PFF's Ranking the NFL Top Ten QB's
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T1. Brady/Rodgers
3. Romo
4. Manning
5. Brees
6. Rapist
7. Flacco
8. Luck
9. Rivers
10. Ryan
Romo gets a bad rap, but he is a great qb. Eli, Rapist, and Wilson benefitted from great defenses. Rapist had a passer rating of 9, NINE, in his first Super Bowl win.
Peyton is a shell of what he once was, and Brees is also on the down slope.
T1. Brady/Rodgers
3. Romo
4. Manning
5. Brees
6. Rapist
7. Flacco
8. Luck
9. Rivers
10. Ryan
Romo gets a bad rap, but he is a great qb. Eli, Rapist, and Wilson benefitted from great defenses. Rapist had a passer rating of 9, NINE, in his first Super Bowl win.
Peyton is a shell of what he once was, and Brees is also on the down slope.
Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
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Top Ten:
1 Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Brees
5. Roethisberger
6. Luck
7. Wilson
8. Flacco
9. Rivers
10. Newton
Next :
11. Eli
12. Kaepernick
13. Palmer
14. Foles
15. Romo
16. Ryan
17. Dalton
18. Carr
19. Tw-Tw-Twatwater
20. Alex Smith
21. Cutler
22. Bortles
23. Tannehill
24. Cassell
25. McCown
26. Hoyer
27. Bradford
28. Fitzpatrick
29. RGII
30. Winston
31. Mariota
....and I missed one.
I think, Stafford....who should go in between Foles and Romo.
Top Ten:
1 Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Brees
5. Roethisberger
6. Luck
7. Wilson
8. Flacco
9. Rivers
10. Newton
Next :
11. Eli
12. Kaepernick
13. Palmer
14. Foles
15. Romo
16. Ryan
17. Dalton
18. Carr
19. Tw-Tw-Twatwater
20. Alex Smith
21. Cutler
22. Bortles
23. Tannehill
24. Cassell
25. McCown
26. Hoyer
27. Bradford
28. Fitzpatrick
29. RGII
30. Winston
31. Mariota
....and I missed one.
I think, Stafford....who should go in between Foles and Romo.
I like Ben in the middle of the top 10 as well. The only thing I would change is switch Hoyer and McCown. From what I've been hearing, Hoyer has impressed in camp. Was named the starter.
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T1. Brady/Rodgers
3. Romo
4. Manning
5. Brees
6. Rapist
7. Flacco
8. Luck
9. Rivers
10. Ryan
Romo gets a bad rap, but he is a great qb. Eli, Rapist, and Wilson benefitted from great defenses. Rapist had a passer rating of 9, NINE, in his first Super Bowl win.
Peyton is a shell of what he once was, and Brees is also on the down slope.
Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
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Top Ten:
1 Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Brees
5. Roethisberger
6. Luck
7. Wilson
8. Flacco
9. Rivers
10. Newton
Next :
11. Eli
12. Kaepernick
13. Palmer
14. Foles
15. Romo
16. Ryan
17. Dalton
18. Carr
19. Tw-Tw-Twatwater
20. Alex Smith
21. Cutler
22. Bortles
23. Tannehill
24. Cassell
25. McCown
26. Hoyer
27. Bradford
28. Fitzpatrick
29. RGII
30. Winston
31. Mariota
....and I missed one.
I think, Stafford....who should go in between Foles and Romo.
I like Ben in the middle of the top 10 as well. The only thing I would change is switch Hoyer and McCown. From what I've been hearing, Hoyer has impressed in camp. Was named the starter.
I like Ben in the middle of the top 10 as well. The only thing I would change is switch Hoyer and McCown. From what I've been hearing, Hoyer has impressed in camp. Was named the starter.
When we get down that low it is quibbling. I thought about switching them....but felt it didn't matter.
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Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
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Only a dumbass would say the number 2 all time passer rating qb isn't great. Give him a good defense and he wins a Super Bowl or 2. Don't listen to me, though. Listen to every analyst on TV that used to play qb. Dilfer, Young, Aikman, Marino, Esiason, Simms - they acknowledge how good Romo is.
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Only a dumbass would say the number 2 all time passer rating qb isn't great. Give him a good defense and he wins a Super Bowl or 2. Don't listen to me, though. Listen to every analyst on TV that used to play qb. Dilfer, Young, Aikman, Marino, Esiason, Simms - they acknowledge how good Romo is.
Only a dumbass would say the number 2 all time passer rating qb isn't great. Give him a good defense and he wins a Super Bowl or 2. Don't listen to me, though. Listen to every analyst on TV that used to play qb. Dilfer, Young, Aikman, Marino, Esiason, Simms - they acknowledge how good Romo is.
Only a dumbass would put that much stock into passer rating. Chad Pennington and Jeff Garcia are also very high on that list. OK, I will give you that Romo is in a class with those two.
You used the term "great".....and that just does not apply to him. He is just "good". And Romo isn't as good as any of the names you just used....except Dilfer.
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This Tony Romo:
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Um, passer rating and qbr is how you judge qb's. Romo doesn't play defense.
Russell Wilson is a good kid and a good qb, and people like you will say he's a better qb than Romo because he "won" a Super Bowl.
The reality is football is a team game, and Wilson has benefitted from one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. He is nowhere near the qb that Romo is. Romo has suffered through horrible defenses and a non-existent running game for much of his career, but gets all the blame for every 8-8 season, when without him they would be 3-13 those seasons.
