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  • Yes Thad was bad last nite but that OL that was to protect him and possibly block for a RB might have been even worst. Thad has never looked that bad and no way he did it on his own. (except that pryor lead block,LOL).

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    @miktoxic said:

    who are philly's 3 qbs? bradford barkley and tebow? where is the dirty sanchez? hell i'd rather have him than tbag lewis on the browns.

    Barkley is likely getting the chop.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Barkley is likely getting the chop.

    Yup... Sanchez is the firm #2. Not sure there will be a third, but no telling with Chip...

    With Tebow... you could use a Sundial to time his pregressions...

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  • Carder has been terrible any time he has been played as a linebacker. He's a special teams player, not an "ace" or anything near it

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    Yes Thad was bad last nite but that OL that was to protect him and possibly block for a RB might have been even worst. Thad has never looked that bad and no way he did it on his own. (except that pryor lead block,LOL).

    @gumby73 said:

    Yes Thad was bad last nite but that OL that was to protect him and possibly block for a RB might have been even worst. Thad has never looked that bad and no way he did it on his own. (except that pryor lead block,LOL).

    A lot of the bad....he did do on his own. The OL may have been bad....but he made them look worse by continually holding on to the ball......fumbling it....throwing it to the other team. Just bad.

  • Keeping a player who is only competent at ST is a luxury at best.. something we can't afford. I'd rather have Pryor and/or Pullard over Carder

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  • I really think the Bowe signing was a huge mistake. I also agree he has lost a step or two and can't gain separation very well. Having said that they showed multiple replays last night where he was literally holding up a "hey I'm open throw me the damn ball sign". It would have been nice to see the effort with a better QB. It did look like he might be an ok possession guy.

  • Mike HM Mike H

    Carder has been terrible any time he has been played as a linebacker. He's a special teams player, not an "ace" or anything near it

    @mike-h said:

    Carder has been terrible any time he has been played as a linebacker. He's a special teams player, not an "ace" or anything near it

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

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  • Pullard just seems to have the football instincts bigtime.

    Carder has been impressive on ST's,,, but I still remember some of his

    boneheaded penalties.

    Goin to be interesting.

  • Thad Lewis is no way good enough to be the backup. McCown hurt his finger last year and was in and out and at least they had Glennon. A 36 yr. old backup is a scary thing to start a season with Manziel's potential problem. McCown ain't mobile and I don't see him playing a full year. Maybe half.

    Drop Thad Lewis now and at least get EJ Manuel.

    Terrence West looks like Trent Richardson, I hope I am wrong.

    Also John Gruden said that Manziel's elbow is not a good sign at all. Especially since no one knew he's had problems since high school.

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  • Z Zombo

    @mike-h said:

    Carder has been terrible any time he has been played as a linebacker. He's a special teams player, not an "ace" or anything near it

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

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  • Z Zombo

    @mike-h said:

    Carder has been terrible any time he has been played as a linebacker. He's a special teams player, not an "ace" or anything near it

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    His blocked punt for a Safety vrs TN was a huge momentum swing in an epic comeback on the road. That said, I couldn't tell you what he projects as a LBer.

    As we get better, we're going to need some of these STs guys like Bademosi, Carder, and even Moore to show they can also be reliable in our rotation or as a fill in. This preseason, Moore showed me he's willing to block, get open and catch the ball. Bademosi can line up at Safety or Corner; but I'm not sold he does either well enough to be reliable. The good news for him is there isn't a lot of vets that start who like to be a punt team gunner staring into the teeth of an aggressive double-press at the line of scrimmage. He's really impressive in that role so he's unique enough for our coaching staff to like. Unfortunately, that reality makes it more difficult on the next guy trying to make it exclusively for a STs role. We also usually have a long snapper taking another spot without offering us anything on either side of the ball.

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  • Mike HM Mike H

    Zombo said:

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

    @mike-h said:

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

    This one is going to be interesting with coaches thinking they can prolly stash Pullard on the practice squad.

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  • Mike HM Mike H

    Zombo said:

    I'm not the only one to ever call him a special teams ace.

    I believe that is his reputation and his reason for being on the team thus far through three head coaches.

    He won an award for it last year.

    Zombo

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

    @mike-h said:

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

    I agree Tank ain't much of a LB, which tells me Tabor loves him as a ST and that's why he keeps making the roster.

    Pullard looks like a keeper and the Browns would probably like to keep him on PS and get another year out of Tank on ST ... but do they take that risk of cutting Pullard? I'm projecting NO ... I think Pullard stays and Tank goes, but it will be interesting to see.

    I actually saw one projection with both cut and only 3 inside LBs on the roster. I assume that person thinks Pullard can be stashed on PS and activated in case of injury.

    Personally, I wouldn't expose him.

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    @mike-h said:

    No doubt he has survived, but I have never seen him make an impact play and I have been charting the team for two seasons. I think the term "ace" is overblown, and wasn't referring strictly to you calling him that.

    Pullard is a better overall player than him and I hope he gets that spot, because I think he's irrelevant

    I agree Tank ain't much of a LB, which tells me Tabor loves him as a ST and that's why he keeps making the roster.

    Pullard looks like a keeper and the Browns would probably like to keep him on PS and get another year out of Tank on ST ... but do they take that risk of cutting Pullard? I'm projecting NO ... I think Pullard stays and Tank goes, but it will be interesting to see.

    I actually saw one projection with both cut and only 3 inside LBs on the roster. I assume that person thinks Pullard can be stashed on PS and activated in case of injury.

    Personally, I wouldn't expose him.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I agree Tank ain't much of a LB, which tells me Tabor loves him as a ST and that's why he keeps making the roster.

    Pullard looks like a keeper and the Browns would probably like to keep him on PS and get another year out of Tank on ST ... but do they take that risk of cutting Pullard? I'm projecting NO ... I think Pullard stays and Tank goes, but it will be interesting to see.

    I actually saw one projection with both cut and only 3 inside LBs on the roster. I assume that person thinks Pullard can be stashed on PS and activated in case of injury.

    Personally, I wouldn't expose him.

    Zombo

    same way I see it. I wouldn't take the risk, like Pullard too much.
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