Jonathan Paul Manziel
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McCown is not cleared.
If Mariota and Winston can start, then why not start Manziel? How can he ever improve or learn how to become a pocket passer sitting.
The college game has changed and so has the quarterbacks coming into the NFL. The coaches now have to adapt their game plans to ease these spread QBs into the offense. It will take some QBs longer to learn the playbook and to adjust.
But no one knows how Manziel will progress if he sits. It's time to throw him into the fray and live by it. The Browns should stop with the recycled backups that move from team to team and find out now if they have a true franchise QB
In other words devise a scheme around what he does best and bring him along week to week. You never know. And we will never know if all he does is come in when McCown gets hurt.
I would leave Manziel in there no matter what. He has to develop.
And hopefully his elbow is not a lingering problem or Austin Davis will be next man up.
God,I hope the defense shows up!
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Manziel vs Dick LeBeau/Ray Horton
Average defensive lineup trained by great coaches.
Time to grab the socket set, take off the training wheels, and push Manziel down the street.
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Manziel vs Dick LeBeau/Ray Horton
Average defensive lineup trained by great coaches.
Time to grab the socket set, take off the training wheels, and push Manziel down the street.
Manziel vs Dick LeBeau/Ray Horton
Average defensive lineup trained by great coaches.
Time to grab the socket set, take off the training wheels, and push Manziel down the street.
Yep-nothing to lose here. Everything to gain.
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good to know a guy has big hands. that can really help you out in life.
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Waiting to hear how all the good plays Manziel made today weren't really good plays. I'll be back later
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Damn backyard play that only JM and Bengi knew about sealed the deal. Love magic.
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Ok... one week later and I think my post is even more true now than it was last week.
Was JFF the next incarnation of Tom Brady? Of course not.. But he ran the offence efficiently and even had what I would call 2 or 3 flashes of absolute brilliance.. 2 of the 3 going to Benjamin.. Especially the last pass.. That was pure Johnny Football... 9 times out of 10, when you have a DB come with a free blitz like that, you either see a quick outlet pass a sack or a throw out of bounds... Johnny kept it alive by executing a Tarkington'esque move and 2 seconds later a TD.
It wasn't all peaches and cream.. He put the ball on the ground twice.. He got freaking lucky as shit I think early in the 3rd quarter when he tossed one up into double coverage and should have been picked....
But he ran an entire game and did way more good than bad... Honestly I don't think that Josh could have done much better.. So what do we gain by putting Josh In next week if he clears his concussion?
I think we run with Johnny the rest of the year and see what happens.... OLINE looked great again, and our Defense finally stepped up in the end instead of crumbling....
JFF didn't win this game.. Special teams a great defense and solid running won this game.. JFF did was he was supposed to fucking do... Follow the game plan and don't lose the game for us.
He did that and added a few flashes of that Johnny Football that the Texas A & M fans were talking about last year....
GO BROWNS!!
BoBPOUnd!
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Ok... one week later and I think my post is even more true now than it was last week.
Was JFF the next incarnation of Tom Brady? Of course not.. But he ran the offence efficiently and even had what I would call 2 or 3 flashes of absolute brilliance.. 2 of the 3 going to Benjamin.. Especially the last pass.. That was pure Johnny Football... 9 times out of 10, when you have a DB come with a free blitz like that, you either see a quick outlet pass a sack or a throw out of bounds... Johnny kept it alive by executing a Tarkington'esque move and 2 seconds later a TD.
It wasn't all peaches and cream.. He put the ball on the ground twice.. He got freaking lucky as shit I think early in the 3rd quarter when he tossed one up into double coverage and should have been picked....
But he ran an entire game and did way more good than bad... Honestly I don't think that Josh could have done much better.. So what do we gain by putting Josh In next week if he clears his concussion?
I think we run with Johnny the rest of the year and see what happens.... OLINE looked great again, and our Defense finally stepped up in the end instead of crumbling....
JFF didn't win this game.. Special teams a great defense and solid running won this game.. JFF did was he was supposed to fucking do... Follow the game plan and don't lose the game for us.
He did that and added a few flashes of that Johnny Football that the Texas A & M fans were talking about last year....
GO BROWNS!!
BoBPOUnd!
Ok... one week later and I think my post is even more true now than it was last week.
Was JFF the next incarnation of Tom Brady? Of course not.. But he ran the offence efficiently and even had what I would call 2 or 3 flashes of absolute brilliance.. 2 of the 3 going to Benjamin.. Especially the last pass.. That was pure Johnny Football... 9 times out of 10, when you have a DB come with a free blitz like that, you either see a quick outlet pass a sack or a throw out of bounds... Johnny kept it alive by executing a Tarkington'esque move and 2 seconds later a TD.
It wasn't all peaches and cream.. He put the ball on the ground twice.. He got freaking lucky as shit I think early in the 3rd quarter when he tossed one up into double coverage and should have been picked....
But he ran an entire game and did way more good than bad... Honestly I don't think that Josh could have done much better.. So what do we gain by putting Josh In next week if he clears his concussion?
I think we run with Johnny the rest of the year and see what happens.... OLINE looked great again, and our Defense finally stepped up in the end instead of crumbling....
JFF didn't win this game.. Special teams a great defense and solid running won this game.. JFF did was he was supposed to fucking do... Follow the game plan and don't lose the game for us.
