Who Are Our Final Cuts?

Clevfan4life

I would "hate" to lose Lenz. With the history of drops in this city, man that kid is a flycatcher. And lest we forget he had some catches in the first or 2nd game where flat out beat some starting DB's on a pure vertical route. Kid has quicks. Not the biggest guy so I dunno, maybe not at Welkers level yet cause that guy you could send anywhere. But given some time I think Lenz can be the next welker.

gftChris

@the-gipper said:
Mayle was also playing on STs....in fact played the gunner role I believe. What does Moore bring to the table that Mayle doesn't....besides experience?

Proven ability in special teams and kick returns. You want to 'just' call that experience, and then discount it, then fine. I doubt that's how a GM works.

The Gipper

@gftchris said:
Proven ability in special teams and kick returns. You want to 'just' call that experience, and then discount it, then fine. I doubt that's how a GM works.

Well, if you are going to carry a Wide Receiver, then that WR has to actually do that.

When have we ever seen Marlon Moore make a catch for the Browns? He has exactly -0- catches in his career with the Browns.

Plus....he is not all that good at the return game. He had 13 kickoff returns ....his longest being 32 yards.

He had a few tackles on special teams.

I just don't see the quality....or potential there. Not like a Travis Benjamin. He doesn't make me forget Josh Cribbs.

Mudfly

Id just say that the 6th or 7th receiver wont add much on the field unless he contributes on ST.......

so, while a guy like lenz looks "better" to us, because of his catches......a guy like Moore looks better to the coaches, because he contributes every game...

I do believe that the ST coach gets to hand pick a couple players(or has some serious say, at least) for himself....so If he wants Moore(for example) then Lenz or Mayle might just get cut or moved to PS....

calfoxwc

Lenz goes to the active roster - I think that's definate.

He's way too smart, way too athletic, way too tough, way too good

a wr to lose. And he played db for a bit? LOL.

He is way too valuable.

I can see Mayle and Jennings to

the practice squad....Jennings is quite a player, but maybe not

ready for prime time just yet.

Bowe looked like he was just getting some work in, after just

getting back.

I figure his body of work assures Pettine and co. that he can get that

separation when the regular season starts.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/04/mike-pettine-says-dwayne-bowe-isnt-in-danger-of-getting-cut/

Tour2ma

Jennings to the PS would be nice...

@mudfly said:
so, while a guy like lenz looks "better" to us, because of his catches......a guy like Moore looks better to the coaches, because he contributes every game...

Sometimes your spare hood ornaments have to be functional?

TexasAg1969

This is interesting concerning final 53.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/15372/johnny-manziels-elbow-key-to-makeup-of-browns-predicted-roster

thenew23

Here it is folks... now let's see how wrong I am tomorrow...

QB – McCown / Manziel

RB – Crowell / West / D.Johnson

FB – M.Johnson

WR – Hartline / Bowe / Moore

WR2 – Gabriel / Benjamin / Pryor

WRS - Hawkins

TE – Barnidge / Dray / Bibbs / Housler

LT – Thomas

LG – Bitonio

C – Mack

RG – Greco / Erving

RT – Schwartz / *FA Signing

DE – Starks / Cooper

NT – Shelton / Hughes / Meder

DE – D.Bryant / A.Bryant

OLB – Kruger / Orchard

ILB – Dansby / Carder

ILB – Robertson / Kirksey

OLB – Solomon / Mingo

CB1 – Haden / Desir / Bademosi

CB2 – T.Williams / Gilbert

CBS – K.Williams / Gaines

FS – Gipson / Poyer

SS – Whitner / Campbell

LS – Hughlett

K – Coons

P - Lee

IR – Ekpre-Olomu / Telfer / Shaw / Winston / Bowie

PS – Mayle / Lenz / Miller / D.Wynn / McDaniel / Pullard / Nelson

Waiver signing – OT

PS signing – QB / OL / RB

gumby73

@thenew23 said:

