Peppers to the Pats.
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OUr #2 is higher than the Pats. We could certainly use him on the end. He is worth that pick. I would make that trade in a minute. Then can get Raji in the 1st to start on the other side... and another LB in the second.. That's how I'd roll..especially with the FA LB's we have brought in with who we already have...
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peppers has given carolina a list of teams that he'd accept a trade to, and he has to sign his franchise tender before he's allowed to be traded, which means that carolina actually has to arrange a trade to one of the four teams he's deemed acceptable.
we're in no way on that list.
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OUr #2 is higher than the Pats. We could certainly use him on the end. He is worth that pick. I would make that trade in a minute. Then can get Raji in the 1st to start on the other side... and another LB in the second.. That's how I'd roll..especially with the FA LB's we have brought in with who we already have...
OUr #2 is higher than the Pats. We could certainly use him on the end. He is worth that pick. I would make that trade in a minute. Then can get Raji in the 1st to start on the other side... and another LB in the second.. That's how I'd roll..especially with the FA LB's we have brought in with who we already have...
Man, I don't know....The #36 pick in the draft would be a lot for a guy heading into his 8th year.
He's a beast and all....But you are giving up a very good players at 36.
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This would be a coup if they can make it work, but they don't have the cap room to pull it off right now. There's more to this deal than they're suggesting now. Someone is going to have to be cut to afford Peppers' deal.
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I stand corrected.. the deal is done and they sent KC's #2 to carolina which is higher than our #2.. Pats win again..He has now been traded from what i saw on the ESPN tagline
I stand corrected.. the deal is done and they sent KC's #2 to carolina which is higher than our #2.. Pats win again..He has now been traded from what i saw on the ESPN tagline
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?
A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Try and think about it for a second. Say Matt Cassel is and has been a Brown. He had quarterbacked the Browns last year with really good results....Just as he did in New England.... Would you then send him and Vrabel to Carolina for Peppers?
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I stand corrected.. the deal is done and they sent KC's #2 to carolina which is higher than our #2.. Pats win again..He has now been traded from what i saw on the ESPN tagline
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?
A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Try and think about it for a second. Say Matt Cassel is and has been a Brown. He had quarterbacked the Browns last year with really good results....Just as he did in New England.... Would you then send him and Vrabel to Carolina for Peppers?
oldcow1945 said:
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Except that if they kept Cassel they would have over 14 mill PER QB going into their season. They dumped Cassel's salary and an old QB and upgraded at defense and still have all of their picks.
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oldcow1945 said:
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Except that if they kept Cassel they would have over 14 mill PER QB going into their season. They dumped Cassel's salary and an old QB and upgraded at defense and still have all of their picks.
Except that if they kept Cassel they would have over 14 mill PER QB going into their season. They dumped Cassel's salary and an old QB and upgraded at defense and still have all of their picks.
But they have to pay Peppers too. It's not like they are getting him at no cost.
With his incentive Bonuses, his last contract could have been a cost up to 50 million for the Panthers.
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Except that if they kept Cassel they would have over 14 mill PER QB going into their season. They dumped Cassel's salary and an old QB and upgraded at defense and still have all of their picks.
But they have to pay Peppers too. It's not like they are getting him at no cost.
With his incentive Bonuses, his last contract could have been a cost up to 50 million for the Panthers.
oldcow1945 said:
But they have to pay Peppers too. It's not like they are getting him at no cost.With his incentive Bonuses, his last contract could have been a cost up to 50 million for the Panthers.
But that will be renegotiated and will not impact the Pats for 14 mill this season.
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I stand corrected.. the deal is done and they sent KC's #2 to carolina which is higher than our #2.. Pats win again..He has now been traded from what i saw on the ESPN tagline
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?
A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Try and think about it for a second. Say Matt Cassel is and has been a Brown. He had quarterbacked the Browns last year with really good results....Just as he did in New England.... Would you then send him and Vrabel to Carolina for Peppers?
oldcow1945 said:
In the end you can almost look at as though they traded Vrabel and Cassel for Peppers....is that such a great deal?A guy heading into his 8th year for an old LB and a Qb that could end up being a great one?
I guess time will tell. But this is one that historians could look back on and say the Patriots really screwed themselves.
Try and think about it for a second. Say Matt Cassel is and has been a Brown. He had quarterbacked the Browns last year with really good results....Just as he did in New England.... Would you then send him and Vrabel to Carolina for Peppers?
first, this deal isn't done. it's not on ESPN, not on rotoworld, not on PFT. it might happen, but it's not yet a done deal.
if it does happen, vrabel and cassel for peppers is a great deal. while cassel might turn out to be good, he's only had success while in a QB-oriented offense with two great receivers to throw to plus a supporting cast that's easily better than average. he had the prime, ideal situation for success, and he performed adequately. however, while cassel played well, they pats still have tom brady, one of the top 3 QBs in the game today, which makes cassel completely expendable regardless of his age.
the pats effectively used a bargaining chip at a position of depth to massively upgrade a position of need with a great player. the wild card will be peppers learning an entirely new position and scheme, but he's got the athletic ability to do it. the mental side (trusting the scheme and his instincts) will be what really determines whether he has success.
this is what we should have done with derek anderson had the FO had any real confidence in quinn.
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