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Harbaugh is in for a LONG year

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    @mld-woody said:

    You think he didn't have any good/decent options in the NFL? With all of the success he had? You sure?

    Of the 7 NFL teams that needed a coach this past off-season, maybe ATL was a better job than UM

    Wait until the Colts need a new coach. They will have their pick of any college coach they want

    Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh all might get calls from them, and if they want Harbaugh he will be gone

    @browns149 said:

    Of the 7 NFL teams that needed a coach this past off-season, maybe ATL was a better job than UM

    Wait until the Colts need a new coach. They will have their pick of any college coach they want

    Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh all might get calls from them, and if they want Harbaugh he will be gone

    Sure thing.

    I imagine you also went from the "he'll never leave the NFL for Michigan!" to the "Well no one in the NFL wanted him anyway!" camps too...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • W wargograw

    @mld-woody said:

    Everyone has a professional mentality in the NFL? Really? You think egos just disappear once you reach the NFL? And you think "just cut them" is the answer?

    Every Michigan fan says Harbaugh will "dominate"? Really? I disagree, but I guess that would depend on your definition of dominate.

    No, Stanford is not in the top level of big time programs. Stanford isn't a small program though. And, again, it ignores the NFL.

    Though I'm sure most NFL coaches would be relieved to hear there aren't egos to deal with in the NFL and everyone is a professional.

    It's a completely different ball game dealing with these youngsters. They are anywhere from 1-5 years younger than every NFL player. That makes a huge difference. They can be cut in a lot of instances. See West, Terrence (I realize he wasn't technically cut).

    So you haven't said exactly what you think he'll do. Just are refuting my interpretation of Michigan fans (which is built largely off of the things you've said anyway). Care to actually offer an opinion instead of picking apart everyone else's?

    @wargograw said:

    It's a completely different ball game dealing with these youngsters. They are anywhere from 1-5 years younger than every NFL player. That makes a huge difference. They can be cut in a lot of instances. See West, Terrence (I realize he wasn't technically cut).

    So you haven't said exactly what you think he'll do. Just are refuting my interpretation of Michigan fans (which is built largely off of the things you've said anyway). Care to actually offer an opinion instead of picking apart everyone else's?

    I think we'll be in the national title conversation in about 4 years

    West wasn't a star. Moving him was no big deal. College coaches have much, much more influence over their players than NFL coaches.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Ok we're splitting hairs but being in the title conversation is not dominating?

    The guys are much older, more mature, the ones with character issues are downgraded in the draft, etc. No comparison to getting some kid in from New Orleans or BF, Mississippi that's grown up with no father and a ton of violence in the neighborhood and whose first time leaving his 100 mile radius is when his high school coach drove him to an unofficial visit. That's who you're managing. Not a guy who's been a college star for years.

  • I consider dominating as creating a dynasty with multiple titles. I don't expect that.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Alright, fair enough. That's a clear distinction. Why don't you though?

  • W wargograw

    Alright, fair enough. That's a clear distinction. Why don't you though?

    @wargograw said:

    Alright, fair enough. That's a clear distinction. Why don't you though?

    I don't think that is a reasonable expectation for any team. There is a lot of competition across the board. Michigan has a top coach, they're a top program historically, have all of the resources they could need, etc etc etc... but it is unreasonable to expect "dominance" anywhere.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • How woody sees harbaugh 635744570737111693-espn1.jpg

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    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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    @browns149 said:

    Of the 7 NFL teams that needed a coach this past off-season, maybe ATL was a better job than UM

    Wait until the Colts need a new coach. They will have their pick of any college coach they want

    Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh all might get calls from them, and if they want Harbaugh he will be gone

    Sure thing.

    I imagine you also went from the "he'll never leave the NFL for Michigan!" to the "Well no one in the NFL wanted him anyway!" camps too...

    @mld-woody said:

    Sure thing.

    I imagine you also went from the "he'll never leave the NFL for Michigan!" to the "Well no one in the NFL wanted him anyway!" camps too...

    It was easy for him to leave the NFL for UM. He had no better offer.

    I'm sure the Raiders wanted him, or the Jets, or even the Bills, but he wasn't going there.

    And I don't blame him for that, those places are where coaches go to die.

    So he ran to UM until he gets a better offer. Just like he has done his entire coaching career

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @mld-woody said:

    Sure thing.

    I imagine you also went from the "he'll never leave the NFL for Michigan!" to the "Well no one in the NFL wanted him anyway!" camps too...

    It was easy for him to leave the NFL for UM. He had no better offer.

    I'm sure the Raiders wanted him, or the Jets, or even the Bills, but he wasn't going there.

    And I don't blame him for that, those places are where coaches go to die.

    So he ran to UM until he gets a better offer. Just like he has done his entire coaching career

    @browns149 said:

    It was easy for him to leave the NFL for UM. He had no better offer.

    I'm sure the Raiders wanted him, or the Jets, or even the Bills, but he wasn't going there.

    And I don't blame him for that, those places are where coaches go to die.

