y'all realize how important the TN game is right?
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my hand is "hovering" over the panic button. And only because it looks like we've regressed. Defensively we're exactly the same but offensively we look like we've taken major steps backward. It's not like this defense is gonna keep games close. Don't forget that a lot of our wins last year we had to score over 20 points...does anyone see this years defense keeping us in games when the offense scores 10-15 points?
So my finer is hovering until after the TN game. If we shit the bed against TN you can call it. For whatever reason the team just doesn't want to play for Pettine if they put out like they did against NY. And because i'm in no mood for another coaching change, get rid of anybody that doesn't want to fire out for coach Pet.
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my hand is "hovering" over the panic button. And only because it looks like we've regressed. Defensively we're exactly the same but offensively we look like we've taken major steps backward. It's not like this defense is gonna keep games close. Don't forget that a lot of our wins last year we had to score over 20 points...does anyone see this years defense keeping us in games when the offense scores 10-15 points?
So my finer is hovering until after the TN game. If we shit the bed against TN you can call it. For whatever reason the team just doesn't want to play for Pettine if they put out like they did against NY. And because i'm in no mood for another coaching change, get rid of anybody that doesn't want to fire out for coach Pet.
my hand is "hovering" over the panic button. And only because it looks like we've regressed. Defensively we're exactly the same but offensively we look like we've taken major steps backward. It's not like this defense is gonna keep games close. Don't forget that a lot of our wins last year we had to score over 20 points...does anyone see this years defense keeping us in games when the offense scores 10-15 points?
So my finer is hovering until after the TN game. If we shit the bed against TN you can call it. For whatever reason the team just doesn't want to play for Pettine if they put out like they did against NY. And because i'm in no mood for another coaching change, get rid of anybody that doesn't want to fire out for coach Pet.
I think people don't give enough credence to momentum and motivation in how it effects outcomes of games. We would've scored on the first drive of the game if not for McCown's blunder. That blunder demoralized the team, and demoralized people make mistakes either because they lose focus (12 penalties) or try too hard to do something (too many turnovers). The Gipson int followed by his fumble was another big blow.
On paper, this team is better than last year at QB, WR, OL, DL, DB, and special teams. So let's not project the performance against the Jets across the entire season. I don't agree this team doesn't want to play for Pettine. The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
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my hand is "hovering" over the panic button. And only because it looks like we've regressed. Defensively we're exactly the same but offensively we look like we've taken major steps backward. It's not like this defense is gonna keep games close. Don't forget that a lot of our wins last year we had to score over 20 points...does anyone see this years defense keeping us in games when the offense scores 10-15 points?
So my finer is hovering until after the TN game. If we shit the bed against TN you can call it. For whatever reason the team just doesn't want to play for Pettine if they put out like they did against NY. And because i'm in no mood for another coaching change, get rid of anybody that doesn't want to fire out for coach Pet.
I think people don't give enough credence to momentum and motivation in how it effects outcomes of games. We would've scored on the first drive of the game if not for McCown's blunder. That blunder demoralized the team, and demoralized people make mistakes either because they lose focus (12 penalties) or try too hard to do something (too many turnovers). The Gipson int followed by his fumble was another big blow.
On paper, this team is better than last year at QB, WR, OL, DL, DB, and special teams. So let's not project the performance against the Jets across the entire season. I don't agree this team doesn't want to play for Pettine. The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
You're not entirely wrong but the problem I have with the defense is that it shouldn't matter what the offense was doing. If the defense had kept it closer "maybe" the offense could have stuck with some things and maybe gotten another TD and/or FG. But the defense let the Jets get away so then it was all on JM's arm...and we're not gonna win hardly any games this year if we have to rely on JM winging it downfield.
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my hand is "hovering" over the panic button. And only because it looks like we've regressed. Defensively we're exactly the same but offensively we look like we've taken major steps backward. It's not like this defense is gonna keep games close. Don't forget that a lot of our wins last year we had to score over 20 points...does anyone see this years defense keeping us in games when the offense scores 10-15 points?
So my finer is hovering until after the TN game. If we shit the bed against TN you can call it. For whatever reason the team just doesn't want to play for Pettine if they put out like they did against NY. And because i'm in no mood for another coaching change, get rid of anybody that doesn't want to fire out for coach Pet.
I think people don't give enough credence to momentum and motivation in how it effects outcomes of games. We would've scored on the first drive of the game if not for McCown's blunder. That blunder demoralized the team, and demoralized people make mistakes either because they lose focus (12 penalties) or try too hard to do something (too many turnovers). The Gipson int followed by his fumble was another big blow.
On paper, this team is better than last year at QB, WR, OL, DL, DB, and special teams. So let's not project the performance against the Jets across the entire season. I don't agree this team doesn't want to play for Pettine. The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
I think people don't give enough credence to momentum and motivation in how it effects outcomes of games. We would've scored on the first drive of the game if not for McCown's blunder. That blunder demoralized the team, and demoralized people make mistakes either because they lose focus (12 penalties) or try too hard to do something (too many turnovers). The Gipson int followed by his fumble was another big blow.
On paper, this team is better than last year at QB, WR, OL, DL, DB, and special teams. So let's not project the performance against the Jets across the entire season. I don't agree this team doesn't want to play for Pettine. The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
I think you forget we're 7-0 up after one series of the JFF 2.0 era. We should be pumped that our backup can come in and hit a TD pass in his first series. But then, things happen to suck the momentum - missing a gimme TD to Hawkins, the INT-fumble, the INT, that's a swing of 18 points that killed the game. Because if those things don't happen, we're 14-0 up at the half...
