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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    I was super optimistic after the first 10 minutes of the game - everything looked *exactly* as we wanted it to. We forced a punt in (I think) 5 plays of D, then we took about 9 minutes to get all the way down the field, mixing up passing and throwing nicely, converting third downs as necessary, and we were in a position to put points on the board.

    After that, with McCown out, it went a bit to shit. Manziel got a nice TD, if slightly under thrown, which should have helped continue the momentum. But then, Just as we were about to get a turnover, or at least force a punt again, brandon marshall did his thing and for some reason it knocked everything out of us.

    After that, with the heads down, the Jets built a lead. Knowing we had to pass because we were trailing and had effectively no run game, they just kept sending pressure, and Manziel - in only his second start - began to panic a little and started leaving the pocket early. There was no coming back from that point.

    So the positives? That everything was going perfectly until it wasn't.

    The negatives

    1) No run game. That's basically the biggest thing for me. In the passing game we gained only around 200 yards, but I don't think we're really set up to get 400 yards per game. Slightly more would be nice - 250-300 maybe - but that doesn't bother me.

    2) Penalties - too many. By like, 10. When we weren't giving the ball away to kill the drive, we were killing it ourselves by putting ourselves in third and very long. And even then when Manziel scrambled for 20 to pick up the first down, it was pulled back for a hold on (I think) Mack.

    The turnovers aren't great, of course, you turn it over five times, you lose, simple. But of those five:

    Fumble by McCown - he shouldn't be making that dive, so sotp him making the dive, no fumble

    Strip on Gipson - Gipson is giving up about 5" and 200lbs on Brandon Marsall. He should have protected it better maybe, but don't forget the only reason he got stripped is because he picked Fitzpatrick in the first place.

    INT - not a good throw. This is the concerning one because Hartline was open for Manziel to lead him. Threw to the back shoulder and the DB made a play.

    Manziel Fumbles - both from leaving the pocket too early. Stay in the pocket, those fumbles clean themselves up.

    So yeah, some negatives, but still positives. Biggest worry is how quickly and easily the heads dropped when the momentum changed. That's on the vets and coaches to step up and rally.

    Jets lost Sheldon Richardson to suspension... you may have heard of him... 😉

    @gftchris said:

    Manziel got a nice TD, if slightly under thrown...

    But the big counterbalancing positives were that Benji was spotted early and the throw was to his outside, away from the single-high Safety. Benji was drifting towards the middle of the field... he should not have been.

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  • Pessimism comes from the sloppy play and again the team looked like they don't belong on the same field.

  • C calfoxwc

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    @calfoxwc said:

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    yuck. bologna is for inmates and welfare whites. there's some early hate for ya.

    the intent of this oddly random post is completely lost on me. was there some deeper meaning i'm missing cal?

  • i think if you put that on bread and then stick in your mouth you can't talk.

    which might be his point.

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  • dawg2fanD dawg2fan

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah but I thought they lost too many guys in the offseason but added a bunch of promising rooks. I knew defensively they weren't bums just didn't think they were gonna be much this year.

    It's way too early to start talking about how teams will finish the year. Lets get Bowe back and see how our O runs. We need a big receiver, even if he is beyond his years. The small receivers just dont scare anyone.

    @dawg2fan said:

    It's way too early to start talking about how teams will finish the year. Lets get Bowe back and see how our O runs. We need a big receiver, even if he is beyond his years. The small receivers just dont scare anyone.

    yep-drop Dray and bring back our reclamation project (TP). Can't play 4 TE's at the same time anyway unless in the superjumbo package. A tall, speedy receiver clears out the underneath for the short shits.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @dawg2fan said:

    It's way too early to start talking about how teams will finish the year. Lets get Bowe back and see how our O runs. We need a big receiver, even if he is beyond his years. The small receivers just dont scare anyone.

    yep-drop Dray and bring back our reclamation project (TP). Can't play 4 TE's at the same time anyway unless in the superjumbo package. A tall, speedy receiver clears out the underneath for the short shits.

    @texasag1969 said:

    yep-drop Dray and bring back our reclamation project (TP). Can't play 4 TE's at the same time anyway unless in the superjumbo package. A tall, speedy receiver clears out the underneath for the short shits.

    Bring back greg little then?

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i think if you put that on bread and then stick in your mouth you can't talk.

    which might be his point.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think if you put that on bread and then stick in your mouth you can't talk.

    which might be his point.

    well if so, that's VERY unFirst Amendment of him. and of you for your presumptuous assumption.

    and bologna is still atrocious, even if it is seared magnificently.

  • assume = ass u and me.

    gftChrisG sisky fringoS 2 Replies
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    assume = ass u and me.

    @miktoxic said:

    assume = ass u and me.

    seems appropriate at this time.

    sisky fringoS 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    assume = ass u and me.

    @miktoxic said:

    assume = ass u and me.

    wow mik, i knew you are into crack whores but i didn't realize you smoke cock as well! sexual harrassment jeebus! i'm just attempting to post on a Browns Board, not looking for a date!

    for the record you made the first assumption.

  • i made a joke. not an assumption.

    see you thursday night at the rawhide.

    sisky fringoS 1 Reply
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @miktoxic said:

    assume = ass u and me.

    seems appropriate at this time.

    @gftchris said:

    seems appropriate at this time.

    how appropo as well, my across-the-ponder fan Brother. wade in if you like, you are most certainly welcome to wax passive aggressive as well.

    gftChrisG 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i made a joke. not an assumption.

    see you thursday night at the rawhide.

    @miktoxic said:

    i made a joke. not an assumption.

    see you thursday night at the rawhide.

    where?? if that's a gay bar, again, i'm not into dudes.

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @miktoxic said:

    i made a joke. not an assumption.

    see you thursday night at the rawhide.

    where?? if that's a gay bar, again, i'm not into dudes.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    i'm not into dudes.

    so you're a dyke?

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @gftchris said:

    seems appropriate at this time.

    how appropo as well, my across-the-ponder fan Brother. wade in if you like, you are most certainly welcome to wax passive aggressive as well.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    how appropo as well, my across-the-ponder fan Brother. wade in if you like, you are most certainly welcome to wax passive aggressive as well.

    the rest of this thread is mostly just you two being asses with each other, so yeah, appropriate 😛

    sisky fringoS 1 Reply

  • what's a dyke?

    i now feel you should swap out the samurai jack avatar...maybe go back to the Brian martini. more fitting.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @sisky-fringo said:

    how appropo as well, my across-the-ponder fan Brother. wade in if you like, you are most certainly welcome to wax passive aggressive as well.

    the rest of this thread is mostly just you two being asses with each other, so yeah, appropriate 😛

    @gftchris said:

    the rest of this thread is mostly just you two being asses with each other, so yeah, appropriate 😛

    i admit i helped jack it and apologies to the OP, but it had a good day-long run. besides, the reg season has begun, time to put the fangs in.

    fwiw if you stay classy, so will i.

  • dike, dyke, you butch bitch.

    lol.

    too old for this BUT bored so.....

  • Because we know what it's like to be a bad team. We've been a bad team for a very,very long time...

    Indianapolis or one of the other teams that lost unexpectedly still has reason to believe their team will be good and competitive, we do not have any reason to believe that at this point.

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