Marcus Mariota is Terrible
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I think the point is: if you're Tampa right now you have to be wondering. They're booing Winston who looks like he needs time to develop. I thought Mariota would be the project and Winston the more NFL ready. Wrong!
No matter: both these guys will be fine.
As for us: Manziel will need to play before I say anything. I need to see more.
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Wow, Mariota hung 42 puts on the Bucs.
Aren't they the defending Super Bowl champs?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I remember hearing the same about RG3 from Skins fans.
It's pretty dumb to create a thread like this based on one game.
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I think the point is: if you're Tampa right now you have to be wondering. They're booing Winston who looks like he needs time to develop. I thought Mariota would be the project and Winston the more NFL ready. Wrong!
No matter: both these guys will be fine.
As for us: Manziel will need to play before I say anything. I need to see more.
Manziel will need to play before I say anything. I need to see more.
You need to see more? Let me tell you how it will go, standing in the pocket for about .3 seconds cause he can't see over the line, a bunch of fumbles cause he thinks holding the ball with one hand is good enough, toss in a few interceptions and that's a world class performence for ole Johnny Cocaine
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He clearly wouldn't have helped the Browns.
Clearly. You guys are geniuses.
He clearly wouldn't have helped the Browns.
Clearly. You guys are geniuses.
Tampa blows. We'll see how he does against our shitty defense next week.
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Manziel will need to play before I say anything. I need to see more.
You need to see more? Let me tell you how it will go, standing in the pocket for about .3 seconds cause he can't see over the line, a bunch of fumbles cause he thinks holding the ball with one hand is good enough, toss in a few interceptions and that's a world class performence for ole Johnny Cocaine
You need to see more? Let me tell you how it will go, standing in the pocket for about .3 seconds cause he can't see over the line, a bunch of fumbles cause he thinks holding the ball with one hand is good enough, toss in a few interceptions and that's a world class performence for ole Johnny Cocaine
You're an idiot. He was about the only bright spot today.
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I don't pretend to know what this post means, but last I looked the Titans took Marcus with the 2nd pick of the draft, which they and they alone possessed. Are you saying that the Browns should have offered an RG3 / Ricky Williams like bounty to jump up to #2 to take the QB?
Not sure what Marcus has to do with the Browns.
I don't pretend to know what this post means, but last I looked the Titans took Marcus with the 2nd pick of the draft, which they and they alone possessed. Are you saying that the Browns should have offered an RG3 / Ricky Williams like bounty to jump up to #2 to take the QB?
Not sure what Marcus has to do with the Browns.
The point is less that we could have gotten him and more that an overwhelming majority here believed him to be a gimmicky QB who wouldn't translate to the NFL.
The reason for this shitty "evaluation" was based more on what RG3 couldn't do rather than what Mariota could.
So, all in all, the point is that most people here are shit evaluators.
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I don't pretend to know what this post means, but last I looked the Titans took Marcus with the 2nd pick of the draft, which they and they alone possessed. Are you saying that the Browns should have offered an RG3 / Ricky Williams like bounty to jump up to #2 to take the QB?
Not sure what Marcus has to do with the Browns.
The point is less that we could have gotten him and more that an overwhelming majority here believed him to be a gimmicky QB who wouldn't translate to the NFL.
The reason for this shitty "evaluation" was based more on what RG3 couldn't do rather than what Mariota could.
So, all in all, the point is that most people here are shit evaluators.
The point is less that we could have gotten him and more that an overwhelming majority here believed him to be a gimmicky QB who wouldn't translate to the NFL.
The reason for this shitty "evaluation" was based more on what RG3 couldn't do rather than what Mariota could.
So, all in all, the point is that most people here are shit evaluators.
Fair enough
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Wow, Mariota hung 42 puts on the Bucs.
Aren't they the defending Super Bowl champs?
Wow, Mariota hung 42 puts on the Bucs.
Aren't they the defending Super Bowl champs?
Sure did beat us, though.
And the likes of Rodgers, Stafford, Flacco, Brees, Roethlisberger and Newton weren't able to drop 4 TD's on them last year...they must all be schlubs too.
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Before we anoint Marcus as the next Montana, let's all remember the image of RG3 sitting on his butt with both hands in the air holding 1 finger up, on his opening day debut....... Seems like a lifetime ago - ask a Skins fan.
