PFF's Ranking the NFL Top Ten QB's
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Not under any circumstance is Romo a "great QB". And he is not that much younger than Brees....only @15 months:
Brees born 1/15/79, Romo 4/21/80. He is older than Vick/BR/Eli/Rivers/Palmer.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
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Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Rivers is really good, I agree. Dalton, meh.
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Zombo said:
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QB
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
1. I understand the cowboy hate.
2. I understand the jj hate. I don't like him either.
3. I'm not obsessed, just like jm and hope he does well.
I don't even care what other fans say, I mostly defend Romo to other cowboy fans. Probably a majority of cowboy fans think of Romo the way gipper does. Sad but true.
1. I understand the cowboy hate.
2. I understand the jj hate. I don't like him either.
3. I'm not obsessed, just like jm and hope he does well.
I don't even care what other fans say, I mostly defend Romo to other cowboy fans. Probably a majority of cowboy fans think of Romo the way gipper does. Sad but true.
Romo, to me, holds about the same status as Andy Dalton, Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan. Good QBs...not Championship QBs.
So, he has a better passer rating than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees....and I have to think that he is great because you told me so?
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Top 5 career passer rating leaders:
1. Rodgers
2. Romo
3. Manning
4. Young
5. Brady
Yeah, I would hate to be in that group. He's also 14th in career 4th quarter comebacks.
He lead the league in qbr last year and was a Dez Bryant "drop" away from playing Seattle in the nfc championship game. He did this with a back so bad he rarely practiced.
His back is much better this year, which is why I put him 3rd.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Only a sychophant homer would put Romo up there.
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Well, I think performing in the clutch is an aspect of a great QB. Failure to perform in the clutch is an aspect of a not so great QB.
Whatever Eli is....he is a QB who has shown he can perform in the clutch.
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Romo has a great QBR I'll grant you that. But in passing yards- Palmer, and even Matt Hasselback are ahead in yards. BTW- so is Phil Rivers, and if I'm picking a team- I take Rivers before Tony. Injuries are no excuse if we're talking "best of".
Zombo said it best there's plenty of Cowboy hate outside of Texas. Romo suffers Andy Dalton syndrome- mediocre record in the playoffs. That's why Eli Manning gets praise- with his 82 qbr and 2 Super Bowl wins.
Well, I think performing in the clutch is an aspect of a great QB. Failure to perform in the clutch is an aspect of a not so great QB.
Whatever Eli is....he is a QB who has shown he can perform in the clutch.
So Eli is better than Peyton, right?Well, I think performing in the clutch is an aspect of a great QB. Failure to perform in the clutch is an aspect of a not so great QB.
Whatever Eli is....he is a QB who has shown he can perform in the clutch.
And definitely better than Marino. That guy never won it all, he must have sucked in the clutch, right?
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Zombo said:
Tony Romo is a good guy and an excellent quarterback, if have him rated much higher than Gipper.
But I understand why your rivals bag on him, and here's why:
1. Everybody hates the Cowboys.
2. Everybody hates Jerry Jones.
3. You Texas homos have an unhealthy obsession with your QBs
If I was in your division, I would bag on Romo just to see you cry.
All these Johnny creeps that are in here now is weird. We are trying to talk objectively about our QB and we can't do it without you smitten kittens getting overproteective and acting like little cheerleaders. And your over the top defense of Romo in this thread is further proof of the gayass obsessions you nerds have on your QBs.
If I were an Eagle fan I would mock Romo so hard that you'd have to stay home from schpool just to defend him all day.
Z
Personally I hate the Eagles almost as bad...
WSS
Personally I hate the Eagles almost as bad...
WSS
OK, Jeff Lebowski.
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So Eli is better than Peyton, right?Well, I think performing in the clutch is an aspect of a great QB. Failure to perform in the clutch is an aspect of a not so great QB.
Whatever Eli is....he is a QB who has shown he can perform in the clutch.
And definitely better than Marino. That guy never won it all, he must have sucked in the clutch, right?
So Eli is better than Peyton, right?
And definitely better than Marino. That guy never won it all, he must have sucked in the clutch, right?
No, that is not it necessarily. The simple fact is that Romo isn't as good as you think he is. You only believe it because you are a Cowboy fan.
(Psst.....here's another clue: Johnny ain't as good as you think he is either. I wish he were.)
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Personally I hate the Eagles almost as bad...
WSS
OK, Jeff Lebowski.
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Excellent give her!
WSS
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This by Raven's douchebags:
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And this is supposedly Steeler hate for the Ravens.
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Here is a Falcon fan calling the Bengals week.....pretty funny....pretty unbelievable.
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So Eli is better than Peyton, right?
And definitely better than Marino. That guy never won it all, he must have sucked in the clutch, right?
No, that is not it necessarily. The simple fact is that Romo isn't as good as you think he is. You only believe it because you are a Cowboy fan.
(Psst.....here's another clue: Johnny ain't as good as you think he is either. I wish he were.)
No, that is not it necessarily. The simple fact is that Romo isn't as good as you think he is. You only believe it because you are a Cowboy fan.
(Psst.....here's another clue: Johnny ain't as good as you think he is either. I wish he were.)
I've already told you most cowboy fans hate Romo. I think Romo is good because the numbers back me up, as I've shown. All you've done is put up a picture of Romo from a commercial.
