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  • Non existent again, Kruger was so slow yesterday, why were both Orchard and Cooper inactive, from what I gather neither are injured?

    We made Fitzpatrick look like Tom Brady

  • half the league makes Fitz look like Brady. he's better than a lot of guys...Grossman, Sanchez, Red Rifle, Cutler, even neck beard.

  • Fitzpatrick is the best non-franchise QB in the league (and he is better now than a few franchise QBs). I would have probably taken him over McCown.

    Not activating those guys strikes me as pretty Retard. As was getting rid of Billy Winn.

  • Orchard is injured(back).....Cooper?, I dont know why.......Winn?....cmon, who on the DL should we have cut instead?......

  • half the league makes Fitz look like Brady. he's better than a lot of guys...Grossman, Sanchez, Red Rifle, Cutler, even neck beard.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    half the league makes Fitz look like Brady. he's better than a lot of guys...Grossman, Sanchez, Red Rifle, Cutler, even neck beard.

    If believing this makes you feel better go for it. Forget about the total lack of pressure Fitz was under and if personal or coaching was a factor ? The trading/waiving of DL depth ?No, it was just the hidden excellence of the NFLs greatest non franchise career journeyman QB......yeah, thats the ticket
  • @sisky-fringo said:

    half the league makes Fitz look like Brady. he's better than a lot of guys...Grossman, Sanchez, Red Rifle, Cutler, even neck beard.

    If believing this makes you feel better go for it. Forget about the total lack of pressure Fitz was under and if personal or coaching was a factor ? The trading/waiving of DL depth ?No, it was just the hidden excellence of the NFLs greatest non franchise career journeyman QB......yeah, thats the ticket

    @furious-styles said:

    If believing this makes you feel better go for it. Forget about the total lack of pressure Fitz was under and if personal or coaching was a factor. No, it was just the hidden excellence of the NFLs greatest non franchise career journeyman QB......yeah, thats the ticket

    Go back to grade school and learn how to write the English language coherently.

  • agreed War. i'm still butt hurt about losing Winn if i'm being honest. he was a steal, acceptably productive, and cheap. he got the D off the field consistently in preseason game 4. like a starter playing against backups, which is kinda what i saw him as that day.

    let's talk Mingo. it's like his charisma in interviews gives him a pass or something. in reality, he hasn't really shown shit for 6th(was it?) overall in the draft. but he did have a nice pass deflection that coulda been a TD yesterday.

  • Orchard is injured(back).....Cooper?, I dont know why.......Winn?....cmon, who on the DL should we have cut instead?......

    @mudfly said:

    Orchard is injured(back).....Cooper?, I dont know why.......Winn?....cmon, who on the DL should we have cut instead?......

    Why did we have to cut a DL? In college football championships are won with DL depth. I'm still learning the pro game intricacies. I wanted Housler or Bibbs cut.

  • @furious-styles said:

    If believing this makes you feel better go for it. Forget about the total lack of pressure Fitz was under and if personal or coaching was a factor. No, it was just the hidden excellence of the NFLs greatest non franchise career journeyman QB......yeah, thats the ticket

    Go back to grade school and learn how to write the English language coherently.

    @wargograw said:

    Go back to grade school and learn how to write the English language coherently.

    Only if I can take that crap QB idiot face turnover machine from T A&M with me !
  • Wow. I am admittedly easily trollable but that was a truly awful attempt.

  • @mudfly said:

    Orchard is injured(back).....Cooper?, I dont know why.......Winn?....cmon, who on the DL should we have cut instead?......

    Why did we have to cut a DL? In college football championships are won with DL depth. I'm still learning the pro game intricacies. I wanted Housler or Bibbs cut.

    @wargograw said:

    Why did we have to cut a DL? In college football championships are won with DL depth. I'm still learning the pro game intricacies. I wanted Housler or Bibbs cut.

    I woulda cut a TE too.....but not to keep DL.....woulda gone for RB and/or OL depth......

    Guess I just dont see how our 7th or 8th D Lineman(who woulda been inactive anyway) has anything to do with yesterdays game....

    Cooper wasnt even active and he's well ahead of Winn.....

  • Did Mingo blitz even one time yesterday?

    He dropped in coverage and tipped that touchdown pass (which was nice) but what is the deal with that? The guy should be fast enough to get around the edge once or twice a game....

  • Mingo played about 20% of the snaps yesterday. I'll have to watch the tape (or defer to someone more knowledgeable) but from the snap counts, it looks like we ran a lot of four man fronts, with Dansby and Kirksey/Robertson as the only backers, and 5 DBs.

  • Wow. I am admittedly easily trollable but that was a truly awful attempt.

    @wargograw said:

    Wow. I am admittedly easily trollable but that was a truly awful attempt.

    i dunno, i tried and couldn't get ya. lol

    don't sell yourself stockton short.

  • Mingo played about 20% of the snaps yesterday. I'll have to watch the tape (or defer to someone more knowledgeable) but from the snap counts, it looks like we ran a lot of four man fronts, with Dansby and Kirksey/Robertson as the only backers, and 5 DBs.

    @gftchris said:

    Mingo played about 20% of the snaps yesterday. I'll have to watch the tape (or defer to someone more knowledgeable) but from the snap counts, it looks like we ran a lot of four man fronts, with Dansby and Kirsey/Robertson as the only backers, and 5 DBs.

    well that's a pretty darn expensive coverage linebacker. he's my Old Man's go-to to pick on...and he's getting really hard to defend.

  • The worst thing about the pass rush was that even when we

    blitzed we couldn't get there. The defense was supposed to be this

    team's strength but it looks like the same old same old-- can't stop

    the run and no pass rush.Did anyone doubt the Jets would take it

    down the field and score at the end of the first half? This team has the

    worst defense in the NFL in the last 2 minutes of each half.

  • Did Mingo blitz even one time yesterday?

    He dropped in coverage and tipped that touchdown pass (which was nice) but what is the deal with that? The guy should be fast enough to get around the edge once or twice a game....

    @hx214 said:

    Did Mingo blitz even one time yesterday?

    He dropped in coverage and tipped that touchdown pass (which was nice) but what is the deal with that? The guy should be fast enough to get around the edge once or twice a game....

    Did the Browns even blitz?....for someone who LOVES blitz packages, it just didnt happen very often at all....

    And, when they blitz, it aint ever Mingo.....he's pretty much been assigned to cover backer....

    @gftchris said:

    Mingo played about 20% of the snaps yesterday. I'll have to watch the tape (or defer to someone more knowledgeable) but from the snap counts, it looks like we ran a lot of four man fronts, with Dansby and Kirsey/Robertson as the only backers, and 5 DBs.

    13 snaps to be exact.....(and 7 were run plays)......

  • Mingo - there's a contract that won't be renewed. Hopefully Orchard can step up because Soloman looks mediocre at best and Kruger needs some help.

  • My bad I didn't know Orchard was injured.