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  • TCPO, when did the evolution of your Mariota view happen and what exactly caused it? Great points on this thread.

  • Even IF that strategy is correct - and I don't think it is: Washington is fucked for 5 years because they did exactly what you promote -

    MARIOTA SUCKS.

    The unproven assertion within every post on this thread is that Mariota is some kind of Brady, Luck, or Wilson - and frankly he is not. Mariota wouldn't beat Manziel in a battle this offseason. He simply is not accurate.

    But keep ignoring reality because your agenda is "Fuck everything, throw the entire draft away to own a replacement-level QB!"

    That is RISKY. And the only way it's worthwhile is twofold: One, does the reward match the actual risk.. and two, is the % chance that the reward will pay off greater than 50%?

    Frankly, the chance that Mariota is a savior is 5% AT BEST.

    The risk is that the D departures mean the D sucks even more in 2015 than 2014, the QB depth chart includes 2 guys who would lose to Billy Volek, the OL still has to start Turnstile Schwartz, we still have no WR, and we have only blocking TE's.

    That's the future if the Browns employ your strategy. And the ONLY defense of that move is the unproven assertion that Mariota equals savior. You have ZERO PROOF that will actually materialize... just bizarre platitudes about "taking a shot."

    How many super bowls did Ricky Williams win the Saints? How did that Herschel Walker trade work out for Minnesota? How's RG3 doing?

    Show the number of times the Steelers have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Show the number of times the Ravens have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Why do you think the consistently great teams DO NOT do this?

    @unsympathetic said:

    Even IF that strategy is correct - and I don't think it is: Washington is fucked for 5 years because they did exactly what you promote -

    MARIOTA SUCKS.

    The unproven assertion within every post on this thread is that Mariota is some kind of Brady, Luck, or Wilson - and frankly he is not. Mariota wouldn't beat Manziel in a battle this offseason. He simply is not accurate.

    But keep ignoring reality because your agenda is "Fuck everything, throw the entire draft away to own a replacement-level QB!"

    That is RISKY. And the only way it's worthwhile is twofold: One, does the reward match the actual risk.. and two, is the % chance that the reward will pay off greater than 50%?

    Frankly, the chance that Mariota is a savior is 5% AT BEST.

    The risk is that the D departures mean the D sucks even more in 2015 than 2014, the QB depth chart includes 2 guys who would lose to Billy Volek, the OL still has to start Turnstile Schwartz, we still have no WR, and we have only blocking TE's.

    That's the future if the Browns employ your strategy. And the ONLY defense of that move is the unproven assertion that Mariota equals savior. You have ZERO PROOF that will actually materialize... just bizarre platitudes about "taking a shot."

    How many super bowls did Ricky Williams win the Saints? How did that Herschel Walker trade work out for Minnesota? How's RG3 doing?

    Show the number of times the Steelers have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Show the number of times the Ravens have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Why do you think the consistently great teams DO NOT do this?

    Ouch! Dude has thrown more TD passes in half a game than Manziel's career.

    Goes to show why we always get it wrong with the QB position.

  • I should post another pic of baloney. 😄

  • TCPO, when did the evolution of your Mariota view happen and what exactly caused it? Great points on this thread.

    @wargograw said:

    TCPO, when did the evolution of your Mariota view happen and what exactly caused it? Great points on this thread.

    When I actually started watching his film, rather than just letting ESPN dictate my opinion.

    He wasn't a home run prospect by any means, but he reminded me of Aaron Rodgers which, by proxy, means he also reminded me of Kyle Boller.

  • This thread is based on the assumption that the titans WOULD HAVE traded him.

    Until someone shows me proof that the Titans were actually open to trading the pick, this thread is entirely a waste of time.

  • This thread is based on the assumption that the titans WOULD HAVE traded him.

    Until someone shows me proof that the Titans were actually open to trading the pick, this thread is entirely a waste of time.

    @unsympathetic said:

    This thread is based on the assumption that the titans WOULD HAVE traded him.