Eli won 2 Super Bowls because the Giants defense went on a tear twice, and had a dominant pass rush. That defense held the Patriots to 14 and 17 points and had Brady running for his life. Way to go, Eli.
Johnny was the greatest COLLEGE football player I've ever seen. He was terrible last year, and hopefully he gets better.
If he gets to be nearly as good as Romo, all Browns fans will be ecstatic.
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No, that is not it necessarily. The simple fact is that Romo isn't as good as you think he is. You only believe it because you are a Cowboy fan.
(Psst.....here's another clue: Johnny ain't as good as you think he is either. I wish he were.)
I've already told you most cowboy fans hate Romo. I think Romo is good because the numbers back me up, as I've shown. All you've done is put up a picture of Romo from a commercial.
Eli won 2 Super Bowls because the Giants defense went on a tear twice, and had a dominant pass rush. That defense held the Patriots to 14 and 17 points and had Brady running for his life. Way to go, Eli.
Johnny was the greatest COLLEGE football player I've ever seen. He was terrible last year, and hopefully he gets better.
If he gets to be nearly as good as Romo, all Browns fans will be ecstatic.
I've already told you most cowboy fans hate Romo. I think Romo is good because the numbers back me up, as I've shown. All you've done is put up a picture of Romo from a commercial.
Eli won 2 Super Bowls because the Giants defense went on a tear twice, and had a dominant pass rush. That defense held the Patriots to 14 and 17 points and had Brady running for his life. Way to go, Eli.
Johnny was the greatest COLLEGE football player I've ever seen. He was terrible last year, and hopefully he gets better.
If he gets to be nearly as good as Romo, all Browns fans will be ecstatic.
Sure.....I said Romo is a good QB.....just not a great QB. If Johnny got to the point of being "good", yes, I would take it out of him at this point.
And most Super Bowl winning teams throughout history has a combination of a good QB and a good defense. Name any SB winner that didn't have a good defense.
And you must be very very young if Johnny is the greatest college football player you have ever seen.
(but then....I am sure I go back a lot further than you...I saw the likes of Joe Namath and Roger Staubach play in college....not to mention the likes of OJ Simpson, Archie Griffin, Earl Campbell and many others.)
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Don't forget Tommie Frazier, Reggie Bush, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Tim Tebow, all great college players.
None of those guys put up 10,000 yards of offense in two years on a team that was supposed to get destroyed in the best conference in college football.
How about this? Who was a better college qb, Johnny Manziel or AJ Mccarron? McCarron won 3 national championships, so he must have been better. And Johnny must have been a choker because he never won the big one,
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Ugh, nevermind Gip, neither one of us will change their mind.
Go Browns!
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Don't forget Tommie Frazier, Reggie Bush, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Tim Tebow, all great college players.
None of those guys put up 10,000 yards of offense in two years on a team that was supposed to get destroyed in the best conference in college football.
How about this? Who was a better college qb, Johnny Manziel or AJ Mccarron? McCarron won 3 national championships, so he must have been better. And Johnny must have been a choker because he never won the big one,
Don't forget Tommie Frazier, Reggie Bush, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Tim Tebow, all great college players.
None as good as Manziel.....nor as good as some of the guys I mentioned heretofore.
None of those guys put up 10,000 yards of offense in two years on a team that was supposed to get destroyed in the best conference in college football.
How about this? Who was a better college qb, Johnny Manziel or AJ Mccarron? McCarron won 3 national championships, so he must have been better. And Johnny must have been a choker because he never won the big one,
Answer your own question....what do YOU think.
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I already said Johnny's the best college player I've ever seen, so yeah, he's better than McCarron, who played on a much better team with studs at every position 3-deep.
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I already said Johnny's the best college player I've ever seen, so yeah, he's better than McCarron, who played on a much better team with studs at every position 3-deep.
I already said Johnny's the best college player I've ever seen, so yeah, he's better than McCarron, who played on a much better team with studs at every position 3-deep.
Here are the college players I have seen play that were as good or better than JFF:
Herschel Walker
Archie Griffin
Dick Butkus
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Barry Sanders
Tony Dorsett
Bo Jackson
Archie Manning
John Elway
Jack Tatum
Vince Young
Roger Staubach
Joe Namath
Johnny Rodgers
Bubba Smith
Eddie George
Again...I am using the term "better"....which is different than "most exciting" "most fun" to watch. Johnny certainly was close to the top on that.
And I am not saying that JMZ does't fit in there with the best....but these guys were perhaps more dynamic football players. And sure, I have to go back to the mid 60s for some of them....so the fact that he is in the Top 15-20 is nothing to sneeze at.
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And riddle me this: here is the list of Quarterbacks that won the Heisman Trophy since 1960:
Marcus Mariota
Jameis Winston
Johnny Manziel
Robert Griffin III
Cam Newton
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Troy Smith
Matt Leinert
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torreta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Vinny Testaverde
Pat Sullivan
Jim Plunkett
Gary Beban
Steve Spurrier
John Huarte
Roger Staubach
Terry Baker.
Out of 26 Heisman Trophy winners, all but 5 (in blue bold) are either certified busts....or the jury is still out on 5 of themt....noted in italics.
The odds say apparently that only 1 of those in italics will actually make it to become a legit NFL QB.
Which one do you think it will be.....or do you think the odds will be beaten and that 2 or more will turn into a real QB?
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