Free Josh Gordon!

D Bone

@poeticg said:

That's all good and dandy hoorta but after serving your time they are not going to suspend you from work for an entire year.. that's extreme.

Gordon served his time last year like a soldier for the marijuana, cut him some slack.

To me it's like the 3 strikes law. Yea it sucks he went away for life for stealing a t-shirt from Wet Seal, but had he of not stole that car and then robbed that mini-mart, he wouldn't have gone away for life........... Exaggerations I know, but it gets my view point across.

I root for the guys who are smart enough to follow the rules, and thankfully, there are 53 of them.

BaconHound

I'd like to see Josh playing but unfortunately the burden of proof is easier to prove to a judge when multiple drug tests have been failed and there is no "Braun chain of custody" issues.

miktoxic

if this were the real world maybe he would get some slack working for free range people. problem is the NFL is a entity owned by people that have certain rules and free range people are old hippes that have no clue.

just like the military. just like mcdonalds. when you go to work at the ginsu knife factory and show up late 2 days a week for the 2 months you've been there then they'll put you on notice: don't show up late again or you're fired. well josh has been showing up late since someone told him he could run fast, jump high and catch a ball.

Zombo

Ginsu Knife Factory ... changing my Fantasy team name.

Z

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@poeticg said:
D bone you are a douchebag my friend. Anyone that follows the Browns and knows ANYTHING about the Browns and Gordon's situation should know better than to open their belittling cocksucker.

You opened your cocksucker.

So are you saying you don't know anything about the Browns?

Canton Dawg

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Gordon quit his last game with the Browns. Or did you all forget his shit performance? Fuck him.

This is my biggest bitch about Gordon, I have a feeling he doesn't want to be here.

calfoxwc

Gordon doesn't play like a Brown, isn't smart enough.

And, he's had mulitple offenses. Free him from football, because

he'd rather smoke, etc, and doesn't do self-discipline.

TexasAg1969

"If people would just pay me to stop robbin' 'em, I'd stop robbin' 'em"-Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid

"Gordon, however, insists he has no real problem, and no one has yet proven otherwise."

Funny thing is they do want to pay him for not using and he just doesn't get that. Better go to JF's rehab center where they teach you different, because apparently he can't hear it from the horse's mouth.

7moses7

if u do the crime you will have to do the time

USFBrown

Jesus Christ. Didn't think it could get any worse with PoG but he's so fucking delusion. Just makes you realize that we live in a world with crazy "men" who have lustful infatuations with other dudes.

He's of the breed that everyone should get a trophy. Fuck responsibility. Blame someone else.

Unsympathetic

Gordon should be smoking ZERO weed.

Not some. Not "just a couple celebratory bong hits" - NONE.

I have zero sympathy for Gordon - and I don't think he's physically capable of being the "The Josh Gordon" ever again.

Bowe can't separate from me, let alone actual NFL cornerbacks - and Gordon won't be able to, either. They should have cut him a long time ago.

And I think Gordon will get cut next year.

calfoxwc

I think POG craves attention at any cost. or...something.

The Gipper

@poeticg said:
To suspend him for an entire YEAR for one misunderstood flight? That's harsh by any standards. He restrained from smoking or drinking anything the entire season... it was a misunderstanding. He wasn't smoking crack and getting popped fucking prostitutes, it was a couple drinks with teammates and coaches celebrating the season. So had the Browns won the Superbowl Josh would have been suspended for having a glass champagne? It's ridiculous and if you understand this and continue to side with the NFL on this then you are also draconian and OFFSIDES~

Oddly....I kind of agree with PoG on this. The rules for these guy doing a little drinking or a little dope are Draconian.

I understand that "these" are the rules......and that it is too late to do anything about Gordon......but these rules can change.

We are about to make a major change in the dope rules in this state.

Gay marriage is now legal and people are going to jail for not adhering to the new rules.

So, to me.....this union needs to seriously negotiate a change in the dope rules.

If someone just tests for dope....I see no issue with that.

If they get popped for OVI (whether alcohol or drugs) then that is a concern to be dealt with.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

Well, if I drive home from work sober 180 times, and on #181 a cop pulls me over after I drank a quart of Margaritas at the local bar, guess what? I'm going to the slammer. Yeah- the number of tests is absurd- but the NFLPA let the league get away with it.

But if you drink 180 nights....and you also drink on the 181st night and do nothing else.....like drive....that would not be fair.

I agree, you drive impaired putting people in danger you suffer the consequences.

I have dealt out those consequences on many occasions......but I have never dealt out consequences for someone just drinking....just for drinking and driving. (Or if while impaired they do other stupid shit.....like become disorderly or whatever)

The Gipper

@7moses7 said:
if u do the crime you will have to do the time

Again, no crime involved.....just a corporate rule.

And hell....as I said, it will no longer be a "crime" soon.....so it will just be a corporate rule.

hoorta

@texasag1969 said:

"If people would just pay me to stop robbin' 'em, I'd stop robbin' 'em"-Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid

"Gordon, however, insists he has no real problem, and no one has yet proven otherwise."

Funny thing is they do want to pay him for not using and he just doesn't get that. Better go to JF's rehab center where they teach you different, because apparently he can't hear it from the horse's mouth.

I think the plus is we haven't heard anything bad about Josh this year- YET (as a drug counselor I know likes to say). Still working out were the reports. Around 7 months till he can apply for reinstatement. I wonder if this suspension (assuming he can stay clean) will count as "time served" until his drug record gets wiped clean- it's 2 years, isn't it? Hey if he can come back and come close to that one year production, it will be worth the wait. But I doubt the Browns will take him back without having a backup plan in place.

USFBrown

@the-gipper said:

Again, no crime involved.....just a corporate rule.

And hell....as I said, it will no longer be a "crime" soon.....so it will just be a corporate rule.

Don't like the corporate rules? Go get employed somewhere else.

Shit Disney didn't allow beards until a couple years ago.

The Gipper

@usfbrown said:

Don't like the corporate rules? Go get employed somewhere else.

Shit Disney didn't allow beards until a couple years ago.

Corporate rules can be change a lot easier than statutes....and they ain't fucking sacred by any means.

I think this WILL be a major area of negotiation next time the CBA comes up.

USFBrown

@the-gipper said:

Corporate rules can be change a lot easier than statutes....and they ain't fucking sacred by any means.

I think this WILL be a major area of negotiation next time the CBA comes up.

No arguments about that. Some are stupid as hell, i.e Disney. Point is, you gotta follow company rules else find a job somewhere else.

You're not entitled to your job. Especially when you're highly compensated like NFL players. I'd eat dog shit once a week to make millions per year to play a kids game, if the company mandated it.

Mudfly

@usfbrown said:

Don't like the corporate rules? Go get employed somewhere else.

Shit Disney didn't allow beards until a couple years ago.

ftm...the Yankees didnt allow beards either....I think that changed in the 90's?