Heisman Trophy Race
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That's what you took from mt response? Lol ok
1) Why is Barret still on there? He didn't start.
2) Zeke is definitely your best shot. Will be the most consistent throughout the year I think. Very good shot to win.
3) I've seen Denard win the September Heisman multiple times. Let's slow down a little on Braxton (in response to another post). He had a hell of a first game though.
I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
If Clowney couldn't win it that one year, Bosa will need to have a hell of a year...though he was up against Johnny Funball.
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I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
If Clowney couldn't win it that one year, Bosa will need to have a hell of a year...though he was up against Johnny Funball.
If Clowney couldn't win it that one year, Bosa will need to have a hell of a year...though he was up against Johnny Funball.
If I recall, Clowney really shut down the engines his junior year. What could have been an every snap dominant player turned into one more worried about being paid; Save for a few flashes here and there.
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That's what you took from mt response? Lol ok
1) Why is Barret still on there? He didn't start.
2) Zeke is definitely your best shot. Will be the most consistent throughout the year I think. Very good shot to win.
3) I've seen Denard win the September Heisman multiple times. Let's slow down a little on Braxton (in response to another post). He had a hell of a first game though.
I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
Probably right about Bosa. Unless there is a DB somewhere that will play some O. Peppers probably will in a year or two, but not this year.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
If Clowney couldn't win it that one year, Bosa will need to have a hell of a year...though he was up against Johnny Funball.
If I recall, Clowney really shut down the engines his junior year. What could have been an every snap dominant player turned into one more worried about being paid; Save for a few flashes here and there.
If I recall, Clowney really shut down the engines his junior year. What could have been an every snap dominant player turned into one more worried about being paid; Save for a few flashes here and there.
Yeah, I meant the year he was good. The year he shut himself down was won by Jameis Winston.
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I am just giving you the list that others have put together. I am sure it was put together before Monday's game. I included Bosa in my OP because many many many people actually think HE is the best player in college football....and may be the #1 overall pick next year. But the Heisman race these days (or even way back when) is really an offensive player award. But if any defender should be considered for it this year, Bosa may be the guy.
(though his one game suspension could hurt)
Probably right about Bosa. Unless there is a DB somewhere that will play some O. Peppers probably will in a year or two, but not this year.
Probably right about Bosa. Unless there is a DB somewhere that will play some O. Peppers probably will in a year or two, but not this year.
Who is Peppers? Is he going for his Doctorate?
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A. Did you really not get the joke?
B. Why are you touting some random freshman from Michigan for Heisman consideration? A guy that plays defense no less? Maybe he will be as good as Marshon Lattimore someday. Probably not.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/player/marshon-lattimore/113889
C. Face it....if any Freshman is going to get Heisman run....it is going to be Josh Rosen QB UCLA
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A. Did you really not get the joke?
B. Why are you touting some random freshman from Michigan for Heisman consideration? A guy that plays defense no less? Maybe he will be as good as Marshon Lattimore someday. Probably not.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/player/marshon-lattimore/113889
C. Face it....if any Freshman is going to get Heisman run....it is going to be Josh Rosen QB UCLA
Oh boy, let's try againA. Did you really not get the joke?
B. Why are you touting some random freshman from Michigan for Heisman consideration? A guy that plays defense no less? Maybe he will be as good as Marshon Lattimore someday. Probably not.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/player/marshon-lattimore/113889
C. Face it....if any Freshman is going to get Heisman run....it is going to be Josh Rosen QB UCLA
A. I felt like ignoring the Dr Pepper joke.
B. I never said he'd win this year, or even said he'd be in consideration. The conversation was defensive players and their chance to win the Heisman. I was stating that is probably only going to ever happen if they played some offense and/or special teams as well (like Woodson). My example of a guy that might do that was Peppers. But I explicitly said in my post that probably won't happen this year. Not for a year or two, and then he might play some offense as well.
The guy was widely regarded as one of the best DB recruits and one of the best athletes to come out in a while. Both are still early in their career but saying he probably won't be better than your guy is foolish.
Follow along?
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Oh boy, let's try againA. Did you really not get the joke?
B. Why are you touting some random freshman from Michigan for Heisman consideration? A guy that plays defense no less? Maybe he will be as good as Marshon Lattimore someday. Probably not.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/player/marshon-lattimore/113889
C. Face it....if any Freshman is going to get Heisman run....it is going to be Josh Rosen QB UCLA
A. I felt like ignoring the Dr Pepper joke.
B. I never said he'd win this year, or even said he'd be in consideration. The conversation was defensive players and their chance to win the Heisman. I was stating that is probably only going to ever happen if they played some offense and/or special teams as well (like Woodson). My example of a guy that might do that was Peppers. But I explicitly said in my post that probably won't happen this year. Not for a year or two, and then he might play some offense as well.
The guy was widely regarded as one of the best DB recruits and one of the best athletes to come out in a while. Both are still early in their career but saying he probably won't be better than your guy is foolish.
Follow along?
Oh boy, let's try again
A. I felt like ignoring the Dr Pepper joke.
So you say now. Actually I think it just went over your head.
B. I never said he'd win this year, or even said he'd be in consideration.
I never said that you did say that.
The conversation was defensive players and their chance to win the Heisman.
OK, so, now you are contradicting yourself. first you said that you never said he would win or be in the conversation....and now you say we are talking about defensive players and their chance to win the Heisman. So, obviously dumb and dumber, by bringing up his name that means you think there's a chance.
I was stating that is probably only going to ever happen if they played some offense and/or special teams as well (like Woodson). My example of a guy that might do that was Peppers. But I explicitly said in my post that probably won't happen this year. Not for a year or two, and then he might play some offense as well.
So, you say there's a chance....at some point....even one in a million.
The guy was widely regarded as one of the best DB recruits and one of the best athletes to come out in a while.
Since he went to Michigan, I doubt it.
Both are still early in their career but saying he probably won't be better than your guy is foolish.
Not really.....lots of highly ranked players coming out of High School don't do diddley.
FYI e.g. I do not believe that JMZ, Winston, nor Mariota were even in the top 50 recuits the years they came out.
So, top recruits have track records that are all over the place....and some of the best performers are not even highly recruited.
Follow along?
You are going nowhere, so ,no.
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Holy fuck you're dense. I might try this again after work
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Holy fuck you're dense. I might try this again after work
I am not dense. I follow you perfectly. I just am not going to go along with your stupid shit. You can't handle the fact that someone disagrees with you....or thinks your line of reasoning is erroneous.
Just deal with it....and do not bother to try after work or any other time.
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