    Until someone shows me proof that the Titans were actually open to trading the pick, this thread is entirely a waste of time.

    This thread is also 6 months old, so....

  • So the 3-way trades we dreamed up didn't happen either?

    I hate it when that happens...

  • So the 3-way trades we dreamed up didn't happen either?

    I hate it when that happens...

    @tour2ma said:

    So the 3-way trades we dreamed up didn't happen either?

    I hate it when that happens...

    I know, it's a real bummer. Damn NFL GM's, you're so boring.

  • This thread is based on the assumption that the titans WOULD HAVE traded him.

    Until someone shows me proof that the Titans were actually open to trading the pick, this thread is entirely a waste of time.

    @unsympathetic said:

    This thread is based on the assumption that the titans WOULD HAVE traded him.

    Until someone shows me proof that the Titans were actually open to trading the pick, this thread is entirely a waste of time.

    Go ahead and read this thread again. Goes to show someone like you shouldn't be trusted to evaluate QBs.

  • You silly necromancers reviving these old threads. Dude, just start a new "we should've traded for Mariotta" thread. If you're trying to prove some "l was right all along" bullshit, then just link the damn thing so you can show everyone you were right. All along.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Even IF that strategy is correct - and I don't think it is: Washington is fucked for 5 years because they did exactly what you promote -

    MARIOTA SUCKS.

    The unproven assertion within every post on this thread is that Mariota is some kind of Brady, Luck, or Wilson - and frankly he is not. Mariota wouldn't beat Manziel in a battle this offseason. He simply is not accurate.

    But keep ignoring reality because your agenda is "Fuck everything, throw the entire draft away to own a replacement-level QB!"

    That is RISKY. And the only way it's worthwhile is twofold: One, does the reward match the actual risk.. and two, is the % chance that the reward will pay off greater than 50%?

    Frankly, the chance that Mariota is a savior is 5% AT BEST.

    The risk is that the D departures mean the D sucks even more in 2015 than 2014, the QB depth chart includes 2 guys who would lose to Billy Volek, the OL still has to start Turnstile Schwartz, we still have no WR, and we have only blocking TE's.

    That's the future if the Browns employ your strategy. And the ONLY defense of that move is the unproven assertion that Mariota equals savior. You have ZERO PROOF that will actually materialize... just bizarre platitudes about "taking a shot."

    How many super bowls did Ricky Williams win the Saints? How did that Herschel Walker trade work out for Minnesota? How's RG3 doing?

    Show the number of times the Steelers have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Show the number of times the Ravens have mortgaged their future for one player.

    Why do you think the consistently great teams DO NOT do this?

    Ouch! Dude has thrown more TD passes in half a game than Manziel's career.

    Goes to show why we always get it wrong with the QB position.

    @masterdog said:

    Ouch! Dude has thrown more TD passes in half a game than Manziel's career.

    Goes to show why we always get it wrong with the QB position.

    Cleveland isn't Tampa Bay Dorothy.

    This alleged trade proposal you love in hindsight doesn't make up for you wanting us to trade everything for RG3. You're not the type that owns your baggage so we won't see you again until you're celebrating the next Cleveland loss. Yesterday must have been just as difficult for you as watching Colt McCoy outplay your football messiah in Washington last year.

  • @masterdog said:

    Ouch! Dude has thrown more TD passes in half a game than Manziel's career.

    Goes to show why we always get it wrong with the QB position.

    Cleveland isn't Tampa Bay Dorothy.

    This alleged trade proposal you love in hindsight doesn't make up for you wanting us to trade everything for RG3. You're not the type that owns your baggage so we won't see you again until you're celebrating the next Cleveland loss. Yesterday must have been just as difficult for you as watching Colt McCoy outplay your football messiah in Washington last year.

    @flugel said:

    This alleged trade proposal you love in hindsight doesn't make up for you wanting us to trade everything for RG3.

    Damn... that'll leave a mark...