Should the NFL just take over this team?
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Seriously. We just had our best season in 5 years, avoiding double digit losses for the first time in that long. We had some low moments but we had some great moments (crushing the steelers and bengals for example). And after one game of the new season, people are bitching and whining?
Seriously. We just had our best season in 5 years, avoiding double digit losses for the first time in that long. We had some low moments but we had some great moments (crushing the steelers and bengals for example). And after one game of the new season, people are bitching and whining?
Oh...give em more credit than that.../..they were bitching and whining by the second quarter......and still are.....
16 more weeks of tantrum coming up.....the main reason I am elated my kids are grown and gone.....
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@douche-nozzle said:
This is all true but a huge majority of Cleveland fans only want to win now and aren't willing to allow success to breed and the ownership and front office seems to play to that audience.
Too early to lay that charge on Haslam. I think Haslam knows he has some good people in place and showed it with Pettine after a disappointing finish to last season and Haslam being one of the first owners to show support to their HC.
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I don't know... 3 or 4 of these trolls sound like the same idiot.
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I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that our realistically winnable games are pretty much now aren't they? Doesn't this schedule become horrible as the season goes on? Like after Oakland the only game I can't see us losing is against the 9'ers, that's practically Christmas. We might eek out a game or two against maybe the Chargers or Cardinals, albeit doubtful...but other than that where are the wins going to come against? Next week in Tn is no gimme either as it looks like Mariota ain't half bad, although that was Tampa he put one on.
We needed these first couple games to make a halfway decent season of it. I was hoping we'd go 3-0 or at worst 2-1 to start the season, maybe we can still do that I dunno. Do that and play halfway respectable throughout the season and maybe we can hang our hat on something, but seriously did you see anything in the way they came out and played yesterday that says these guys were chomping at the bit to make a season of it? It's like they're already kind of phoning it in.
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@douche-nozzle said:
... a huge majority of Cleveland fans only want to win now and aren't willing to allow success to breed and the ownership and front office seems to play to that audience.
Dumbest Douche post ever...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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@douche-nozzle said:
... a huge majority of Cleveland fans only want to win now and aren't willing to allow success to breed and the ownership and front office seems to play to that audience.
Dumbest Douche post ever...
Dumbest Douche post ever...
Well Tour- just the facts.
http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story/browns-set-nfl-record-in-season-opening-loss-091415
Eleven openers lost in a row- new NFL record. 16 out of 17. Welcome to Groundhog Day.
Two winning seasons since 1999. I don't think it's unreasonable to start expecting better. Soon.
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Fans should buy team and sign Josh Lenz and Josh Cooper, trade for Brian Hoyer and then get Josh Cribbs back to return kicks. That's the ticket.
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It's coaching and new management. We will know more after a few games. But I sure don't think having Goodell take over is the answer. I hate that guy!
We probably need an offensive coordinator and maybe better play calling. Instead of reaching for another journeyman QB, coach what you have! They need a better system on both sides of the ball. Use the 4-3 more and activate Gaines, Cooper and Bowe. Next year get a stud wide receiver and Ezekiel Elliot.
How can anyone expect Manziel to perform without weapons. Every team has a weapon. Except us!
Bengals AJ Green and Hill
Steelers Brown and Bell
Patriots Tom And Gronk
Giants BeckhamJr
Etc etc
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Last season we won 2 games vs playoff teams, Bengals and Steelers. 5 other wins Saints 7-9 , Bucs 2-14, Raiders 3-13 , Titans 2-14 & Falcons 6-10. Viewed on this board as a step forward viewed by the rest of the NFL as predicting 5-11 for 2015-16
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Where is Jimmah Haslam? Haven't heard from him yet. Hopefully we turn this shit around and soon. I always have the faith we will.
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Some douche is trying to crowd-source Browns fans to buy the team from Haslam.
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@douche-nozzle said:
I don't know? It's pretty hard to excuse his involvement in the Manziel issue if in fact he was involved. The Browns need to let the fans and media know that this mess can't be fixed overnight and that they have a system and a plan in place rather than trying to win today to please the fans.
You really have no clue what you are talking about. In the last 16 years the Browns have on playoff game and two winning seasons. 11 times in 16 years they have won fewer than 6 games. The Steelers haven't come close to that ineptitude since the 1960s.
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Some douche is trying to crowd-source Browns fans to buy the team from Haslam.
Some douche is trying to crowd-source Browns fans to buy the team from Haslam.
Fools are born every minute.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Hoorta, there is no doubt that the fans have more than enough right to want to win but it really doesn't matter how much they want it or even deserve it. It just doesn't happen that way.
You are correct- but this level of continual ineptitude in my book even surpasses the suckiness stretch of the Bungles a few years back. Even in the 70s- which I'm old enough to remember- at least the Browns pulled a few decent seasons out later in the decade in the Sipe- Newsome- Matthews years. Some of the younger fans aren't old enough to remember the last time the Browns put together back to back winning seasons.
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@douche-nozzle said:
I know. But the simple bottom line is that when you combine the poor drafting, and the circus environment the limited talent team has to play in, it simply isn't going to turn around in a flash. All I am saying is that the history of the Browns has everything to do with the fans desires and everything to do with the size of the hole that must be climbed out of.
Agreed. If this team should start out 0-3, or 0-4 it's going to get real ugly, real fast.
If football is won in the trenches, having a great o and d line had better be the answer.
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