Joe Thomas on Deflategate
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"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
On whether commissioner Roger Goodell overstepped his bounds and might have been on a witch hunt:
“Oh no doubt. I don’t know if he just doesn’t understand the game of football itself, or if there was a deeper motive to get (them) back for all the other rumors and suspicions of cheating that the Patriots have done. But if you’re going to suspend a guy for removing air from the football, to me it’s completely ridiculous.”
On his feelings on whether the Ted Wells report was fair:
“The league paid him.” (Thomas then compared the report to an “expert” witnesses being paid for testimony during criminal trials.)
"I would equate what [Tom Brady] did to driving 66 [mph] in a 65 speed zone, and getting the death penalty."
Joe Thomas
On whether commissioner Roger Goodell overstepped his bounds and might have been on a witch hunt:
“Oh no doubt. I don’t know if he just doesn’t understand the game of football itself, or if there was a deeper motive to get (them) back for all the other rumors and suspicions of cheating that the Patriots have done. But if you’re going to suspend a guy for removing air from the football, to me it’s completely ridiculous.”
On his feelings on whether the Ted Wells report was fair:
“The league paid him.” (Thomas then compared the report to an “expert” witnesses being paid for testimony during criminal trials.)
Joe Thomas is a god, unless of course his opinion is different than mine.
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VesnaKociper said:
How come nobody is talking about Seattle? Those guys are the ones who had their balls deflated.
OK, let's talk Seattle:
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Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
I disagree that is was very similar. The guy was adding a brush to protect his fingers, not get a competitive advantage, so no reason to suspect Feeley.
Pats were deflating balls for competitive reasons ... NOT that I think it is a big deal, I find the whole thing laughable ... but not similar IMO.
Zombo
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Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
Jay Feely describing a very similar incident where the league reacted in a very different way
How gay! So now you're using Touchy-Feely to get to your next episode of poor Tom Brady? They've already re-invented the tuck rule to benefit him and the Patriots almost like the NFL conveniently forgot about how far down field you could press WRs (AFC Championship Game where NE hosted Indy). Pretty strange how the NFL had to dig so deep to forget 1 rule existed while they had to dig even deeper to remember another rule they've rarely enforced as the playoffs are unfolding. In Cleveland, they don't erase things like "Red Right" or "The Fumble." If Tom Brady is fumbling the game away - totally different story.
Poor NE and Tom Brady!
Can we please stop all other NFL news for another 3-4 months so we can hear more about why poor NE needs to get away with this? And how exciting would an appeal be? Good Lord!
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brady will be the face that takes down goodell.
even if the suspension is split by 2 games.....forever roger will still look like a piece of shit, if he doesn't already.
haters gotta hate.
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Why all the man love for Brady? He isn't a Brown. He's some spoiled rich guy in Boston. Fuck him.
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brady will be the face that takes down goodell.
even if the suspension is split by 2 games.....forever roger will still look like a piece of shit, if he doesn't already.
haters gotta hate.
brady will be the face that takes down goodell.
even if the suspension is split by 2 games.....forever roger will still look like a piece of shit, if he doesn't already.
haters gotta hate.
Never happen. You know why? Rooney campaigned for him to get a heavy consensus of approval from 32 owners. In turn, Roger understands that so he remains forever obligated. After the Ray Rice thing, guess who stepped up first on behalf of Roger? Rooney.
Now let's look at a suspension getting reduced for L. Bell. First, the suspension was delayed from an event that took place in August of 2014. By delaying a suspension until 2015, it allowed Rooney's business to find help in FA during the offseason so it was problem solved way easier than doing it midseason when quality veteran help isn't nearly as plentiful. So? Pitt signs DeAngelo Williams (a former 1st round RB) and has enough time for Roger to re-think the length of suspension that could potentially impact his good friend Rooney's bottom line in the wins-losses column. The suspension was reduced just like it was for Ben Rapen. Joe Haden never got his suspension reduced so I can see the favoritism granted toward Rooney's investments.
I DO agree with you that Roger Goodfella is a piece of crap. Unfortunately, this can't compete with how much the shared revenue of 32 owners have increased exponentially via TV contracts under Roger's watch. Money has tendency to interfere with what's right and wrong.
I never disliked Brady. I just lost a lot of respect for him because he could have done this way better than he did before there was a passive aggressive suspension handed to him. All that could have been avoided with a fine he could have easily afforded or seeing a worst case scenario of 1 game.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
It seems to me the choice will be between leaving the suspension as it is or dropping the suspension. If he broke the rules then how and why should you minimize the punishment? If he didn't why should he get any punishment at all?
WSS
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It seems to me the choice will be between leaving the suspension as it is or dropping the suspension. If he broke the rules then how and why should you minimize the punishment? If he didn't why should he get any punishment at all?
WSS
It seems to me the choice will be between leaving the suspension as it is or dropping the suspension. If he broke the rules then how and why should you minimize the punishment? If he didn't why should he get any punishment at all?
WSS
Those are very good questions!
There was an extensive investigation or at least an attempt at one with a pretty sizable summary written. The guy that conducted it said Brady was very uncooperative. If there's nothing to hide - cooperation seems easy. Also, why throw away a cellphone if there's zero to hide? And to hear Robert Craft bellyaching about his poor franchise only makes this worse while 31 other NFL teams and fanbases are opening camp only to take a backseat to this highly avoidable situation.
Taking sides between Roger Goodfella and Tom Brady in this situation feels a lot like trying to take a side between Baltimore and Pittsburgh when they play. Both deserve to feel uncomfortable. Fancy lawyer tricks representing one of the wealthiest men in the Northeast doesn't change his level of cooperation from the get-go especially if there was zero to hide. If this whole crime is really as small as it is summarized by players and media - why be uncooperative OR resist saying "yeah, the air pressure is what I wanted it to be and I'm very sorry if I/we broke the rules." There were ways Brady could have done this better regardless of how sickening it is to see Roger getting passive aggressive on the punishment.
