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  • dawg2fanD dawg2fan

    @gftchris said:

    As a fan of the soccer team he bought, I can say with some authority he wasn't in europe watching soccer.

    Also, most would rather he hadn't bought the team.

    But was he at the Browns games? Yes, you can say he was at a few, but not very many. I don't think he really cared whether this team succeeded or not. Lets give Haslem a chance. After all, he is the first person that seems to care if we win or not.

    @dawg2fan said:

    But was he at the Browns games? Yes, you can say he was at a few, but not very many. I don't think he really cared whether this team succeeded or not. Lets give Haslem a chance. After all, he is the first person that seems to care if we win or not.

    He was at maybe 3/50 soccer games each year the last few years.

  • That collapse on Sunday Chris, wasn't the finest day for your sports teams !

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  • T TexasAg1969

    Yeah, Bortles is tearing 'em up in Jax (9 points). And how about that twatwater last night beating the hapless niners (3 points). And both of those "franchise QB's" have a year starting experience over the guy who kept getting first down plays called back after 3 weeks not playing at full speed.

    You guys give up way too soon. Stop drinking 1% milk.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, Bortles is tearing 'em up in Jax (9 points). And how about that twatwater last night beating the hapless niners (3 points). And both of those "franchise QB's" have a year starting experience over the guy who kept getting first down plays called back after 3 weeks not playing at full speed.

    You guys give up way too soon. Stop drinking 1% milk.

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter.

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  • Gilbert wasn't on anyone's radar. How the hell did Minnesota get Bridgewater and A. Barr? Oakland got Kalhil Mack And Carr etc

    We passed on so many wide receivers and it shows! It's always next year with this team.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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  • I'm positive we'll draft in the top 10 in 2016 and fairly positive we'll be disappointed in the pick by week 12.

  • I did not realize fantasy points are now the yardstick by which drafts will now be evaluated...

    Good to know.

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  • I think those were actual offensive points, Tour.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, Bortles is tearing 'em up in Jax (9 points). And how about that twatwater last night beating the hapless niners (3 points). And both of those "franchise QB's" have a year starting experience over the guy who kept getting first down plays called back after 3 weeks not playing at full speed.

    You guys give up way too soon. Stop drinking 1% milk.

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter.

    @texasag1969 said:

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    sisky fringoS hoortaH 2 Replies

  • I guess you missed some of those 15 yarders low on a string to keep them away from defenders and into the receivers. Of course the refs must have missed the fact that they had to have skipped in. And the TD pass was an accidental thing to the outside away from the safety. Otherwise it was a sure picked rainbow. You're letting your hate get in your eyes.

  • I guess you missed some of those 15 yarders low on a string to keep them away from defenders and into the receivers.

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    Or maybe Manziel with those low throws is playing to the strengths of his small receivers? Their ability to go low and dig them out of the ground? I wouldn't expect our small recievers to win too many jump balls with taller defenders.

    dawg2fanD 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, Bortles is tearing 'em up in Jax (9 points). And how about that twatwater last night beating the hapless niners (3 points). And both of those "franchise QB's" have a year starting experience over the guy who kept getting first down plays called back after 3 weeks not playing at full speed.

    You guys give up way too soon. Stop drinking 1% milk.

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter.

    @texasag1969 said:

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter.

    Carr didnt get any points. His backup was in the game when those 13 points wete scored.
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  • W wargograw

    I think those were actual offensive points, Tour.

    @wargograw said:

    I think those were actual offensive points, Tour.

    lol... I have fantasy on the brain... I blame you... and Chip Kelly...

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  • cdl15C cdl15

    @texasag1969 said:

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    @cdl15 said:

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    JF can absolutely make all the throws. i take it you didn't see the game. being honest, he actually did well.

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @cdl15 said:

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    JF can absolutely make all the throws. i take it you didn't see the game. being honest, he actually did well.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    JF can absolutely make all the throws. i take it you didn't see the game. being honest, he actually did well.

    Yes I watched it. what exactly does he bring to table that colt McCoy didn't??? Arm strength is a major concern to me sorry!

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • F Furious Styles

    @texasag1969 said:

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter.

    Carr didnt get any points. His backup was in the game when those 13 points wete scored.

    @furious-styles said:

    Carr didnt get any points. His backup was in the game when those 13 points wete scored.

