Harbaugh is in for a LONG year
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No one expected Michigan you return to "elite status" week one, year one of Jim harbaugh.
It took Urban Meyer 25 games to get his first loss at Ohio State...
It took Jim Harbaugh 1 game to get his first loss at Michigan...
It took Urban Meyer 25 games to get his first loss at Ohio State...
It took Jim Harbaugh 1 game to get his first loss at Michigan...
Ok? Harbaugh also lost his first game at each of his college stops. No one is expecting this turnaround to happen immediately.
It's also pretty obvious Meyer took over a probably more talented team with definitely better past coaching. We've been all over the place, you had one bad year of Fickel.
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I gave them going 8-4. I was expecting them to lose this game
You should say you will be happy with 6-6....because you should be happy with 6-6 vs. what it could be.
You should say you will be happy with 6-6....because you should be happy with 6-6 vs. what it could be.
We lost the first game, by 7, on the road at night against a good team, with a -3 turnover margin. And it was only 7 points.
What do you think "what it could be" is? Most people are putting the bottom as 6-6, with 8-4 a reasonable expectation.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
8-4
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[email protected] lol!
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I don't see 8-4 for michigan. I think 6-6 is realistic
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I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
5-7I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.
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5-7I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.
Right now, your floor is technically 0-12.
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I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."
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I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.
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I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.
I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.
So with his entire body of work, you think he is overrated. And the only reasoning you have is Andrew Luck.
Insightful
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It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.
It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.
Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...
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I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."
I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."
The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...
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I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."
The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...
The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...
In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record
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The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...
In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record
In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record
Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record
Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.
Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.
If you believe him he wanted to be in San Francisco but was forced out
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
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It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.
Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...
Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...
Going from SDSU to Stanford still leaves you woefully short of knowing how to manage the egos of a big time program. Hey, he'll probably do fine, I just don't like when people assume a guy will dominate the CFB big leagues just because he dominated the small ones.
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It's a rivalry Woody. Don't expect anything other than this.
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