Sure, hindsight, but still, it didn't just go to shit when McCown got injured. Slightly after.
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good point chris....I know the bar where I was at in akron was "pumped" after the pass to Benjamin.
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I think people don't give enough credence to momentum and motivation in how it effects outcomes of games. We would've scored on the first drive of the game if not for McCown's blunder. That blunder demoralized the team, and demoralized people make mistakes either because they lose focus (12 penalties) or try too hard to do something (too many turnovers). The Gipson int followed by his fumble was another big blow.
On paper, this team is better than last year at QB, WR, OL, DL, DB, and special teams. So let's not project the performance against the Jets across the entire season. I don't agree this team doesn't want to play for Pettine. The problem with 'heart' on Sunday was that it was ripped out when McCown went down, so it seemed like the team wasn't motivated for the whole game, but that first drive says otherwise.
I think you forget we're 7-0 up after one series of the JFF 2.0 era. We should be pumped that our backup can come in and hit a TD pass in his first series. But then, things happen to suck the momentum - missing a gimme TD to Hawkins, the INT-fumble, the INT, that's a swing of 18 points that killed the game. Because if those things don't happen, we're 14-0 up at the half...
Sure, hindsight, but still, it didn't just go to shit when McCown got injured. Slightly after.
I think you forget we're 7-0 up after one series of the JFF 2.0 era. We should be pumped that our backup can come in and hit a TD pass in his first series. But then, things happen to suck the momentum - missing a gimme TD to Hawkins, the INT-fumble, the INT, that's a swing of 18 points that killed the game. Because if those things don't happen, we're 14-0 up at the half...
Sure, hindsight, but still, it didn't just go to shit when McCown got injured. Slightly after.
I think losing the starting QB is a very big blow and it is all cumulative when it comes to team morale. Sure all the other things you mentioned contribute to sucking momentum, but IMO it starts with the uncertainty one feels when the backup QB goes in. And yeah, I was happy with the pass to Benjamin, too, but Manziel is still basically a rookie despite being in his second year, I expected him to do rookie things so I was just waiting for it to all fall apart. Sad to say that's what happened.
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my hand just hovered over the flush handle on the toilet....
glad i didn't let it hanker there too long.
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for real though do any of you see the Browns "buckling down" for the remainder of the season if they put a turd up against TN? If so, what of their previous history leads you to believe that?
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I guess i'm just used to a team over the years that shows zero pride once the season is officially in the tank. Which is usually early.
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We have to run and we have to stop the run. We did neither in Game 1.
That plus the fact that on paper we are in the easy part of our schedule, kinda increases the importance of the Titans' game...
Your "hovering hand" is understandable.
We have to run and we have to stop the run. We did neither in Game 1.
That plus the fact that on paper we are in the easy part of our schedule, kinda increases the importance of the Titans' game...
Your "hovering hand" is understandable.
I gave it a slap with a "down boy down". I'll be better by Sunday. Just been in a miffed like funk over seeing a carbon copy of last years defense.
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I think the team isn't very good but I do think both Tennessee and Oakland will be wins, unless Carr is healthy. The problem is I don't think they win any more than 3 of the last 13.
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Greetings from Nashville, or as we say lately, "Aloha, bitches!"
Yes it will be a pivotal game for both clubs. Cleveland has to get off the early season mat and see if the Johnny Football thing is truly going to work. He's certainly better than last year but the big question is will be be good enough. One interesting story will be the Titans defense. You guys play the Steelers twice a year but last season both games were early (weeks 1 and 6) and I don't think Manziel played in either game. So he's not seen Dick Lebeau schemes yet.
As for Mariota, his first week was better than anyone predicted. We're still trying not to get ahead of ourselves in the Music City. We were a 2-14 club last year. The defense is still likely a few pieces away from being solid. The o-line was rejiggered at the last minute during the pre-season. We still have receiver questions and our top tight end Delanie Walker will likely miss the game after banging his wrist (fortunately not broken).
Still we won on the road last week. Yes it was against another 2-14 team with high hopes but road wins are always tough to get, especially for middling teams. Sunday should be interesting.
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Thanks for the info, seven.
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Greetings from Nashville, or as we say lately, "Aloha, bitches!"
Yes it will be a pivotal game for both clubs. Cleveland has to get off the early season mat and see if the Johnny Football thing is truly going to work. He's certainly better than last year but the big question is will be be good enough. One interesting story will be the Titans defense. You guys play the Steelers twice a year but last season both games were early (weeks 1 and 6) and I don't think Manziel played in either game. So he's not seen Dick Lebeau schemes yet.
As for Mariota, his first week was better than anyone predicted. We're still trying not to get ahead of ourselves in the Music City. We were a 2-14 club last year. The defense is still likely a few pieces away from being solid. The o-line was rejiggered at the last minute during the pre-season. We still have receiver questions and our top tight end Delanie Walker will likely miss the game after banging his wrist (fortunately not broken).
Still we won on the road last week. Yes it was against another 2-14 team with high hopes but road wins are always tough to get, especially for middling teams. Sunday should be interesting.
Greetings from Nashville, or as we say lately, "Aloha, bitches!"
You guys play the Steelers twice a year but last season both games were early (weeks 1 and 6) and I don't think Manziel played in either game. So he's not seen Dick Lebeau schemes yet.
Great greeting... hopefully our lava-lava lad will get to hug your island boy...
Dick's D looked good Week 1. Even tho Johnny has not seen it up close, our O-line has and if we get the line calls right, then it can be exploited.
It would not shock me to see our respective QBs emerge as our leading rushers.
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