    What? Another of those guys who has already played a year that we should have picked has failed to score a TD in the first game of his 2nd season?

    How in hell did JM get that TD in the first quarter and 10 points the first half? Impossible if we use the standards of the "shoulda takens" from 2014.

  • Manziel was much improved over last year and yes, I do realize that he was the worst QB in the history of football...for 6 quarters.

    The thing about it is that the "over-confident, cocky asshole" who shit his pants last year didn't cop out and start making excuses.

    He accepted the blame for his actions and made moves to correct it. He has dedicated himself to the game and while 3 turnovers is unacceptable are we expected to believe that its an aspect of the game he can't improve?

    I may have been vocal about not wanting Manziel, but we need to give him a chance. the Jets game was a mixed bag for Deputy Jonathan, but isn't that to be expected out of any 22 year old QB who hasn't even played a quarter of a season?

    Manziel showed me things Sunday that piqued my interest. He is truly devoted to being the best QB he can be and should be the guy going forward. Does he improve after some work with the #1s and real game experience? who knows, I'd like to find out for sure.

  • cdl15C cdl15

    @texasag1969 said:

    PS-add Carr to the franchise list with his 13 points this week in year 2 as the starter

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    @cdl15 said:

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    Not the case. When Manziel came out arm strength wasn't the issue. OK, he does not posses a Derek Anderson rocket launcher arm, but just how far did that trait get our former signal caller? Those problems were 1) With a bullet- character issues, 2) Excessive improvisation and undisciplined, 3) tended to throw jump balls to primary WR- and covered- Mike Evans. 4) threw lame passes off of back foot when forced to scramble, 5) Inaccurate throws when forced to run to his left. 6) Marginal height and body build

    Don't forget I was one of the top JF hatas pre draft, I have a long memory, and I almost puked when the Browns drafted him.

    PS if Johnny Football was 6' 4", and didn't have his (deserved) party reputation, he would have been the consensus #1.

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  • I am impressed with this board's willingness to give Johnny another shot. Some of the vitriol from the time I joined in February until about 6 weeks ago was just gross. Now I see a lot of level heads and even those of you who still don't like him are at least bringing solid discussion (for the most part).

  • L LondonBrown

    That collapse on Sunday Chris, wasn't the finest day for your sports teams !

    @londonbrown said:

    That collapse on Sunday Chris, wasn't the finest day for your sports teams !

    Sunday was not a good day for me. I booked out the living room at home from 4pm, and by 9pm it had all ended in tears.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @cdl15 said:

    Difference is, all those qbs can make all the throws needed to be successful. JF cannot. I'm really concerned seeing 15 yd passes with nothing on them. 25 yd rainbows are just embarrasing.

    Not the case. When Manziel came out arm strength wasn't the issue. OK, he does not posses a Derek Anderson rocket launcher arm, but just how far did that trait get our former signal caller? Those problems were 1) With a bullet- character issues, 2) Excessive improvisation and undisciplined, 3) tended to throw jump balls to primary WR- and covered- Mike Evans. 4) threw lame passes off of back foot when forced to scramble, 5) Inaccurate throws when forced to run to his left. 6) Marginal height and body build

    Don't forget I was one of the top JF hatas pre draft, I have a long memory, and I almost puked when the Browns drafted him.

    PS if Johnny Football was 6' 4", and didn't have his (deserved) party reputation, he would have been the consensus #1.

    @hoorta said:

    Not the case. When Manziel came out arm strength wasn't the issue. OK, he does not posses a Derek Anderson rocket launcher arm, but just how far did that trait get our former signal caller? Those problems were 1) With a bullet- character issues, 2) Excessive improvisation and undisciplined, 3) tended to throw jump balls to primary WR- and covered- Mike Evans. 4) threw lame passes off of back foot when forced to scramble, 5) Inaccurate throws when forced to run to his left. 6) Marginal height and body build

    Don't forget I was one of the top JF hatas pre draft, I have a long memory, and I almost puked when the Browns drafted him.

    PS if Johnny Football was 6' 4", and didn't have his (deserved) party reputation, he would have been the consensus #1.

    Thanks for saving me 15 minutes, hoorta, you're the man.

    Cdl15, can you watch some of the games then come back and talk? You're talking in the same way someone who has seen 5 Nfl games in their life talks when around real football fans. If you dont like Jonny, cool, but dont make me talk to that guy whos talking out of his ass when I come to a football board.

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