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The fascist anti-gun left socially and legally intimidates any gun carrier

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    And of course, they would love gun registration, so not only can they publish names

    and addresses....


    but it opens the door for them to file false police reports on any gun registrant in their neighborhood, saying they were doing something illegal with their gun.


    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/09/02/gun-control-advocates-encourage-supporters-to-call-the-cops-on-open-conceal-gun-carriers/


    “If you see someone carrying a firearm in public—openly or concealed—and have ANY doubts about their intent, call 911 immediately and ask police to come to the scene,” the group wrote on its widely followed Facebook page. “Never put your safety, or the safety of your loved ones, at the mercy of weak gun laws that arm individuals in public with little or no criminal and/or mental health screening.”


    Let me tell you how this situation could play out.


    In 2010, 38-year-old Erik Scott was shopping in a Las Vegas Costco while legally concealing a firearm. A Costco employee noticed the concealed gun and called the police to tell them there was a man with a gun inside the store. The store was evacuated once the police arrived and Erik Scott was executed in front of swarms of Costco customers. Scott, a Westpoint graduate, was a former Army officer.


    It’s a miracle that only one person was murdered as this unfolded.


    When you introduce deadly force into a situation there is no telling what might result. People are on edge, people with deadly weapons are on edge — it’s a powder keg. These horrible gun-control monsters do not care how these situations might escalate — and escalate they will when the police are informed someone has a firearm and innocent people are “in danger” and they show up to control a potentially violent situation.


    If any of these zealots call the cops on a law-abiding citizen and a deadly confrontation results, they should be named as an accessory to murder.


    “This practice is exactly what they [Coalition to Stop Gun Violence] are doing,” said Erich Pratt, spokesman for Virginia-based Gun Owners of America. “It’s one thing if someone is using a gun in an illegal or unlawful manner. No one is questioning that. But this clearly sounds like swatting.”


    Here’s what Ladd Everitt, director of communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, told Fox News:


    “In an era in which individuals are being allowed to carry loaded guns on our streets with no permit, background check or required training, it is common sense for concerned citizens to call 911 when they see an armed individual whose intentions are unclear. These [open carry] laws guarantee that we—and law enforcement—will have no idea about the criminal and/or mental health background of these individuals until they actually commit a crime; and by then it could be far too late. We have full confidence in our men and women in blue to assess these situations.


    “Gun-toters who are truly law-abiding and mentally competent have nothing whatsoever to worry about. Their conversations with law enforcement will be brief and professional,” he added. “As for those who are dangerous and have something to hide which would not withstand the scrutiny of a background check or permitting process, they should expect to face some tough questions as a result of these 911 calls. And that makes us all safer.”


    Nope.


    You should absolutely not call the police on someone who is going about his business and acting entirely normal merely because he has a gun. The gun-control crowd wants to brainwash citizens into thinking that mere possession of a gun is prima facie evidence of ill intent. But this is not so and these morons have hijacked the narrative and flipped reality on its head. In most locales, we have the right to conceal or openly carry a firearm. THAT IS A FACT. The idea that there is something alarming or worrisome about merely having a firearm is a lie the gun-control groups tell low-information citizens.


    One more time: If any of these zealots call the cops on a law-abiding citizen and that facilitates a deadly confrontation, they should be named as an accessory to murder.

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    • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      Not a big fan of open carry, but seriously?

      One point:

      If you are carrying (properly) concealed, how would anyone know?

      I suppose they could guess if they noticed any budge at any time.

      Not too many folks carry cell phones on their hip.

      Another point:

      Not only advocating false police reports to intimidate and discredit "left-handedly",

      but with deliberate misinformation to evoke emotional responses in support of their cause.

      We HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS ALREADY. And as much as gun laws will always be imperfect,

      most like any law is also imperfect....they are not all that "weak".

      If you have to lie to make points, may as well admit that you are addicted to stupidity and failure.

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        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Clearly I understand you shouldn't just call the cops because you see someone with a gun. But the Scott case is a horrible example to use. He was on private, not public, property that clearly stated there was no handguns allowed on the property. He got into an arguement with an employee, during which the employee noticed the gun. That was stupid on his part. Rule #1 for people who are breaking the rules; don't let others know your breaking the rules. Duh.

        So you have a aggrivated person with a gun, when hes not supposed to have one. That's a formula for disaster. You can't just blindly support anyone who legally has a gun. When do you support the right of the property owner to set the rules of his establishment?

        Sex is legal, but not in front of an elementary school, at least in my world.....

        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          I don't see the part about it was "no guns allowed" on private property.

          That would change things. Did I miss it in the article?

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            I believe Costco has a "no guns on the premises" policy as far as I know. He had to have been doing a shit job of concealing it if one of the store gophers could ID that he was carrying.

            I would need to know more on the story to get why the cops shot him.

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              htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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              It's well documented.

              “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                Don't costco *sell* guns? Or am I thinking of somewhere else?

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                  Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                  Walmart maybe Chris. No Costco I've been in sells firearms.

                  Concealed means concealed. And I'm all for respecting a business' wishes, but if your "no guns allowed" sticker isn't displayed prominently at each entrance, that isn't my problem. If it is displayed prominently, I have the choice to not patronize your establishment.

                  Amazon prime respects my rights.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    Maybe I was thinking of walmart, yeah.

                    Also, haven't really paid attention to this, but if the sign says 'no guns in the store' then don't take a gun in the store? I'm constitutionally allowed to wear a hoodie, but plenty of stores will have signs requesting people not wear them. I have the choice to remove the hoodie or not patronise the store. Not complicated?

                    Then you have the overhanded reaction. So the guy doesn't see the sign, someone calls the cops (fair enough - should be no guns, this guy has a gun, what's up?) and the cops come and, what, shoot him rather than ask why he has a gun? Heavy handed militarised response from the police. Something America is famous for world-over.

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