Get this thing down to 1-2 games already and be done with it.
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Here is the Patriots problem.....it is not with Goodell or the fans.......it IS with the other 31 owners who think they are cheaters (primarily Belichick more so than Brady....TB is just the whipping boy)......so NO, Goodell is not going anywhere because he is essentially doing their bidding.
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and if the judge upholds the letter of the law (bargaining agreement) then brady is fucked.
BUT
i think the judge is soooo disgusted that the 2 sides can't make a deal that he'll split it down the middle. brady will get 2 games, never admit to any guilt and the player's union will have a little more juice going forward.
BELIEVE me if there isn't something happening between owners and the player's union before too long we might be watching a film called 'the replacements'. don't think there might not be a stike looming in the future if goodell and the owners don't come down a notch or two.
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HA!!!
I'M RICK JAMES BEOTCHES!! YOU ALL DON'T KNOW SHIT!!!!
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i'll take your house now gipper.
What was that? Oh yea, we made a bet that I would give you my house if Phil Taylor was cut. Good bet on your part.
Only problem: I don't own a house. The only real estate interest I hold is a half interest in a timeshare. I could let you use it and send you on a trip.
Edit: In checking....I offer to send you to Nuevo Vallarta in September to stay in a studio....you don't need more than a studio do you?
(of course, you are responsible for your transportation etc.)
Second edit: I will sweeten the offer and include Acapulco, Orlando, Puerto Vallarta, Atlantic City, Grand Cayman, or Austria. Again, studios.
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no gip, on topic, this is a bout tom brady and deflategate.
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It seems to me the choice will be between leaving the suspension as it is or dropping the suspension. If he broke the rules then how and why should you minimize the punishment? If he didn't why should he get any punishment at all?
WSS
Those are very good questions!
There was an extensive investigation or at least an attempt at one with a pretty sizable summary written. The guy that conducted it said Brady was very uncooperative. If there's nothing to hide - cooperation seems easy. Also, why throw away a cellphone if there's zero to hide? And to hear Robert Craft bellyaching about his poor franchise only makes this worse while 31 other NFL teams and fanbases are opening camp only to take a backseat to this highly avoidable situation.
Taking sides between Roger Goodfella and Tom Brady in this situation feels a lot like trying to take a side between Baltimore and Pittsburgh when they play. Both deserve to feel uncomfortable. Fancy lawyer tricks representing one of the wealthiest men in the Northeast doesn't change his level of cooperation from the get-go especially if there was zero to hide. If this whole crime is really as small as it is summarized by players and media - why be uncooperative OR resist saying "yeah, the air pressure is what I wanted it to be and I'm very sorry if I/we broke the rules." There were ways Brady could have done this better regardless of how sickening it is to see Roger getting passive aggressive on the punishment.
Get this thing down to 1-2 games already and be done with it.
Those are very good questions!
There was an extensive investigation or at least an attempt at one with a pretty sizable summary written. The guy that conducted it said Brady was very uncooperative. If there's nothing to hide - cooperation seems easy. Also, why throw away a cellphone if there's zero to hide? And to hear Robert Craft bellyaching about his poor franchise only makes this worse while 31 other NFL teams and fanbases are opening camp only to take a backseat to this highly avoidable situation.
Taking sides between Roger Goodfella and Tom Brady in this situation feels a lot like trying to take a side between Baltimore and Pittsburgh when they play. Both deserve to feel uncomfortable. Fancy lawyer tricks representing one of the wealthiest men in the Northeast doesn't change his level of cooperation from the get-go especially if there was zero to hide. If this whole crime is really as small as it is summarized by players and media - why be uncooperative OR resist saying "yeah, the air pressure is what I wanted it to be and I'm very sorry if I/we broke the rules." There were ways Brady could have done this better regardless of how sickening it is to see Roger getting passive aggressive on the punishment.
Get this thing down to 1-2 games already and be done with it.
And here comes the court ruling. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice beetlejuice.
WSS
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brady will be the face that takes down goodell.
even if the suspension is split by 2 games.....forever roger will still look like a piece of shit, if he doesn't already.
haters gotta hate.
Never happen. You know why? Rooney campaigned for him to get a heavy consensus of approval from 32 owners. In turn, Roger understands that so he remains forever obligated. After the Ray Rice thing, guess who stepped up first on behalf of Roger? Rooney.
Now let's look at a suspension getting reduced for L. Bell. First, the suspension was delayed from an event that took place in August of 2014. By delaying a suspension until 2015, it allowed Rooney's business to find help in FA during the offseason so it was problem solved way easier than doing it midseason when quality veteran help isn't nearly as plentiful. So? Pitt signs DeAngelo Williams (a former 1st round RB) and has enough time for Roger to re-think the length of suspension that could potentially impact his good friend Rooney's bottom line in the wins-losses column. The suspension was reduced just like it was for Ben Rapen. Joe Haden never got his suspension reduced so I can see the favoritism granted toward Rooney's investments.
I DO agree with you that Roger Goodfella is a piece of crap. Unfortunately, this can't compete with how much the shared revenue of 32 owners have increased exponentially via TV contracts under Roger's watch. Money has tendency to interfere with what's right and wrong.
I never disliked Brady. I just lost a lot of respect for him because he could have done this way better than he did before there was a passive aggressive suspension handed to him. All that could have been avoided with a fine he could have easily afforded or seeing a worst case scenario of 1 game.
Never happen.
Uh..........
yes you can say i won on this one.....go ahead....say it.......
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