I like Marcus (I'm a SoCal UCLA Pac 12 guy) and would guess that I have seen him play as much as anyone on this forum, but lets wait for maybe 8 or 9 quarters of ball before we bronze his statue.
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Before we anoint Marcus as the next Montana, let's all remember the image of RG3 sitting on his butt with both hands in the air holding 1 finger up, on his opening day debut....... Seems like a lifetime ago - ask a Skins fan.
I like Marcus (I'm a SoCal UCLA Pac 12 guy) and would guess that I have seen him play as much as anyone on this forum, but lets wait for maybe 8 or 9 quarters of ball before we bronze his statue.
, but lets wait for maybe 8 or 9 quarters of ball before we bronze his statue.
why?......when we can all over react and lose our minds before game 1 is even over????..(not pickin at u D, just using the quote)
Honestly find it unbelievable how people react instantly when someone has "a" good game or "a" bad game.....
Should just cancel the season and start the playoffs today since we now know who is great and who sucks....
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tim couch is now putting his money behind conner cook i bet.
right couch?
then when he blows he'll just pull his neck and hands back from the ground and disappear like a fart in the wind.
brandon weeden? red headed gun-slinger? LOL.
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Let's all admit, if Mariotta had played his first game for the browns like he did with the Titans, everyone would have woke up with with dreams last night.
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tim couch is now putting his money behind conner cook i bet.
right couch?
then when he blows he'll just pull his neck and hands back from the ground and disappear like a fart in the wind.
brandon weeden? red headed gun-slinger? LOL.
tim couch is now putting his money behind conner cook i bet.
right couch?
then when he blows he'll just pull his neck and hands back from the ground and disappear like a fart in the wind.
brandon weeden? red headed gun-slinger? LOL.
I never put my money behind Weeden. And I won't put anything behind Cook until I see what he does this year.
But I did put my money behind Mariota, and he looked awfully damn good yesterday. As I said before, just because he ran in Oregon doesn't mean he can't throw in the NFL.
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Well, regardless he don't play for the Browns so it doesn't mean anything.
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You need to see more? Let me tell you how it will go, standing in the pocket for about .3 seconds cause he can't see over the line, a bunch of fumbles cause he thinks holding the ball with one hand is good enough, toss in a few interceptions and that's a world class performence for ole Johnny Cocaine
You're an idiot. He was about the only bright spot today.
You're an idiot. He was about the only bright spot today.
What bright spot? He threw about one good ball the whole day, thats exactly how he plays, won't stand in the pocket
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I liked Mariota, and he showed yesterday why...
Maybe next year we'll sack up and draft a real QB...
Either way, McCown looked good before he tried to Superman it into the endzone. It's a whole different game if he doesn't get hurt IMHO...
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You're an idiot. He was about the only bright spot today.
What bright spot? He threw about one good ball the whole day, thats exactly how he plays, won't stand in the pocket
What bright spot? He threw about one good ball the whole day, thats exactly how he plays, won't stand in the pocket
This is wrong. He made plenty of good throws, and a couple bad ones: INT & High throw to Hawkins while rolling left.
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He clearly wouldn't have helped the Browns.
Clearly. You guys are geniuses.
He clearly wouldn't have helped the Browns.
Clearly. You guys are geniuses.
Clearly, Mariota had enough questions that the Browns didn't think two firsts, a second and Joe Haden were worth the risk to move up either.
The point is less that we could have gotten him and more that an overwhelming majority here believed him to be a gimmicky QB who wouldn't translate to the NFL.
The reason for this shitty "evaluation" was based more on what RG3 couldn't do rather than what Mariota could.
So, all in all, the point is that most people here are shit evaluators.
So if you redo past drafts most NFL teams are shit evaluators- especially the Browns. 2011 case in point. They not only passed on Julio Jones- they also blew it on JJ Watt for good measure. Traded down to take super stud Phil Taylor instead. Clay Matthews Jr, Brian Urlacher, man I could go on and on. But I'm not about to rehash another litany of Browns blown first round picks.
For the record- I was hesitant on Mariota too. But I sure as hell didn't want Weeden or Manziel- so put me one step ahead of the Brown's scouting department in that regard.
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