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  • Yeah, they should just forfeit now. They lost a lineman and are replacing him with another lineman. Season over I guess.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    Yeah, they should just forfeit now. They lost a lineman and are replacing him with another lineman. Season over I guess.

    like it was our downfall last season. you guys are done and we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

  • @trolling-for-dick said:

    Yeah, they should just forfeit now. They lost a lineman and are replacing him with another lineman. Season over I guess.

    like it was our downfall last season. you guys are done and we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    @miktoxic said:

    like it was our downfall last season. you guys are done and we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    Two very different teams my friend. Your downfall was more than Mack. You couldn't stop the run and you had no qb. This line is better than it was the last time he got hurt and they should be better able to hold the fort until he returns. They're now saying 6 to 8 weeks. Like I said, tough loss, great player, but they're better prepared. It will affect them though no doubt.

  • @mudfly said:

    PFF declares it too....

    Boykin has done ok in the slot, but has zero experience on the outside.....and it's a whole different animal out there.....

    And in re to Pouncey?......AaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHA.........oh well.....shit happens....

    I am still bummed about Pouncey going down. Such a good dude

    @riffer-x said:

    I am still bummed about Pouncey going down. Such a good dude

    It's ok, time heals all wounds.

  • @trolling-for-dick said:

    Yeah, they should just forfeit now. They lost a lineman and are replacing him with another lineman. Season over I guess.

    like it was our downfall last season. you guys are done and we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    @miktoxic said:

    ...we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    The Browns winning the conference? Did you bump your head?

  • @miktoxic said:

    ...we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    The Browns winning the conference? Did you bump your head?

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    The Browns winning the conference? Did you bump your head?

    HA!!

    many times my friend.

  • Well, like the stool fan says, they'll just replace him with another......

    Thats easy to do with an average center....but not a great center......

    So.....either he's great and, therefore, impossible to replace.....or he's not......cant have it both ways....

    Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

  • Well, like the stool fan says, they'll just replace him with another......

    Thats easy to do with an average center....but not a great center......

    So.....either he's great and, therefore, impossible to replace.....or he's not......cant have it both ways....

    Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    @mudfly said:

    Well, like the stool fan says, they'll just replace him with another......

    Thats easy to do with an average center....but not a great center......

    So.....either he's great and, therefore, impossible to replace.....or he's not......cant have it both ways....

    Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    The position is downgraded obviously. Cody Wallace was new to the team two years ago when it happened last time. I expect him to be better this time around. Just because he's not as good as the guy he's replacing doesn't mean he can't get the job done. You sure have a lot of confidence in your crystal ball considering Danny Shelton hasn't played a down of real NFL football yet. You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

  • @mudfly said:

    Well, like the stool fan says, they'll just replace him with another......

    Thats easy to do with an average center....but not a great center......

    So.....either he's great and, therefore, impossible to replace.....or he's not......cant have it both ways....

    Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    The position is downgraded obviously. Cody Wallace was new to the team two years ago when it happened last time. I expect him to be better this time around. Just because he's not as good as the guy he's replacing doesn't mean he can't get the job done. You sure have a lot of confidence in your crystal ball considering Danny Shelton hasn't played a down of real NFL football yet. You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    The position is downgraded obviously. Cody Wallace was new to the team two years ago when it happened last time. I expect him to be better this time around. Just because he's not as good as the guy he's replacing doesn't mean he can't get the job done. You sure have a lot of confidence in your crystal ball considering Danny Shelton hasn't played a down of real NFL football yet. You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    I havent annointed anyone as the second coming of Warren Sapp.....you're just writing fiction there......

    Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)....

    Cody Wallace was 6 years in the league before ever even starting a game(and didnt even make a team for his first 4 years.., until the stools signed him that is).....and in the 6 starts he's now had(over 7 years), has graded out as terrible almost every game....

    So, you can expect him to do well, but I cant expect Shelton to?......even though Shelton has already earned starter status?

    We shall see.....my money is on our guy.....

  • Queue Vag with "Cody Wallace is the best backup center in football and would start for anybody else besides the Teelers."

  • @trolling-for-dick said:

    The position is downgraded obviously. Cody Wallace was new to the team two years ago when it happened last time. I expect him to be better this time around. Just because he's not as good as the guy he's replacing doesn't mean he can't get the job done. You sure have a lot of confidence in your crystal ball considering Danny Shelton hasn't played a down of real NFL football yet. You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    I havent annointed anyone as the second coming of Warren Sapp.....you're just writing fiction there......

    Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)....

    Cody Wallace was 6 years in the league before ever even starting a game(and didnt even make a team for his first 4 years.., until the stools signed him that is).....and in the 6 starts he's now had(over 7 years), has graded out as terrible almost every game....

