NFL" is hiding? Because the unit that rolled out there last night sure wasn't them. Pre-season I know, but my concern is growing.
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Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
Agree, but right now I'm wondering where our vaunted 1st Team "Best Oline in the NFL" is hiding? Because the unit that rolled out there last night sure wasn't them. Pre-season I know, but my concern is growing.
Agree, but right now I'm wondering where our vaunted 1st Team "Best Oline in the NFL" is hiding? Because the unit that rolled out there last night sure wasn't them. Pre-season I know, but my concern is growing.
I don't get concerned about scores or how units do in pre-season. I want to see key players of the future progress. What I saw from Shelton, JM, Cooper especially and Orchard gives hope for the season to come.
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Agree, but right now I'm wondering where our vaunted 1st Team "Best Oline in the NFL" is hiding? Because the unit that rolled out there last night sure wasn't them. Pre-season I know, but my concern is growing.
I don't get concerned about scores or how units do in pre-season. I want to see key players of the future progress. What I saw from Shelton, JM, Cooper especially and Orchard gives hope for the season to come.
I don't get concerned about scores or how units do in pre-season. I want to see key players of the future progress. What I saw from Shelton, JM, Cooper especially and Orchard gives hope for the season to come.
Not concerned about scores. Getting concerned about how some of our "perceived" strengths are competing. Specifically on offense.
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Yep, assuming Barnidge is fine after concussion checks, he's #1, backed up by Bibbs. Then does Pett want a blocker or a receiver as the #3? My money's not on the 'flashy' player.
Yep, assuming Barnidge is fine after concussion checks, he's #1, backed up by Bibbs. Then does Pett want a blocker or a receiver as the #3? My money's not on the 'flashy' player.
Why should Barnidge be #1? So far I have seen almost nothing from him that warrants that designation, either last year or this preseason.
Explain to me what contributions he has made that makes him the starter. Blocking ability?
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Getting better and better. He needed help at the end, but didn't get much. I think that's in part due to the doubt of his teammates. When he shows them that confidence that "we will win", guys will believe and make those plays.
Assuming he continues on his upward trend.
Getting better and better. He needed help at the end, but didn't get much. I think that's in part due to the doubt of his teammates. When he shows them that confidence that "we will win", guys will believe and make those plays.
Assuming he continues on his upward trend.
It could also be better with the first string WRs rather than the third string WRs. Veterans like Bowe and Hartline will know to come back and give help....and hopefully Hawkins/Gabriel/ etc. will also know. The camp fodder and rookies playing last night don't know or haven't learned this skill.
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Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
Yep...Id say Johnny is looking much better than what we saw last season.....taking steps in the right direction.....got a little taste of keeping the play alive...I like the progress Im seeing....
In his defense, the 2nd team O Line has sucked royally and Johnny has had zeee-ro time...to stand in the pocket....which barely exists. Thinking he'd be even better with some blockers and receivers......time will tell.....Im much more encouraged now than before....
Agreee, Michael Bowie looks more like David Bowie playing the Thin White Duke diddling around at rehearsal:
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Good game last night.
Seeing him starting to grow a little bit out there.
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Well....Housler did finally catch a few last night.....though, Id say Bibbs is looking better......and better......
Not seeing us keep 4 plus a FB....so, my bubble has Housler and Dray on it......and Housler dont block....sooooo
Well....Housler did finally catch a few last night.....though, Id say Bibbs is looking better......and better......
Not seeing us keep 4 plus a FB....so, my bubble has Housler and Dray on it......and Housler dont block....sooooo
Yup... last nite Barn gets dinged and Dray comes in and catches his first of the Pre... looked lumbering doing it, but did it.
Housler caught a couple, but looked neither smooth not fast doing so. Not seeing the threat...
I'm concerned Barn is a little fragile, but see a TE trio of Barn, Dray and Bibbs in our 2015 future.
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Manziel looked good. McCown looked terrible. Looks like a controversy in Cleveland.
Manziel looked good. McCown looked terrible. Looks like a controversy in Cleveland.
In order... Yes. No. No.
yep...McCown made some of those bad decisions we were hoping he wouldnt....those int's shouldnt have happened.....
The first INT was off Barn's usually reliable hands.
The 2nd??? In his presser McCown seemed to be saying it was in the game plan to throw 50/50 balls to single covered WRs. Was an odd thing to say.
Unfortunately that throw was not a 50/50 ball...
Agree, but right now I'm wondering where our vaunted 1st Team "Best Oline in the NFL" is hiding? Because the unit that rolled out there last night sure wasn't them. Pre-season I know, but my concern is growing.
My impression was that compared to the Mackless Manhandling the Bills laid on us last year, we did well. But as I said, it's grade time... it's my pre-season, too. Think I'll try to look for unit failures vs. individual.
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