Preseason Game #2 Bills vs Browns
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Thanks to mik I have my new Brownsboard T shirt to wear and a New Belgium 1554 Black Lager (think Dark Brown) to drink with some of those Pepperidge Farm Orange Goldfish to snack on.
Game Time!
Thanks to mik I have my new Brownsboard T shirt
I got my shirt from mik too ............... F'n AWESOME!!
Got my shirt today - THANKS MIK!
I will wear it PROUDLY !
MIK is da man!..........got mine too.........life is good again!
And, as some you know, I brought home a stray from Browns practice a couple weeks ago....and he got his Browns shirt too....
Haden Bean Shelton on his way to get a hair cut.....
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He's a beautiful pup, Mud ! I figured you would go over
and make it happen. Congrats !
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What a joke our secondary is. It doesn't matter what team we're playing against or what offensive scheme we're playing against, it doesn't matter, none of it. If it is 3rd down and 50 the other team will convert on our secondary.
Our pass defense on 3rd down is absolutely horrendous.
What a joke our secondary is. It doesn't matter what team we're playing against or what offensive scheme we're playing against, it doesn't matter, none of it. If it is 3rd down and 50 the other team will convert on our secondary.
Our pass defense on 3rd down is absolutely horrendous.
Yep, I watched last night, and was not impressed by much. The seconds were more fun to watch.. but the Oline, both 1st n 2nds were porous.
And the secondary, what the hell. WE have 3rd down, and we can't convert because it seems like the bills are sending all 11 guys. We get Buffalo to 3rd and long, and our DB's are over 5 yards off their receivers. I don't get it. If it's third down, why are you not playing man defense and watching the first down marker? There was a very specific third down that EJ converted. The replay showed our DB 5-10 yards off the receiver. The receiver was 2-3 yards beyond the first down marker before our DB broke on the receiver. Easy first down completion.
Hope, the whole game was laid back and they were trying different things. But the offense reminded of Brian Daboll/Mangini era... at least with the first Teams, very vanilla offense.
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Don't overlook the obvious here people-the first two preseason games are largely to see what you have in 2nd and 3rd string guys. By my count early in the 2nd quarter 6 penciled starters were out of the game on defense, and the guys out there will probably be selling insurance this time a month from now. These games don't matter and the Browns like every other team are using them as auditions for the last spots on a team. To see a guy like Bibbs or Wynn really impress out there and cut down those that didn't. Also, you don't show your hand in preseason for other teams to see. It's well known that many things done are "vanilla" intentionally.
This next game will be a much better idea of what we got from the guys who will actually be lining up when it matters.
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What a joke our secondary is. It doesn't matter what team we're playing against or what offensive scheme we're playing against, it doesn't matter, none of it. If it is 3rd down and 50 the other team will convert on our secondary.
Our pass defense on 3rd down is absolutely horrendous.
Yep, I watched last night, and was not impressed by much. The seconds were more fun to watch.. but the Oline, both 1st n 2nds were porous.
And the secondary, what the hell. WE have 3rd down, and we can't convert because it seems like the bills are sending all 11 guys. We get Buffalo to 3rd and long, and our DB's are over 5 yards off their receivers. I don't get it. If it's third down, why are you not playing man defense and watching the first down marker? There was a very specific third down that EJ converted. The replay showed our DB 5-10 yards off the receiver. The receiver was 2-3 yards beyond the first down marker before our DB broke on the receiver. Easy first down completion.
Hope, the whole game was laid back and they were trying different things. But the offense reminded of Brian Daboll/Mangini era... at least with the first Teams, very vanilla offense.
Yep, I watched last night, and was not impressed by much. The seconds were more fun to watch.. but the Oline, both 1st n 2nds were porous.
buffalo's defense will make any team's OL look porous. i guess you didn't catch the little bio's they (ESPN) did of each player on the bill's front 4. joe thomas who is a perennial pro-bowler had a tough time last year against this squad with 2 golding penalties.
the sky isn't falling everyone. the browns played pretty good against a team a lot are picking to overtake NE in the AFCE. a healthy browns team in stride in the middle of the season would be a test for the bills, IMO.
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Thanks to mik I have my new Brownsboard T shirt
I got my shirt from mik too ............... F'n AWESOME!!
Got my shirt today - THANKS MIK!
I will wear it PROUDLY !
MIK is da man!..........got mine too.........life is good again!
And, as some you know, I brought home a stray from Browns practice a couple weeks ago....and he got his Browns shirt too....
Haden Bean Shelton on his way to get a hair cut.....