    So, you can expect him to do well, but I cant expect Shelton to?......even though Shelton has already earned starter status?

    We shall see.....my money is on our guy.....

    @mudfly said:

    I havent annointed anyone as the second coming of Warren Sapp.....you're just writing fiction there......

    Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)....

    Cody Wallace was 6 years in the league before ever even starting a game(and didnt even make a team for his first 4 years.., until the stools signed him that is).....and in the 6 starts he's now had(over 7 years), has graded out as terrible almost every game....

    So, you can expect him to do well, but I cant expect Shelton to?......even though Shelton has already earned starter status?

    We shall see.....my money is on our guy.....

    We will see. Wallace isn't Pouncey but I do expect him to be better than two years ago for reasons I've already stated. I think I've been pretty clear that it's a downgrade. That's obvious. That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

  • @mudfly said:

    Well, like the stool fan says, they'll just replace him with another......

    Thats easy to do with an average center....but not a great center......

    So.....either he's great and, therefore, impossible to replace.....or he's not......cant have it both ways....

    Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    The position is downgraded obviously. Cody Wallace was new to the team two years ago when it happened last time. I expect him to be better this time around. Just because he's not as good as the guy he's replacing doesn't mean he can't get the job done. You sure have a lot of confidence in your crystal ball considering Danny Shelton hasn't played a down of real NFL football yet. You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

    You just make shit up to feel better, eh?

  • @trolling-for-dick said:

    You might want to see him play before annointing him the second coming of Warren Sapp.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

    You just make shit up to feel better, eh?

    @mudfly said:

    You just make shit up to feel better, eh?

    what are you talking about?

  • Queue Vag with "Cody Wallace is the best backup center in football and would start for anybody else besides the Teelers."

    @riffer-x said:

    Queue Vag with "Cody Wallace is the best backup center in football and would start for anybody else besides the Teelers."

    yep....he's earned 6 starts in 7 years.......wow!

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    what are you talking about?

    where did I imply either of those things?....the real question is what are YOU talking about?.....Retard

  • @miktoxic said:

    like it was our downfall last season. you guys are done and we'll gladly step over your dead carcasses to take the conference crown this year.

    Two very different teams my friend. Your downfall was more than Mack. You couldn't stop the run and you had no qb. This line is better than it was the last time he got hurt and they should be better able to hold the fort until he returns. They're now saying 6 to 8 weeks. Like I said, tough loss, great player, but they're better prepared. It will affect them though no doubt.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    Two very different teams my friend. Your downfall was more than Mack. You couldn't stop the run and you had no qb. This line is better than it was the last time he got hurt and they should be better able to hold the fort until he returns. They're now saying 6 to 8 weeks. Like I said, tough loss, great player, but they're better prepared. It will affect them though no doubt.

    Well, the QB was playing well behind Mack.....but you are right, once Mack went out and his replacements were less than competent, our fragile QB did lose his confidence and the ability to perform the way he had earlier in the season. He just didn't have the self confidence to overcome that loss.

    And for the run....that is correct as well.....but people forget, that in addition to losing Mack, the Browns also lost like 2/3rds of their DL to injury. :

    DE Armonty Bryant on IR last 11 games

    DT/DE John Hughes on IR last 11 games

    DT Phil Taylor IR last 7 games

    DT Isma'aly Kitched out last several games, eventually placed on IR.

    Backup LB Darius Eubanks on IR most of season

    FS Tashaun Gipson (proven to be very good against the run) on IR the last 5 games.

    MLB Karlos Dansby also out for a couple of games and had to sit out a lot in games he was active

    The Browns were down to chewing gum and duct tape at the DT position last year, i.e. 3rd and 4th stringers. Sure they couldn't stop the run.

    I mean, again, you are right.....one starter/quality performer missing from a unit has an affect. No less 5 or 6 players on a unit.

  • @mudfly said:

    I havent annointed anyone as the second coming of Warren Sapp.....you're just writing fiction there......

    Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)....

    Cody Wallace was 6 years in the league before ever even starting a game(and didnt even make a team for his first 4 years.., until the stools signed him that is).....and in the 6 starts he's now had(over 7 years), has graded out as terrible almost every game....

    So, you can expect him to do well, but I cant expect Shelton to?......even though Shelton has already earned starter status?

    We shall see.....my money is on our guy.....

