***Official Browns @ New York Jets Game Day Thread***
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I'll have to go back and watch tape. Oline made a few nice holes, the backs missed a few cuts, Jets made some plays. They have a terrific run defense, so if you're not on your A+ it will smoother you.
Losing McCown hurt. He's capable because we clearly have great pass protection which allows us to get away with not having elite receivers. C
On defense, the interior looked beyond improved compared to last year. We really didnt give up chunk yardage until the later stages of the game. By then the defense was showing wear and bad field position from the offense didn't help at all.
Mistakes, turnovers were the costly part of this game. The Jets dId nothing special. They played the way Pettine and co invision this team. Run the rock, makes some plays passing, don't put the defense in awful positions and most importantly don't turn the ball over.
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Ran for 104... allowed 154...
We lost the trench war... both ways.
I expect the O-line grading to be painful.
12 penalties totaling 109 yards.
Pretty much game over right there... and then there were the turnovers.
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I don't envy you the line grading tour-we were really bad both sides of the LOS.
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Ran for 104... allowed 154...
We lost the trench war... both ways.
I expect the O-line grading to be painful.
12 penalties totaling 109 yards.
Pretty much game over right there... and then there were the turnovers.
.Ran for 104... allowed 154...
We lost the trench war... both ways.
I expect the O-line grading to be painful.
12 penalties totaling 109 yards.
Pretty much game over right there... and then there were the turnovers.
Of those 154 - how much allowed in the late 3rd and 4th qtr?
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We should have kept West, Winn and Pryor. Those were somewhat difference makers. Turbin won't be available for a month. Petting talked about Pryor not being healthy enough to compete in preseason and then keeps old injured Dud Bowe and trades Billy fucking Winn for an injured runningback. Comeplete and utter bullshit. I can't wait until Farmer comes back, I was optimistic all offseason but today was fucking trash.
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I would say - "Same Old Browns" . . . but I think they've actually regressed.
Mercifully, my feed was crap, so I missed most of it.
Outside of McCown & Manziel, we had 46 yds Rushing on 20 Carries . . . 2.3 yds ave O_O
We gave up 154 yds on the ground @ 4.3 a pop,
Second year, wasn't the D supposed to be better?
It's not like the Jets are a Championship Team (4-12 last year) . . . I hate to see what our Record will be like if things don't snap PDQ, this is the easy part of the Schedule.
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When McCown tried to be superman, and left the game, that was a bad omen, then the INT and gives up the ball...
penalties all over. First game jitters, mistakes...
but they played serious football. Just didn't go well. And the Jets are not the Jags.
Missed Orchard and Cooper on the pass rush, missed Bowe. And one of these days, I want to see
the Browns run a screen. What is up with that? Dray killed em, the Browns are just learning about their
defense....
It's only the first game. Against a playoff caliber team. And things went wrong.
The Browns will be okay - it may take a few games. Give em a break. They played
tough as hell.
Meanwhile, don't be whining that Hoyer woulda done nothin. He got benched. It's one game. Don't be Eyore.
The Jets are not a playoff caliber team.When McCown tried to be superman, and left the game, that was a bad omen, then the INT and gives up the ball...
penalties all over. First game jitters, mistakes...
It's only the first game. Against a playoff caliber team. And things went wrong.
The Browns will be okay - it may take a few games. Give em a break. They played
tough as hell.
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The jets did this to us today:
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West went 7/23 today against Tampa's defense which is the worst in the league.. he's not useful, better we got a 6th for him than cut him. Also, Winn wouldn't have done anything - better to get the late pick than cut him as well.
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One thing that made me crack up today was when they showed the replay of McCown running on the play he got concussed. He's got this look of sure determination chugging his heart out and when he gets helicoptered it looked like he died. So thanks for the laugh if anything?
As usual nowhere to go but up from here. The titans suddenly look like a tough matchup so we'll see how it goes.
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It's 11pm Saturday night, and I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!................ G O B R O W N S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can't be THAT excited for this upcoming season. It's like groundhog day, how much more losing do we have to do before you just enter the first game already in pissed off mid-season form?