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Yep, I watched last night, and was not impressed by much. The seconds were more fun to watch.. but the Oline, both 1st n 2nds were porous.
buffalo's defense will make any team's OL look porous. i guess you didn't catch the little bio's they (ESPN) did of each player on the bill's front 4. joe thomas who is a perennial pro-bowler had a tough time last year against this squad with 2 golding penalties.
the sky isn't falling everyone. the browns played pretty good against a team a lot are picking to overtake NE in the AFCE. a healthy browns team in stride in the middle of the season would be a test for the bills, IMO.
buffalo's defense will make any team's OL look porous. i guess you didn't catch the little bio's they (ESPN) did of each player on the bill's front 4. joe thomas who is a perennial pro-bowler had a tough time last year against this squad with 2 golding penalties.
the sky isn't falling everyone. the browns played pretty good against a team a lot are picking to overtake NE in the AFCE. a healthy browns team in stride in the middle of the season would be a test for the bills, IMO.
The bills are much improved but who is picking them to overtake the cheaters? News to me.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Yep, I watched last night, and was not impressed by much. The seconds were more fun to watch.. but the Oline, both 1st n 2nds were porous.
buffalo's defense will make any team's OL look porous. i guess you didn't catch the little bio's they (ESPN) did of each player on the bill's front 4. joe thomas who is a perennial pro-bowler had a tough time last year against this squad with 2 golding penalties.
the sky isn't falling everyone. the browns played pretty good against a team a lot are picking to overtake NE in the AFCE. a healthy browns team in stride in the middle of the season would be a test for the bills, IMO.
buffalo's defense will make any team's OL look porous. i guess you didn't catch the little bio's they (ESPN) did of each player on the bill's front 4. joe thomas who is a perennial pro-bowler had a tough time last year against this squad with 2 golding penalties.
the sky isn't falling everyone. the browns played pretty good against a team a lot are picking to overtake NE in the AFCE. a healthy browns team in stride in the middle of the season would be a test for the bills, IMO.
Oh I heard... it just seemed that the offense wasn't prepared to handle it with the play calling. You know they are going to push, so where are the quick slants, and other things that we saw from the seconds. Again, it is pre-season, and I would hope that the firsts are just holding back a bit, trying to keep injury free, not showing our hand, etc, etc.
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Pre Season
OL is causing some concern - I don't care that it's the Bill DL, they didn't look good.
1st half looked pretty bad, which is when most of Starters were playing.
2nd half looked better, but that's when the Whopper Floppers are playing against the Bus Drivers.
A few Players had some flashes.
Manziel is progressing, don't know if he'll make it, but he's making reads/audibles and an improved product versus what we had last year.
Bibbs better make this Team, kids got talent.
Lee's a keeper, second game I've seen him place some incredible Punts.
So far, Cooper is looking better than Orchard despite being Drafted later, but it's a learning process - they're both pluses.
Erving is getting moved all over the line . . . Jack of all Trades, Master of None applies too this point.
McCown played like I expected him to play last week, so he's regressed in that aspect.
West is Dancing and going East/West too much, I like Crow better but he wasn't stellar and seems to be behind West on the Depth Chart for some reason.
I said 8 - 8 this year . . . glad it's only Pre Season, cause right now it's not promising - too many injuries though to get a real good read.
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I thought the rookie defensive "Shock Squad" looked pretty good. Cooper, Shelton, Orchard, Pullard, even Gaines and Campbell did better than some of their veteran counterparts. Yes, it was against the #2s and 3s of the Bills, but they all looked fairly promising.
The offensive rookies didn't match up. Erving had a tough time as did Mayle.
We really need to see Duke Johnson get in there to see if he adds anything.
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Bademosi and Bowie should be wearing new unis by the start of the season. I saw no reason to keep them around. I know Bademosi is great at special teams, but I think we can get comparable production from someone else that can contribute on offense/defense as well. He has absolutely no cover skills outside of punts. Bowie should get a job at Dyson he sucked so hard.
And what the hell happened to the Craig Robertson of last year?
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Re: Manziel. I see things that would indicate 'some' growth. However I also see a QB that still gets a #1 target locked into his mind pre-snap.
He doesn't appear comfortable playing mind games at the line like some of the great ones seem to do. Now, do I think he's putting in time and making some better decisions? Yes. Did I see the 'best game as a Pro, he's making leaps and bounds in progress'..? No. He still is yet to be ready as anNFL starter. I could highlight examples and missed reads. One of those appears to be a receiver and QB not being on the same page. The others were all on Johnny.
There is a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. Is it heaven or an on-coming train? Not sure yet.
What a joke our secondary is. It doesn't matter what team we're playing against or what offensive scheme we're playing against, it doesn't matter, none of it. If it is 3rd down and 50 the other team will convert on our secondary.
Our pass defense on 3rd down is absolutely horrendous.While the lack of discipline and holes in man coverage is concerning, what did you expcect? We're using Bademosi as a CB/Big Nickel. Then two players that barring a miracle might see the practice squad. I believe I did a little write up on Gaines before the draft and he scared me as a man coverage CB. Toss in rookies learning a new system, these are the results. Sky isn't falling there, guy.
