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  • @mudfly said:

    I would also point out that our DE's....Randy Starks and Jamie Meder are ranked #10 & 11, respectively.......and a LARGE part of that is because Danny is occupying the line, whilst they do their thing....

    Lets not get too caught up in tackle and sack counts when deciding who's playing well and who isnt.....

    Considering Meder's snap count that's impressive. On his sack, though, that was a really well designed play. Whoever was the OLB came in and effectively bull-rushed his guy in to Meder's, Meder went around the outside and the OL couldn't keep up.

    Des 'hands to the fucking face almost cost us the game' Bryant on that list? Hughes?

    @gftchris said:

    Considering Meder's snap count that's impressive. On his sack, though, that was a really well designed play. Whoever was the OLB came in and effectively bull-rushed his guy in to Meder's, Meder went around the outside and the OL couldn't keep up.

    Des 'hands to the fucking face almost cost us the game' Bryant on that list? Hughes?

    yep....Bryant is way down the list, but still has a fairly average score of -1.3....and hughes is even at 0....so far so good....

  • Another reason I am not totally sold in DC O'Neill. Sorry....but Mingo needs to be cut loose to put pressure on the passer. I don't know if he can or cannot do that.

    Let Mingo be Mingo.

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  • Based on Mingo's great track/sack record as a pass rusher? I think Mingo's career will trendsetting, as a new type of LB whose main function is covering the new type of hybrid, ex basketballing TEs like Cameron, almost full time.

  • We could make him the tallest safety ever.....

    or maybe he can play TE.....we need another one of those.....😉

  • Another TE...we just need one!!!

  • Based on Mingo's great track/sack record as a pass rusher? I think Mingo's career will trendsetting, as a new type of LB whose main function is covering the new type of hybrid, ex basketballing TEs like Cameron, almost full time.

    @gftchris said:

    Based on Mingo's great track/sack record as a pass rusher? I think Mingo's career will trendsetting, as a new type of LB whose main function is covering the new type of hybrid, ex basketballing TEs like Cameron, almost full time.

    Of course Mingo has no record as a pass rusher...he has never been allowed to do that role on a consistent basis. He has certainly flashed on occasion.

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

  • @gftchris said:

    Based on Mingo's great track/sack record as a pass rusher? I think Mingo's career will trendsetting, as a new type of LB whose main function is covering the new type of hybrid, ex basketballing TEs like Cameron, almost full time.

    Of course Mingo has no record as a pass rusher...he has never been allowed to do that role on a consistent basis. He has certainly flashed on occasion.

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    @the-gipper said:

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    But he's the cover guy.....

    Orchard was brought in to rush....along with Kruger.....and thats about the only thing Kruger CAN do well.....

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

  • @the-gipper said:

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    But he's the cover guy.....

    Orchard was brought in to rush....along with Kruger.....and thats about the only thing Kruger CAN do well.....

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    @mudfly said:

    But he's the cover guy.....

    Orchard was brought in to rush....along with Kruger.....and thats about the only thing Kruger CAN do well.....

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    OK, not the greatest of roster management.

  • We could make him the tallest safety ever.....

    or maybe he can play TE.....we need another one of those.....😉

    @mudfly said:

    or maybe he can play TE..... 😉

    I know you were joking, but...

    @mudfly said:

    But he's the cover guy.....

    Orchard was brought in to rush....along with Kruger.....and thats about the only thing Kruger CAN do well.....

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    Whichever ILB between Robertson and Kirksey is not on the field?

    Cuts into their rest, but both are decent in coverage.

  • @gftchris said:

    Based on Mingo's great track/sack record as a pass rusher? I think Mingo's career will trendsetting, as a new type of LB whose main function is covering the new type of hybrid, ex basketballing TEs like Cameron, almost full time.

    Of course Mingo has no record as a pass rusher...he has never been allowed to do that role on a consistent basis. He has certainly flashed on occasion.

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    @the-gipper said:

    Of course Mingo has no record as a pass rusher...he has never been allowed to do that role on a consistent basis. He has certainly flashed on occasion.

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    I'd like to see them try rushing Mingo up the middle instead of rushing him outside a few times. Reason being is if Shelton occupies a center and guard, and the ends and/or OLB occupy the tackles, it leaves Mingo one-on-one on a blocking running back and I like his chances a lot better again an RB than an LT. Plus with his height, he can get those paws up and really mess with the passing lanes.

  • Certainly can loop Mingo inside and see what happens...

  • @the-gipper said:

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    But he's the cover guy.....

    Orchard was brought in to rush....along with Kruger.....and thats about the only thing Kruger CAN do well.....

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    @mudfly said:

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    So can you explain to me what they've been doing with Kruger so far in terms of playing him like a weak side cover OLB'er.

  • @mudfly said:

    So, when we turn Mingo into a rush specialist, who do we use to cover???...cause it aint Kruger or Orchard or Solomon....

    So can you explain to me what they've been doing with Kruger so far in terms of playing him like a weak side cover OLB'er.

    @clevfan4life said:

    So can you explain to me what they've been doing with Kruger so far in terms of playing him like a weak side cover OLB'er.

    I dont see that....though I would say that every once in a while, they are gonna get caught with their pants down and he'll be forced to cover....

    Last year he played 550 passing downs and rushed the QB 485 times against only 65 in coverage...

    This year, so far, he's rushed the QB 52 times out of his 70 pass plays.....

    Dansby Mingo and Kirksey are covering the highest percentage of time...while Kruger(and AB) just rush...

    Conversely, Dansby has only rushed the QB 7 times.....while covering 66 passes......and Mingo has covered 50% of his plays....

  • @the-gipper said:

    Of course Mingo has no record as a pass rusher...he has never been allowed to do that role on a consistent basis. He has certainly flashed on occasion.

    That is why he was brought in at #6 overall.....to rush the passer. Let him do that....and if he really cannot, kick him to the curb. but hell, give him a chance first.

    I'd like to see them try rushing Mingo up the middle instead of rushing him outside a few times. Reason being is if Shelton occupies a center and guard, and the ends and/or OLB occupy the tackles, it leaves Mingo one-on-one on a blocking running back and I like his chances a lot better again an RB than an LT. Plus with his height, he can get those paws up and really mess with the passing lanes.

    @osiris said:

    I'd like to see them try rushing Mingo up the middle instead of rushing him outside a few times. Reason being is if Shelton occupies a center and guard, and the ends and/or OLB occupy the tackles, it leaves Mingo one-on-one on a blocking running back and I like his chances a lot better again an RB than an LT. Plus with his height, he can get those paws up and really mess with the passing lanes.

    Interesting....I would like to see it as an experiment. I can only assume that the DC doesn't think that Mingo can match the inside muscle and thus won't try that.

    I mean....hell, Mingo is in the same position as Johnny get your gun......we gotta see if he can do what he was brought here to do......chop wood.

  • I would also point out that our DE's....Randy Starks and Jamie Meder are ranked #10 & 11, respectively.......and a LARGE part of that is because Danny is occupying the line, whilst they do their thing....

    Lets not get too caught up in tackle and sack counts when deciding who's playing well and who isnt.....

    @mudfly said:

    I would also point out that our DE's....Randy Starks and Jamie Meder are ranked #10 & 11, respectively.......and a LARGE part of that is because Danny is occupying the line, whilst they do their thing....

    Lets not get too caught up in tackle and sack counts when deciding who's playing well and who isnt.....

    Ya!