Who is the best in the AFCN
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gotta back up what the dick troller says about AJ Green though....cause he drops a TON of passes.....way way more than both these guys together....plus, like he said, he gives up a ton more interceptions too.....
in 2013:
Drops = Brown 9,,,,Gordon 9....Green 11
Ints = Brown 3....Gordon 2....Green 12
TD's = Brown 8....Gordon 9....Green 11
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Except Brown drops exactly the same amount as Gordon.....so, if your gonna argue a point, its best to argue a valid one.....
2012 Brown had 4 drops to Gordons same 4 drops.....
2013 Brown had 8 drops to Gordons 9 drops.....
so 1 more dropped ball by Gordon....HUGE difference, eh?...
lest we forget that Gordon gained 5 yards more per catch X 100+ catches = 500 extra yards of production o the same #of catches...
which is almost 2 whole games of offense...less 1 drop.....so there's that too.....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_o_1.html
Also, what's their drop rate? How many drops per target? Any difference?
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_o_1.html
Also, what's their drop rate? How many drops per target? Any difference?
Last year AB had 5 drops.....in 181 targets.
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Except Brown drops exactly the same amount as Gordon.....so, if your gonna argue a point, its best to argue a valid one.....
2012 Brown had 4 drops to Gordons same 4 drops.....
2013 Brown had 8 drops to Gordons 9 drops.....
so 1 more dropped ball by Gordon....HUGE difference, eh?...
lest we forget that Gordon gained 5 yards more per catch X 100+ catches = 500 extra yards of production o the same #of catches...
which is almost 2 whole games of offense...less 1 drop.....so there's that too.....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_o_1.html
Also, what's their drop rate? How many drops per target? Any difference?
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_o_1.html
Also, what's their drop rate? How many drops per target? Any difference?
Less than 1% difference both years.....Gordon got one year...Brown got the other.....they are the exact same....
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gotta back up what the dick troller says about AJ Green though....cause he drops a TON of passes.....way way more than both these guys together....plus, like he said, he gives up a ton more interceptions too.....
in 2013:
Drops = Brown 9,,,,Gordon 9....Green 11
Ints = Brown 3....Gordon 2....Green 12
TD's = Brown 8....Gordon 9....Green 11
gotta back up what the dick troller says about AJ Green though....cause he drops a TON of passes.....way way more than both these guys together....plus, like he said, he gives up a ton more interceptions too.....
in 2013:
Drops = Brown 9,,,,Gordon 9....Green 11
Ints = Brown 3....Gordon 2....Green 12
TD's = Brown 8....Gordon 9....Green 11
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gotta back up what the dick troller says about AJ Green though....cause he drops a TON of passes.....way way more than both these guys together....plus, like he said, he gives up a ton more interceptions too.....
in 2013:
Drops = Brown 9,,,,Gordon 9....Green 11
Ints = Brown 3....Gordon 2....Green 12
TD's = Brown 8....Gordon 9....Green 11
In 2012 Gordon's catch rate was 53%. AB was 63%.
In 2013 Gordon's catch rate was 55%. AB was 66%.
IN 2014 Gordon's catch rate was 0.00%. AB was 71%
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So this has turned into Smoky vs AB. That's an easy choice. I'd still take Megatron, but only for the next couple of years
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ahhh....but, if you break it down.....Browns catches are almost all dunk passes less than 20 yards, while Gordon is a deep receiver...
Measure the 20 yds plus balls and Gordon is king....measure the 20 yards and less balls and Brown is king....
Look at Browns catch percentage on passes over 20 and he's not even close.....(18.8%)....
dink and dunk.....
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So this has turned into Smoky vs AB. That's an easy choice. I'd still take Megatron, but only for the next couple of years
So this has turned into Smoky vs AB. That's an easy choice. I'd still take Megatron, but only for the next couple of years
Honestly....I dont care which is better....matters not to me.....
was really just trying to correct Dick heads argument that Gordon was known for dropping passes......which was not true.....
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So this has turned into Smoky vs AB. That's an easy choice. I'd still take Megatron, but only for the next couple of years
Honestly....I dont care which is better....matters not to me.....
was really just trying to correct Dick heads argument that Gordon was known for dropping passes......which was not true.....
Honestly....I dont care which is better....matters not to me.....
was really just trying to correct Dick heads argument that Gordon was known for dropping passes......which was not true.....
It is true jizzlips. Anyway, no one is going to convince the other who's better anyway. One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
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I would also add that Brown dropped an easy TD last year against the bucs.... woulda won the game too....
so, not only does he drop em....he drops the ones that count.....