Re: Manziel. I see things that would indicate 'some' growth. However I also see a QB that still gets a #1 target locked into his mind pre-snap.
He doesn't appear comfortable playing mind games at the line like some of the great ones seem to do. Now, do I think he's putting in time and making some better decisions? Yes. Did I see the 'best game as a Pro, he's making leaps and bounds in progress'..? No. He still is yet to be ready as anNFL starter.
That's fair... Next step will be the post-snap reads.
Also fair... Those 1-5-5 Quarter looks JM was facing near game's end that are so hard to decipher. Half dozen guys in a tight box, none or one with hand on the ground.
What a joke our secondary is. It doesn't matter what team we're playing against or what offensive scheme we're playing against, it doesn't matter, none of it. If it is 3rd down and 50 the other team will convert on our secondary.
Someone's in mid-season form... time to dust off "the clip"...
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Pre Season
OL is causing some concern - I don't care that it's the Bill DL, they didn't look good.
1st half looked pretty bad, which is when most of Starters were playing.
2nd half looked better, but that's when the Whopper Floppers are playing against the Bus Drivers.
A few Players had some flashes.
Manziel is progressing, don't know if he'll make it, but he's making reads/audibles and an improved product versus what we had last year.
Bibbs better make this Team, kids got talent.
Lee's a keeper, second game I've seen him place some incredible Punts.
So far, Cooper is looking better than Orchard despite being Drafted later, but it's a learning process - they're both pluses.
Erving is getting moved all over the line . . . Jack of all Trades, Master of None applies too this point.
McCown played like I expected him to play last week, so he's regressed in that aspect.
West is Dancing and going East/West too much, I like Crow better but he wasn't stellar and seems to be behind West on the Depth Chart for some reason.
I said 8 - 8 this year . . . glad it's only Pre Season, cause right now it's not promising - too many injuries though to get a real good read.
Bibbs better make this Team, kids got talent.
West is Dancing and going East/West too much, I like Crow better but he wasn't stellar and seems to be behind West on the Depth Chart for some reason.
I think Bibbs and Barn are locks.
I think West got the "start" because he needed the work and they needed to see more of him due to his down time. Plus it sent a mini-message to Crow...
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In a nutshell, we got a ways to go. I'm only talk defense for now but it's clear that we're lacking real blue chip athletes. I get it that the Browns D was probably playing at 80%. But so was the Buffalo D. That Buffalo front 4, omg. Constant pressure AND run stopping with just the front 4 guys. Unreal. Those edges for the Bills are just on another food chain. They weren't even trying that hard and were just pushing our O line around. One of McCowns int's was cause of pressure on JT's side that was a simple simple stunt.
Our D in comparison looked a lot slower, less nimble, less powerful/explosive.....we needed our backcourt to even really make Tyrod blink. It's not a good sign tbh. But we'll see when the real games start.
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And what the hell was ONeil doing dropping Kruger back into man coverage? He promptly got burned by a TE on a critical 3rd down play. I hope they were just playing around cause Mingo's out. If I see Kruger dropping back and running with TE's on a consistent basis and getting burned, i'm not watching this. I'll come here and see how the seasons going from all the rage posting here.
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In a nutshell, we got a ways to go. I'm only talk defense for now but it's clear that we're lacking real blue chip athletes. I get it that the Browns D was probably playing at 80%. But so was the Buffalo D. That Buffalo front 4, omg. Constant pressure AND run stopping with just the front 4 guys. Unreal. Those edges for the Bills are just on another food chain. They weren't even trying that hard and were just pushing our O line around. One of McCowns int's was cause of pressure on JT's side that was a simple simple stunt.
Our D in comparison looked a lot slower, less nimble, less powerful/explosive.....we needed our backcourt to even really make Tyrod blink. It's not a good sign tbh. But we'll see when the real games start.
In a nutshell, we got a ways to go. I'm only talk defense for now but it's clear that we're lacking real blue chip athletes. I get it that the Browns D was probably playing at 80%. But so was the Buffalo D. That Buffalo front 4, omg. Constant pressure AND run stopping with just the front 4 guys. Unreal. Those edges for the Bills are just on another food chain. They weren't even trying that hard and were just pushing our O line around. One of McCowns int's was cause of pressure on JT's side that was a simple simple stunt.
Our D in comparison looked a lot slower, less nimble, less powerful/explosive.....we needed our backcourt to even really make Tyrod blink. It's not a good sign tbh. But we'll see when the real games start.
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The one that really surprised me was Shelton. I was all for drafting him, and still think it was a good play, but he looked to slow or not fast enough against the Bills #1 squad. I saw him tackle another Brown after the back was two yards past him.
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Shelton wasn't really mentioned too much and I did try and follow his plays. Didn't see much.
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