He did that and added a few flashes of that Johnny Football that the Texas A & M fans were talking about last year....
GO BROWNS!!
BoBPOUnd!
I think that our coaches need to let Johnny have a bit more flexibility... The fourth and one dive into the middle was the perfect opportunity to run play action and let him bootleg for the first down and maybe more... Yes. He has to play under control. But Johnny has to have more permission to be Johnny.
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Waiting to hear how all the good plays Manziel made today weren't really good plays. I'll be back later
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Johnny didn't look as bad as last year, but he still looked bad.
He made a couple nice throws and some nice scrambles, but when you're holding on to the ball past 3 seconds you're just begging to get your linemen called for holding.
Another thing is, you can't blame the online when Johnny is carrying the ball one handed like a loaf of bread, that's just begging to get stripped. He's got to learn to protect the ball better, hell man one of those fumbles was from Johnny running into his own guy.
He's either not seeing the field or he just can't read the field. He looked like a rookie qb, like what he should have looked like last year.
Maybe at this rate he'll be ready to start when he's 30.
He's got a lot of work to do.
Johnny didn't look as bad as last year, but he still looked bad.
He made a couple nice throws and some nice scrambles, but when you're holding on to the ball past 3 seconds you're just begging to get your linemen called for holding.
Another thing is, you can't blame the online when Johnny is carrying the ball one handed like a loaf of bread, that's just begging to get stripped. He's got to learn to protect the ball better, hell man one of those fumbles was from Johnny running into his own guy.
He's either not seeing the field or he just can't read the field. He looked like a rookie qb, like what he should have looked like last year.
Maybe at this rate he'll be ready to start when he's 30.
He's got a lot of work to do.
This fucking pussy blamed holding on the quarterback.
Why do we let morons like this post here?
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I think you let Mccown play and let johnny keep learning from the bench. He is doing well but no reason to rush it. Let him develop and become a solid QB for us.
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Well, let's be truthful here... I really like what I saw with Johnny.. HE DID NOT WIN THIS GAME!!(not that you said he did BTW, but you know there are Fanboy's out there nearly ejaculating with joy at this win).
We executed on all part of our team. Special teams put 7 up.. Take that away and the game is a hell of a lot closer... Take away the interceptions and the short fields that Johnny got, and take another 7 off the board....
In all honesty, we should have had at least 2 more TD's given the exceptional starting field position we got... Let's tell it like it is, Johnny didn't lose the game... He played the system, he made the reads, he got lucky and his foul ups didn't cost us anything this week. The ball won't always bounce that way in the future..
That being said... HE WON... It wasn't a fluke win either.. He executed, just like the rest of the team did....
And let's be REALLY honest... What good is there in starting Josh? He was there to mentor Johnny and give him and our team a chance to ease into this season and not take steps backward.... Josh lost his shot when he acted like a 1st year rookie and dove head first into two LB's on the first possession of the first game of the year after having chewed up nearly the entire 1st quarter last week... He had no business even trying something like that... What kind of lesson is he teaching Johnny by doing shit like that...
Just sayin'
BobPound!
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Everyone on networks said it was gold hater.
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That 2nd TD pass to Benjamin was about as INSTRIDE as one could be.
Add to this the fact that he was running to his weak side, he had a LB barreling in on him.. He had to stop, plant and chuck the ball at least 40 yards and he caught Travis in stride.... Not a bad bit of football..... One can hope this is just a taste of what we have in store for us over the next 8 to 10 years if he becomes our next starter.. Remember he is only 22 years old. He is the same age as most starting rookies this year.
I am ready to believe in this team again and it starts by building an offense around a good QB.. He is the best thing we've had since coming back in 1999, with the sole exception being Tim Couch..... Time will tell....
I will go back to my Johnny Football Fanboy cave and re-commense to masturbating to JFF posters and watching the Texas A & M highlight reels.. LOL
BobPound!
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Well, let's be truthful here... I really like what I saw with Johnny.. HE DID NOT WIN THIS GAME!!(not that you said he did BTW, but you know there are Fanboy's out there nearly ejaculating with joy at this win).
We executed on all part of our team. Special teams put 7 up.. Take that away and the game is a hell of a lot closer... Take away the interceptions and the short fields that Johnny got, and take another 7 off the board....
In all honesty, we should have had at least 2 more TD's given the exceptional starting field position we got... Let's tell it like it is, Johnny didn't lose the game... He played the system, he made the reads, he got lucky and his foul ups didn't cost us anything this week. The ball won't always bounce that way in the future..
That being said... HE WON... It wasn't a fluke win either.. He executed, just like the rest of the team did....
And let's be REALLY honest... What good is there in starting Josh? He was there to mentor Johnny and give him and our team a chance to ease into this season and not take steps backward.... Josh lost his shot when he acted like a 1st year rookie and dove head first into two LB's on the first possession of the first game of the year after having chewed up nearly the entire 1st quarter last week... He had no business even trying something like that... What kind of lesson is he teaching Johnny by doing shit like that...
Just sayin'
BobPound!
Josh lost his shot when he acted like a 1st year rookie and dove head first into two LB's on the first possession of the first game of the year after having chewed up nearly the entire 1st quarter last week... He had no business even trying something like that... What kind of lesson is he teaching Johnny by doing shit like that...
Just sayin'
Don't even know where to begin with this............ I guess I'll just say that you and I want totally different things out of our players.
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