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In 2012 Gordon's catch rate was 53%. AB was 63%.
In 2013 Gordon's catch rate was 55%. AB was 66%.
IN 2014 Gordon's catch rate was 0.00%. AB was 71%
In 2012 Gordon's catch rate was 53%. AB was 63%.
In 2013 Gordon's catch rate was 55%. AB was 66%.
IN 2014 Gordon's catch rate was 0.00%. AB was 71%
Yea, compare BRs completion pct. to those of the Browns QBs. 95% of that statistic is on the QB.
And Gordon did have 24 catches in 2013....so we have to question WTF source you are using for that.
In 2014 he was targeted 47 times, caught 24 for 51.1%.
See how good ABs catch rate would have been with Weeden/Campbell/Hoyer/Manziel throwing to him.
I mean....really....do you not get that?
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Honestly....I dont care which is better....matters not to me.....
was really just trying to correct Dick heads argument that Gordon was known for dropping passes......which was not true.....
It is true jizzlips. Anyway, no one is going to convince the other who's better anyway. One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
It is true jizzlips. ....... One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
95% of that statistic is on the QB.
and short passing game....
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Honestly....I dont care which is better....matters not to me.....
was really just trying to correct Dick heads argument that Gordon was known for dropping passes......which was not true.....
It is true jizzlips. Anyway, no one is going to convince the other who's better anyway. One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
It is true jizzlips. Anyway, no one is going to convince the other who's better anyway. One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Well, maybe we can agree that AB was better at catching the dinks and dunks, and Gordon better at catching the long balls.
Comparing their YPC over the last 3 years:
2012 Gordon: 16.1, Brown 11.9
2013 Gordon: 18.9, Brown 13.6
2014 Gordon: 12.6, Brown 13.2.
In Gordon's shithole of a season he nearly matches Brown's great season.
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Here is where you win TFD: In 2015 Antonio Brown will be playing, Josh Gordon will not.
Take that victory and run with it.
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It is true jizzlips. ....... One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
95% of that statistic is on the QB.
and short passing game....
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_josh_gordon_o_1.html
Also, what's their drop rate? How many drops per target? Any difference?
Less than 1% difference both years.....Gordon got one year...Brown got the other.....they are the exact same....
Less than 1% difference both years.....Gordon got one year...Brown got the other.....they are the exact same....
2012 AB was targeted 106 times and had a 3.8% drop rate. Gordon was targeted 95 and had a 5.3% drop rate.
2013 AB was targeted 166 times and had a 4.2% drop rate. Gordon was targeted 159 and had a 5.0% drop rate.
2014 AB was targeted 181 times and had a 2.8% drop rate. Gordon was targeted 47 and had a 4.3% drop rate.
AB's worst year was better than Gordon's best. Just saying.
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It is true jizzlips. ....... One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
95% of that statistic is on the QB.
and short passing game....
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
and short passing game....
Yeah, I make shit up pecker. See above.
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It is true jizzlips. ....... One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
95% of that statistic is on the QB.
and short passing game....
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
and short passing game....
Go look up the Steelers stats and tell me again it's a short passing game.
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It is true jizzlips. ....... One of the players doesn't play anymore so the argument is moot.
Um, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
95% of that statistic is on the QB.
and short passing game....
I remember JG dropping one game winner his rookie season. I thought Haslem was going to stroke out in his skyboxUm, I already showed that they drop at the same rate...and Brown dropped a game winner....see the film above....
You're the one whos been here for hours debating it....I just tried to provide some real stats for ya, since you like to make shit up....and, you, as usual, debate facts like they dont count....
If its moot, why have you spent hours debating it?.....oh yeah, thats what you trolls do....come here and argue and argue and argue.....like its a sport all on its own.....
and short passing game....
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Stat...........Brown.................................Gordon.......Gordon projected if he has same # of games
Seasons.....5........................................3
Games........70......................................35................70
Targets......597......................................302.............604
Receptions 390.....................................163............326
Percent......65.5....................................53.3...........same
Yards........5259....................................2754..........5508
TDs............28.......................................14..............28
YPC........ 13.5...................................17.1..........same
CPG.........5.6......................................4.6..........same
YPG.........75.1....................................78.7.........same
Fumbles....8.........................................1..............2
Rushing...25 atts./82 yds/3.3 ypa.... ..5 atts/88 yds/17.6 ypa.....10 atts/176 yds/same
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