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When McCown tried to be superman, and left the game, that was a bad omen, then the INT and gives up the ball...
penalties all over. First game jitters, mistakes...
but they played serious football. Just didn't go well. And the Jets are not the Jags.
Missed Orchard and Cooper on the pass rush, missed Bowe. And one of these days, I want to see
the Browns run a screen. What is up with that? Dray killed em, the Browns are just learning about their
defense....
It's only the first game. Against a playoff caliber team. And things went wrong.
The Browns will be okay - it may take a few games. Give em a break. They played
tough as hell.
Meanwhile, don't be whining that Hoyer woulda done nothin. He got benched. It's one game. Don't be Eyore.
When McCown tried to be superman, and left the game, that was a bad omen, then the INT and gives up the ball...
penalties all over. First game jitters, mistakes...
but they played serious football. Just didn't go well. And the Jets are not the Jags.
Missed Orchard and Cooper on the pass rush, missed Bowe. And one of these days, I want to see
the Browns run a screen. What is up with that? Dray killed em, the Browns are just learning about their
defense....
It's only the first game. Against a playoff caliber team. And things went wrong.
The Browns will be okay - it may take a few games. Give em a break. They played
tough as hell.
Meanwhile, don't be whining that Hoyer woulda done nothin. He got benched. It's one game. Don't be Eyore.
Playoff caliber team, the Jets??? Come on dude , Geno & Fitz ?
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We should have kept West, Winn and Pryor. Those were somewhat difference makers. Turbin won't be available for a month. Petting talked about Pryor not being healthy enough to compete in preseason and then keeps old injured Dud Bowe and trades Billy fucking Winn for an injured runningback. Comeplete and utter bullshit. I can't wait until Farmer comes back, I was optimistic all offseason but today was fucking trash.
Petting... trades Billy fucking Winn for an injured runningback. Comeplete and utter bullshit. I can't wait until Farmer comes back...
The football knowledge on display is breathtaking...
The titans suddenly look like a tough(er) matchup so we'll see how it goes.
Fixed...
The Prophet Soju wins again.
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Of those 154 - how much allowed in the late 3rd and 4th qtr?
59 in the 4th...
53 total in the 3rd...
Your point is we gave up?
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Ran for 104... allowed 154...
We lost the trench war... both ways.
I expect the O-line grading to be painful.
12 penalties totaling 109 yards.
Pretty much game over right there... and then there were the turnovers.
Ran for 104... allowed 154...
We lost the trench war... both ways.
I expect the O-line grading to be painful.
12 penalties totaling 109 yards.
Pretty much game over right there... and then there were the turnovers.
Amen!
BOTH our lines got beaten like AP's son. Shelton played 3 downs consistently in college. He wasn't out there today in passing situations & it showed! What's up with not seeing what happens with him out there?
Don't put this one all on the players, COACHES.....You guys did a poor job in this one. We have too much talent to look this bad.
Mike
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Of those 154 - how much allowed in the late 3rd and 4th qtr?
59 in the 4th...
53 total in the 3rd...
Your point is we gave up?
59 in the 4th...
53 total in the 3rd...
Your point is we gave up?
My point is, not so much we gave up - but were showing signs of wearing down. The offense simply couldn't sustain drives and twice put the defense in
very bad spots.
I'm usually realistic but I'm rather encouraged by the run defense from things I saw. Now the pass rush just needs to improve. I think with Orchard and Cooper in the rotation that will pick up.
I honestly do believe this game falls on mental errors and turn overs, not so much scheme and talent. Save for maybe the QB position.
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When McCown tried to be superman, and left the game, that was a bad omen, then the INT and gives up the ball...
penalties all over. First game jitters, mistakes...
but they played serious football. Just didn't go well. And the Jets are not the Jags.
Missed Orchard and Cooper on the pass rush, missed Bowe. And one of these days, I want to see
the Browns run a screen. What is up with that? Dray killed em, the Browns are just learning about their
defense....
It's only the first game. Against a playoff caliber team. And things went wrong.
The Browns will be okay - it may take a few games. Give em a break. They played
tough as hell.
Meanwhile, don't be whining that Hoyer woulda done nothin. He got benched. It's one game. Don't be Eyore.
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