Joe Thomas on Deflategate
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"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
On whether commissioner Roger Goodell overstepped his bounds and might have been on a witch hunt:
“Oh no doubt. I don’t know if he just doesn’t understand the game of football itself, or if there was a deeper motive to get (them) back for all the other rumors and suspicions of cheating that the Patriots have done. But if you’re going to suspend a guy for removing air from the football, to me it’s completely ridiculous.”
On his feelings on whether the Ted Wells report was fair:
“The league paid him.” (Thomas then compared the report to an “expert” witnesses being paid for testimony during criminal trials.)
"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
If Tom Brady went to Ohio State - wouldn't you be telling us all he had to do was cooperate and there would have only been a fine? Anyone who gets pulled over for going 66 mph in a 65 mph speed zone knows it's in their best interest to cooperate.
I don't feel sorry for him. When 32 training camps were getting started, all we heard about was this Tom Brady bullshit.
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"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
If Tom Brady went to Ohio State - wouldn't you be telling us all he had to do was cooperate and there would have only been a fine? Anyone who gets pulled over for going 66 mph in a 65 mph speed zone knows it's in their best interest to cooperate.
I don't feel sorry for him. When 32 training camps were getting started, all we heard about was this Tom Brady bullshit.
1) If he went to OSU, would the majority of you flip sides? See, that works both ways. Deal with the facts, not what biases you think I may haveIf Tom Brady went to Ohio State - wouldn't you be telling us all he had to do was cooperate and there would have only been a fine? Anyone who gets pulled over for going 66 mph in a 65 mph speed zone knows it's in their best interest to cooperate.
I don't feel sorry for him. When 32 training camps were getting started, all we heard about was this Tom Brady bullshit.
2) He was told he did not have to turn over his phone and was told no punishment would come in refusing to do so. He also offered to help the NFL track down any missing info or contacts they may need. The suggestion to not turn the phone over came from the union, as to not set a precedent. Where did he not cooperate?
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1) If he went to OSU, would the majority of you flip sides? See, that works both ways. Deal with the facts, not what biases you think I may haveIf Tom Brady went to Ohio State - wouldn't you be telling us all he had to do was cooperate and there would have only been a fine? Anyone who gets pulled over for going 66 mph in a 65 mph speed zone knows it's in their best interest to cooperate.
I don't feel sorry for him. When 32 training camps were getting started, all we heard about was this Tom Brady bullshit.
2) He was told he did not have to turn over his phone and was told no punishment would come in refusing to do so. He also offered to help the NFL track down any missing info or contacts they may need. The suggestion to not turn the phone over came from the union, as to not set a precedent. Where did he not cooperate?
1) If he went to OSU, would the majority of you flip sides? See, that works both ways. Deal with the facts, not what biases you think I may have
2) He was told he did not have to turn over his phone and was told no punishment would come in refusing to do so. He also offered to help the NFL track down any missing info or contacts they may need. The suggestion to not turn the phone over came from the union, as to not set a precedent. Where did he not cooperate?
You know what Brady is gonna say to you Mr. Michigan fan? "See ya week 5".
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Well, Woodpecker is pecking and pecking again.
who told Brady he didn't have to turn over his phone? The owner of the Patriots?
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Well, Woodpecker is pecking and pecking again.
who told Brady he didn't have to turn over his phone? The owner of the Patriots?
Well, Woodpecker is pecking and pecking again.
who told Brady he didn't have to turn over his phone? The owner of the Patriots?
Why would the owner of the Patriots tell Brady he doesn't have to turn over his phone?
The investigators in the Wells report asked for it, but told Brady no punishment would come from refusing to hand over the phone. Brady then later provided detailed logs of texts and phone calls. He even offered to help retrieve them from the phone company. The Union did not want Brady turning over the phone as it would have set a precedent they weren't looking to set.
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The investigators weren't in charge of the suspension.
It gets worse and worse for Brasdy. The phone Brady used BEFORE he had one
destroyed on March 6th..... was never destroyed.
So, Brady lied when he said he does the phone destroying thing all the time.
And, logs of calls? There aren't message content in logs of calls. They said
they even tried to go retrieve the content of the messages. ha. Content of
txts would be saved? Of course not. Emails would still remain on a server.
I'm sure he would never haved used email for the deflate nonsense. He would
only have used txting, and the only content was on a destroyed phone.
Not buyin it.
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/tom-brady-did-not-destroy-old-phone-before-deflategate/268646
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http://larrybrownsports.com/football/tom-brady-turned-over-emails-cell-phone-records/268756
“To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested,” Brady wrote. “We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone.
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1. Joe Thomas is right about the incident being blown out of proportion - but it allows the commish and the NFL to look "tough on crime" and do a little chest thumping.
2. The USFL once won a blockbuster suit in Federal Court against the NFL. Perhaps Brady will be able to piggyback on that.
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I can't believe this is still a talking point, whether Brady serves the suspension or not, the patriots are a playoff team. The fact that people still give a fuck about this old, worn out story boggles the mind...
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all i know is if i'm a big bad MFer and captain of a team and i want to pick a fight with someone from the other team, i don't use some model citizen type clean as a whistle GQ married to super model loved by millions outside football guy to do it with. you might win on legality because legality is something written down but in the public eye you WILL be wearing shit soon after anything happens.
goodell=pontius pilate.
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"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
On whether commissioner Roger Goodell overstepped his bounds and might have been on a witch hunt:
“Oh no doubt. I don’t know if he just doesn’t understand the game of football itself, or if there was a deeper motive to get (them) back for all the other rumors and suspicions of cheating that the Patriots have done. But if you’re going to suspend a guy for removing air from the football, to me it’s completely ridiculous.”
On his feelings on whether the Ted Wells report was fair:
“The league paid him.” (Thomas then compared the report to an “expert” witnesses being paid for testimony during criminal trials.)
"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
On whether commissioner Roger Goodell overstepped his bounds and might have been on a witch hunt:
“Oh no doubt. I don’t know if he just doesn’t understand the game of football itself, or if there was a deeper motive to get (them) back for all the other rumors and suspicions of cheating that the Patriots have done. But if you’re going to suspend a guy for removing air from the football, to me it’s completely ridiculous.”
On his feelings on whether the Ted Wells report was fair:
“The league paid him.” (Thomas then compared the report to an “expert” witnesses being paid for testimony during criminal trials.)
Joe Thomas is a god, unless of course his opinion is different than mine.
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VesnaKociper said:
How come nobody is talking about Seattle? Those guys are the ones who had their balls deflated.
OK, let's talk Seattle:
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Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
I disagree that is was very similar. The guy was adding a brush to protect his fingers, not get a competitive advantage, so no reason to suspect Feeley.
Pats were deflating balls for competitive reasons ... NOT that I think it is a big deal, I find the whole thing laughable ... but not similar IMO.
Zombo
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Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
How gay! So now you're using Touchy-Feely to get to your next episode of poor Tom Brady? They've already re-invented the tuck rule to benefit him and the Patriots almost like the NFL conveniently forgot about how far down field you could press WRs (AFC Championship Game where NE hosted Indy). Pretty strange how the NFL had to dig so deep to forget 1 rule existed while they had to dig even deeper to remember another rule they've rarely enforced as the playoffs are unfolding. In Cleveland, they don't erase things like "Red Right" or "The Fumble." If Tom Brady is fumbling the game away - totally different story.
Poor NE and Tom Brady!
Can we please stop all other NFL news for another 3-4 months so we can hear more about why poor NE needs to get away with this? And how exciting would an appeal be? Good Lord!
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