Last season, Dallas was 19th in team defense, and still were 1 play away from the nfc championship game. The only playoff teams with worse defenses were Arizona and Cincy.
Believe what you want to believe. You're far from the only person that thinks Romo's not good. When he retires, his numbers will be huge, but he will always be knocked for not winning the big one.
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Um, passer rating and qbr is how you judge qb's. Romo doesn't play defense.
Russell Wilson is a good kid and a good qb, and people like you will say he's a better qb than Romo because he "won" a Super Bowl.
The reality is football is a team game, and Wilson has benefitted from one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. He is nowhere near the qb that Romo is. Romo has suffered through horrible defenses and a non-existent running game for much of his career, but gets all the blame for every 8-8 season, when without him they would be 3-13 those seasons.
Last season, Dallas was 19th in team defense, and still were 1 play away from the nfc championship game. The only playoff teams with worse defenses were Arizona and Cincy.
Believe what you want to believe. You're far from the only person that thinks Romo's not good. When he retires, his numbers will be huge, but he will always be knocked for not winning the big one.
When he retires, his numbers will be huge, but he will always be knocked for not winning the big one.
So, you're giving up?
Zombo
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Bernie Kosar and Neil O'Donnell are both 81.8.
WSS
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When he retires, his numbers will be huge, but he will always be knocked for not winning the big one.
So, you're giving up?
Zombo
Zombo said:
So, you're giving up?
Zombo
Not giving up, just being realistic. It's hard to win a Super Bowl, odds are against him. And he is getting older, no doubt. I'm pretty sure he already holds most of the cowboy passing records, we'll see what happens.
As I said last year, I'd love to see a Browns-Cowboys Super Bowl.
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This Tony Romo:
This Tony Romo:
Btw, I like that commercial, I think it's pretty funny. But I knew he would take a lot of heat for it. He is a really good guy, and I hate all the flak he gets - mostly from Cowboy fans.
Good story about him. They beat the Browns in Cleveland in 2008, but he got levelled and got 13 stitches in his chin. Back in Dallas after the flight home, he pulled over and helped a stranded elderly couple fix their flat tire. The old man told him not to tell them if they won, because he was on his way home to watch the the recorded game.
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This Tony Romo:
Btw, I like that commercial, I think it's pretty funny. But I knew he would take a lot of heat for it. He is a really good guy, and I hate all the flak he gets - mostly from Cowboy fans.
Good story about him. They beat the Browns in Cleveland in 2008, but he got levelled and got 13 stitches in his chin. Back in Dallas after the flight home, he pulled over and helped a stranded elderly couple fix their flat tire. The old man told him not to tell them if they won, because he was on his way home to watch the the recorded game.
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.Btw, I like that commercial, I think it's pretty funny. But I knew he would take a lot of heat for it. He is a really good guy, and I hate all the flak he gets - mostly from Cowboy fans.
Good story about him. They beat the Browns in Cleveland in 2008, but he got levelled and got 13 stitches in his chin. Back in Dallas after the flight home, he pulled over and helped a stranded elderly couple fix their flat tire. The old man told him not to tell them if they won, because he was on his way home to watch the the recorded game.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QBs
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
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Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.Btw, I like that commercial, I think it's pretty funny. But I knew he would take a lot of heat for it. He is a really good guy, and I hate all the flak he gets - mostly from Cowboy fans.
Good story about him. They beat the Browns in Cleveland in 2008, but he got levelled and got 13 stitches in his chin. Back in Dallas after the flight home, he pulled over and helped a stranded elderly couple fix their flat tire. The old man told him not to tell them if they won, because he was on his way home to watch the the recorded game.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QBs
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
Zombo said:
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QB
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
1. I understand the cowboy hate.
2. I understand the jj hate. I don't like him either.
3. I'm not obsessed, just like jm and hope he does well.
I don't even care what other fans say, I mostly defend Romo to other cowboy fans. Probably a majority of cowboy fans think of Romo the way gipper does. Sad but true.
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Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.Btw, I like that commercial, I think it's pretty funny. But I knew he would take a lot of heat for it. He is a really good guy, and I hate all the flak he gets - mostly from Cowboy fans.
Good story about him. They beat the Browns in Cleveland in 2008, but he got levelled and got 13 stitches in his chin. Back in Dallas after the flight home, he pulled over and helped a stranded elderly couple fix their flat tire. The old man told him not to tell them if they won, because he was on his way home to watch the the recorded game.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QBs
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
Zombo said:
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QBs
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
Personally I hate the Eagles almost as bad...
WSS
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Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
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Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Rivers is really good, I agree. Dalton, meh.
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Zombo said:
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QB
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
1. I understand the cowboy hate.
2. I understand the jj hate. I don't like him either.
3. I'm not obsessed, just like jm and hope he does well.
I don't even care what other fans say, I mostly defend Romo to other cowboy fans. Probably a majority of cowboy fans think of Romo the way gipper does. Sad but true.
1. I understand the cowboy hate.
2. I understand the jj hate. I don't like him either.
3. I'm not obsessed, just like jm and hope he does well.
I don't even care what other fans say, I mostly defend Romo to other cowboy fans. Probably a majority of cowboy fans think of Romo the way gipper does. Sad but true.
Romo, to me, holds about the same status as Andy Dalton, Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan. Good QBs...not Championship QBs.
So, he has a better passer rating than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees....and I have to think that he is great because you told me so?
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