QB--McCown / Manziel

RB – Crowell / West / D.Johnson

FB – M.Johnson

WR – Hartline / Bowe / **LENZ**

WR2 – Gabriel / Benjamin / Pryor

WRS - Hawkins

TE – Barnidge / Dray / Bibbs / ****

LT – Thomas

LG – Bitonio

C – Mack

RG – Greco / Erving

RT – Schwartz / *FA Signing

DE – Starks / Cooper

NT – Shelton / Hughes / Meder

DE – D.Bryant / A.Bryant / B. Wynn

OLB – Kruger / Orchard

ILB – Dansby / Carder

ILB – Robertson / Kirksey

OLB – Solomon / Mingo

CB1 – Haden / Desir / Bademosi

CB2 – T.Williams / Gilbert

CBS – K.Williams / Gaines

FS – Gipson / Poyer

SS – Whitner / Campbell

ST----Jennings/ Moore

LS – Hughlett

K – *** get experience

P - Lee

Jennings,Moore, A.Bryant or B. Wynn lose out to K when Signed

IR – Ekpre-Olomu / Telfer / Shaw / Winston / Bowie

PS – Mayle / Miller / D.Wynn / McDaniel / Pullard / Nelson (allowed 10 this season)

Waiver signing – OT

PS signing – QB / OL / RB

Mike H

Gaines, Pullard and Jennings will make roster IMO

Carder and Moore should be cut

Zombo

@texasag1969 said:

This is interesting concerning final 53.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/15372/johnny-manziels-elbow-key-to-makeup-of-browns-predicted-roster

Yes, I think Thad is gone, but a third vet qb could be brought in. McGroin makes sense since he played for Flip.

The Matt Barkley / Tim Tebow loser?

Just kidding re Tebow.

Just wanted to say it before someone says it with sincerity.

Z

Clevfan4life

lenz played DB last night?

Mike H

@clevfan4life said:
lenz played DB last night?

Briefly at safety

Clevfan4life

i'm not unimpressed.

Canton Dawg

Zombo said:

Yes, I think Thad is gone, but a third vet qb could be brought in. McGroin makes sense since he played for Flip.

The Matt Barkley / Tim Tebow loser?

Just kidding re Tebow.

Just wanted to say it before someone says it with sincerity.

Z

You can scratch Barkley off your wish list.

@AdamSchefter: And so now, if Eagles carry three QBs, Tim Tebow makes it. But Matt Barkley is headed to AZ for a conditional 7th-rd pick.

The Gipper

@canton-dawg said:

You can scratch Barkley off your wish list.

@AdamSchefter: And so now, if Eagles carry three QBs, Tim Tebow makes it. But Matt Barkley is headed to AZ for a conditional 7th-rd pick.

Smart move by the Cards.

Unsympathetic

Pryor over Carder

Carder does not have NFL-level skills at LB. Keeping a player who's not able to play the field is a luxury we can't afford

hoorta

@clevfan4life said:
I would "hate" to lose Lenz. With the history of drops in this city, man that kid is a flycatcher. And lest we forget he had some catches in the first or 2nd game where flat out beat some starting DB's on a pure vertical route. Kid has quicks. Not the biggest guy so I dunno, maybe not at Welkers level yet cause that guy you could send anywhere. But given some time I think Lenz can be the next welker.

I'm seeing a lot of Bryan Brenan in Lenz. I think he makes the 53. My guess is he won't clear waivers.

@unsympathetic said:

Pryor over Carder

Carder does not have NFL-level skills at LB. Keeping a player who's not able to play the field is a luxury we can't afford

Carder is only on the team because of his special teams play. The same could be said about Bademosi.

Mudfly

@gftchris said:

Roster (not depth chart)

QB - McCown, Manziel - 2

RB - Duke, West, Crowell - 3

TE - Barnidge, Dray, Bibbs - 3

WR - Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Benjamin, Pryor, Moore, Mayle - 8

FB - Johnson - 1

OL - Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Schwartz, Erving, A. McDonald - 7

Total = 24

DL - Shelton, D. Bryant, Starks, Cooper, Hughes, Meder, A. Bryant, Winn - 8

LB - Solomon, Robertson, Orchard, Dansby, Mingo, Kruger, Kirksey, Carder, Pullard - 9

DB - Whitner, T. Williams, Haden, Gipson, Campbell, Poyer, Desir, Gilbert, K. Williams, Gaines - 9

Total = 26; 50

ST - Coons, Lee, Hughlett - 3

PS - Olsen, James, Lenz.......

Riffer X

Well, cutting Lenz is pure fucking genius.