    So he ran to UM until he gets a better offer. Just like he has done his entire coaching career

    Oh god, your bias is just making you sound like an idiot. Yes, Harbaugh ran from all of his past jobs. How dare he succeed at each of his past stops and then use that success to move up...

    I am going to guess, after the success JH had in the NFL, a lot more than 3 teams were interested. Again, if he wanted to be in the NFL, he'd be there...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    How woody sees harbaugh 635744570737111693-espn1.jpg

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    I'm cool with crazy Banana Harbaugh

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @browns149 said:

    It was easy for him to leave the NFL for UM. He had no better offer.

    I'm sure the Raiders wanted him, or the Jets, or even the Bills, but he wasn't going there.

    And I don't blame him for that, those places are where coaches go to die.

    So he ran to UM until he gets a better offer. Just like he has done his entire coaching career

    Oh god, your bias is just making you sound like an idiot. Yes, Harbaugh ran from all of his past jobs. How dare he succeed at each of his past stops and then use that success to move up...

    I am going to guess, after the success JH had in the NFL, a lot more than 3 teams were interested. Again, if he wanted to be in the NFL, he'd be there...

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh god, your bias is just making you sound like an idiot. Yes, Harbaugh ran from all of his past jobs. How dare he succeed at each of his past stops and then use that success to move up...

    I am going to guess, after the success JH had in the NFL, a lot more than 3 teams were interested. Again, if he wanted to be in the NFL, he'd be there...

    If he had a decent offer in the NFL

    HE'D BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OFFER.

    you keep claiming, he had all these GREAT offer's

    He didn't have that offer. Just check the teams that had an opening.......................

    Once Andrew Luck becomes available, he will be right there to slurp it up.

    That is, if Urban, Or Saban doesn't take it first

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • NFL teams don't want to pay coaches as much as college programs do. I wouldn't worry too much about any of these guys leaving.

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    @mld-woody said:

    Oh god, your bias is just making you sound like an idiot. Yes, Harbaugh ran from all of his past jobs. How dare he succeed at each of his past stops and then use that success to move up...

    I am going to guess, after the success JH had in the NFL, a lot more than 3 teams were interested. Again, if he wanted to be in the NFL, he'd be there...

    If he had a decent offer in the NFL

    HE'D BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OFFER.

    you keep claiming, he had all these GREAT offer's

    He didn't have that offer. Just check the teams that had an opening.......................

    Once Andrew Luck becomes available, he will be right there to slurp it up.

    That is, if Urban, Or Saban doesn't take it first

    @browns149 said:

    If he had a decent offer in the NFL

    HE'D BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OFFER.

    you keep claiming, he had all these GREAT offer's

    He didn't have that offer. Just check the teams that had an opening.......................

    Once Andrew Luck becomes available, he will be right there to slurp it up.

    That is, if Urban, Or Saban doesn't take it first

    How do you know he didn't get a decent offer?

    Is it just possible he prefers being back home, at Michigan?

    NFL teams don't need to have an opening at coach to talk with a potential new coach...

    I don't see Urban or Saban going to the NFL.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • I can honestly see all the top college coaches going to the nfl if the situation is right. Maybe not to coach the browns but if the steelers job opened up? You've got to look at that

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • W wargograw

    NFL teams don't want to pay coaches as much as college programs do. I wouldn't worry too much about any of these guys leaving.

    @wargograw said:

    NFL teams don't want to pay coaches as much as college programs do. I wouldn't worry too much about any of these guys leaving.

    Are you sure about that? The college vs NFL pay thing?

    Also, I'm not too worried about money either way. JH turned down more money so that he had more to offer assistants (most of our assistants are NFL guys).

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Nah now that I look it up, the NFL is paying a lot more than I thought. However, do I think rabid fans of a top 15 program (not team, program) would win the bidding war against an NFL owner? Yes.

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  • W wargograw

    NFL teams don't want to pay coaches as much as college programs do. I wouldn't worry too much about any of these guys leaving.

    @wargograw said:

    NFL teams don't want to pay coaches as much as college programs do. I wouldn't worry too much about any of these guys leaving.

    There are 8 NFL head coaches that make over $6 million

    There is 1 college coach that makes over $6 million

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • See my last post.

  • W wargograw

    See my last post.

    @wargograw said:

    See my last post.

    I was looking at salaries when you posted it.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • W wargograw

    Nah now that I look it up, the NFL is paying a lot more than I thought. However, do I think rabid fans of a top 15 program (not team, program) would win the bidding war against an NFL owner? Yes.

    @wargograw said:

    Nah now that I look it up, the NFL is paying a lot more than I thought. However, do I think rabid fans of a top 15 program (not team, program) would win the bidding war against an NFL owner? Yes.

    So... in your hypothetical scenario where the entire Michigan fanbase gets to pool their money together to bid against one owner? Yeah sure. Especially since that fanbase includes an NFL owner, lol. Of course, this would never happen. In fact, the hypothetical scenario you presented does nothing for the point you were trying to make.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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