    We will see. Wallace isn't Pouncey but I do expect him to be better than two years ago for reasons I've already stated. I think I've been pretty clear that it's a downgrade. That's obvious. That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    We will see. Wallace isn't Pouncey but I do expect him to be better than two years ago for reasons I've already stated. I think I've been pretty clear that it's a downgrade. That's obvious. That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

    Sure, he is a rookie.....and I suspect Mike Munchak will know how to game plan for a rookie DT, no matter how good his potential is nor how injured the OL is. It will take some time. Yes, the Steelers will likely run wide on the Browns. In preseason THaT is where it appeared that their weakness was in the run game. If the Browns are too strong up the middle, go wide. An appropriate strategy.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Queue Vag with "Cody Wallace is the best backup center in football and would start for anybody else besides the Teelers."

    yep....he's earned 6 starts in 7 years.......wow!

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    what are you talking about?

    where did I imply either of those things?....the real question is what are YOU talking about?.....Retard

    @mudfly said:

    yep....he's earned 6 starts in 7 years.......wow!

    where did I imply either of those things?....the real question is what are YOU talking about?.....Retard

    First of all I don't know what Retard means. Please tell me. Secondly, it sounds like you've got your asshole hat on.

    You: Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)...

    You: Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    When you say that Shelton is going to handle Wallace easily it implies that Shelton is going to have a big game correct? Or does handling him easily mean he's going to to all Brady Quinn on his man parts?

    If you can't comprehend figurative speech when you make open ended statements like that then maybe I should talk down a little more.

  • Pouncey's absence will be felt... that's not in doubt. Just have to look at 2013 to see that. Only questions are the depth and duration of the pain.

  • @mudfly said:

    yep....he's earned 6 starts in 7 years.......wow!

    where did I imply either of those things?....the real question is what are YOU talking about?.....Retard

    First of all I don't know what Retard means. Please tell me. Secondly, it sounds like you've got your asshole hat on.

    You: Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)...

    You: Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    When you say that Shelton is going to handle Wallace easily it implies that Shelton is going to have a big game correct? Or does handling him easily mean he's going to to all Brady Quinn on his man parts?

    If you can't comprehend figurative speech when you make open ended statements like that then maybe I should talk down a little more.

    @trolling-for-dick said:

    First of all I don't know what Retard means. Please tell me. Secondly, it sounds like you've got your asshole hat on.

    You: Though Id be happy to wager that Shelton handles your guy Cody....(easily too)...

    You: Crystal ball says Danny Shelton will soon to meet the Rapist.......up close and personal.....

    When you say that Shelton is going to handle Wallace easily it implies that Shelton is going to have a big game correct? Or does handling him easily mean he's going to to all Brady Quinn on his man parts?

    If you can't comprehend figurative speech when you make open ended statements like that then maybe I should talk down a little more.

    Retard means that you are a Retard. (or, as they say in German: verzogern) And while I wouldn't make any predictions on particular statistics....I will say that any time that Wallace were to go up against Shelton, particularly in pass protection, it will be part of a double team. I suggest you will rarely see a one on one matchup there.

  • @trolling-for-dick said:

    We will see. Wallace isn't Pouncey but I do expect him to be better than two years ago for reasons I've already stated. I think I've been pretty clear that it's a downgrade. That's obvious. That doesn't mean Shelton is going to have 3 sacks and 10 tackles. We'll have to wait and see.

    Sure, he is a rookie.....and I suspect Mike Munchak will know how to game plan for a rookie DT, no matter how good his potential is nor how injured the OL is. It will take some time. Yes, the Steelers will likely run wide on the Browns. In preseason THaT is where it appeared that their weakness was in the run game. If the Browns are too strong up the middle, go wide. An appropriate strategy.

    @the-gipper said:

    Sure, he is a rookie.....and I suspect Mike Munchak will know how to game plan for a rookie DT, no matter how good his potential is nor how injured the OL is. It will take some time. Yes, the Steelers will likely run wide on the Browns. In preseason THaT is where it appeared that their weakness was in the run game. If the Browns are too strong up the middle, go wide. An appropriate strategy.

    I've watched both Browns games so far and I saw Sheldon bull rush a gap on the first play of the second game. Other than that nothing stood out. He's a big strong guy in a league of big strong guys. He's also a rookie and he's got a lot to learn like you said. He'll make a few plays here and there but if he handles Wallace "easily" like Mudflaps says I'll be right here to eat crow. Maybe Mudflap needs to explain what "easily" means.

  • Pouncey's absence will be felt... that's not in doubt. Just have to look at 2013 to see that. Only questions are the depth and duration of the pain.

    @tour2ma said:

    Pouncey's absence will be felt... that's not in doubt. Just have to look at 2013 to see that. Only questions are the depth and duration of the pain.

    Agreed. Why I'm not as down about it as some is this has happened before and the offense in general is just better than the last time. They have 3 weeks to prepare for the regular season unlike when it happened during week 1 the last time. Hey, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time. In my opinion they're better prepared to handle it. That's really all I'm saying.