Ohio State/Michigan State 1 and 2 in latest AP ranking
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The way they played, I wouldn't have voted for them. Who knows how they decided.
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The way they played, I wouldn't have voted for them. Who knows how they decided.
The way they played, I wouldn't have voted for them. Who knows how they decided.
I'm not sure who else would be there though. MSU and Ole Miss were the others getting #1 votes - Ole Miss just knocked off Alabama in Alabama - more impressive than anything OSU have done. MSU beat Oregon, for what that's worth in a post-Mariota world. OSU...haven't played a ranked team?
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Hmmm... I would have voted for OleMiss based on resume.
OSU is a very good team that starts slow and has some QB issues to work out. They don't have the resume, but could still be the best team.
Either way, MSU vs OSU will take care of it.
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Also how are OSU still number one? Is the assumption that Barrett is taking over at QB?
Rankings are a combination of expectations and performance. While Ohio State did not have its best game, most still believe they are the most talented team in the nation. As long as they do not lose....see Alabama/USC, they will maintain their position, though some other teams with perceived good performances may make up ground.
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Hmmm... I would have voted for OleMiss based on resume.
OSU is a very good team that starts slow and has some QB issues to work out. They don't have the resume, but could still be the best team.
Either way, MSU vs OSU will take care of it.
Hmmm... I would have voted for OleMiss based on resume.
No....Ole Miss played no one prior to Alabama.
Hell, on resume....maybe Northwestern should be highly ranked. Or MSU for sure.
OSU is a very good team that starts slow and has some QB issues to work out. They don't have the resume, but could still be the best team.
I don't know....NIU may be better than most other teams all of these guys have played. They are considered the best of their conference...and played OSU tight.
NIU would probably beat most P5 teams.
Either way, MSU vs OSU will take care of it.
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I think you're inflating your win over NIU.
You also said Ole Miss hasn't beating anyone else impressive but Alabama. Key being "Alabama" here. At night. In Tuscaloosa. That's a very impressive win.
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I think you're inflating your win over NIU.
You also said Ole Miss hasn't beating anyone else impressive but Alabama. Key being "Alabama" here. At night. In Tuscaloosa. That's a very impressive win.
I think you're inflating your win over NIU.
You also said Ole Miss hasn't beating anyone else impressive but Alabama. Key being "Alabama" here. At night. In Tuscaloosa. That's a very impressive win.
NIU could probably beat Michigan......in fact, didn't they do just that not long ago? You are underinflating how good of a team that might actually be.
And sure, yes, beating Alabama is big...but they beat them last year as well. And seriously....are you defending Ole Miss's non-con schedule. I mean...yea....it looks great on their resume to have beaten FCS (if that) Tennessee Martin.
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I am a life long Buckeye. But right now Michigan State is better. Much better. Just being truthful.
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I think you're inflating your win over NIU.
You also said Ole Miss hasn't beating anyone else impressive but Alabama. Key being "Alabama" here. At night. In Tuscaloosa. That's a very impressive win.
NIU could probably beat Michigan......in fact, didn't they do just that not long ago? You are underinflating how good of a team that might actually be.
And sure, yes, beating Alabama is big...but they beat them last year as well. And seriously....are you defending Ole Miss's non-con schedule. I mean...yea....it looks great on their resume to have beaten FCS (if that) Tennessee Martin.
NIU could probably beat Michigan......in fact, didn't they do just that not long ago? You are underinflating how good of a team that might actually be.
And sure, yes, beating Alabama is big...but they beat them last year as well. And seriously....are you defending Ole Miss's non-con schedule. I mean...yea....it looks great on their resume to have beaten FCS (if that) Tennessee Martin.
Wait, Ole Miss beating Alabama should count less because they've done it twice in a row? What kind of backwards logic is that? Unless you're saying Alabama are a schedule fluffer these days?
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NIU could probably beat Michigan......in fact, didn't they do just that not long ago? You are underinflating how good of a team that might actually be.
And sure, yes, beating Alabama is big...but they beat them last year as well. And seriously....are you defending Ole Miss's non-con schedule. I mean...yea....it looks great on their resume to have beaten FCS (if that) Tennessee Martin.
Wait, Ole Miss beating Alabama should count less because they've done it twice in a row? What kind of backwards logic is that? Unless you're saying Alabama are a schedule fluffer these days?
Wait, Ole Miss beating Alabama should count less because they've done it twice in a row? What kind of backwards logic is that? Unless you're saying Alabama are a schedule fluffer these days?
Woody is talking about "resumes". By that I believe it should mean: who has played the toughest schedule in college football to this point and come out ahead.
Yes, Alabama is a good win.....and all I am saying is that Bama may not in fact be quite the powerhouse they were just 2-3 years back. The proof is in the pudding: Bama usually did to Ole Miss what they did to the UL Monroes of this world. So, yes, Bama I think has retrenched a bit....while Ole Miss certainly has come up.......but I give Ole Miss NO credit for taking on the Tennessee Martins.
And I am saying that NIU could beat half the teams in the SEC.....sure the lower half (Vandy/KY/etc. ..and certainly Arkansas)
They have been that good the last several years.
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NIU could probably beat Michigan......in fact, didn't they do just that not long ago? You are underinflating how good of a team that might actually be.
And sure, yes, beating Alabama is big...but they beat them last year as well. And seriously....are you defending Ole Miss's non-con schedule. I mean...yea....it looks great on their resume to have beaten FCS (if that) Tennessee Martin.
Wait, Ole Miss beating Alabama should count less because they've done it twice in a row? What kind of backwards logic is that? Unless you're saying Alabama are a schedule fluffer these days?
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That's Gipper College Football Logic
Yes, it is, it is called Accuracy.
So? Are you saying that Alabama is just as good as they always have been for like the last 5 years? Nearly every college analyst disagrees with you then.
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I think they are, Gip. If you want a bold prediction from me here, Bama runs the table from here on out. 14-1. SEC champs, national champs. I hope we beat them but don't see it happening. When you give up 5 turnovers, 2 of them completely unforced, and give up 2 complete fluke plays and are still within striking distance at the end of the game against an elite team, you're a couple corrections away from being the best team in the country. Remember, Bama has not lost more than one regular season games in the last 4 seasons. Rumors of their demise are exaggerated IMO. It's been two years.
That said, there are rumors of a rift between Kiffin and Saban and that could derail things insofar as their defense would allow any sort of derailment.
Of course, they could lose to Georgia in two weeks and make me look like a fool.
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I think they are, Gip. If you want a bold prediction from me here, Bama runs the table from here on out. 14-1. SEC champs, national champs. I hope we beat them but don't see it happening. When you give up 5 turnovers, 2 of them completely unforced, and give up 2 complete fluke plays and are still within striking distance at the end of the game against an elite team, you're a couple corrections away from being the best team in the country. Remember, Bama has not lost more than one regular season games in the last 4 seasons. Rumors of their demise are exaggerated IMO. It's been two years.
That said, there are rumors of a rift between Kiffin and Saban and that could derail things insofar as their defense would allow any sort of derailment.
Of course, they could lose to Georgia in two weeks and make me look like a fool.
I think they are, Gip. If you want a bold prediction from me here, Bama runs the table from here on out. 14-1. SEC champs, national champs. I hope we beat them but don't see it happening. When you give up 5 turnovers, 2 of them completely unforced, and give up 2 complete fluke plays and are still within striking distance at the end of the game against an elite team, you're a couple corrections away from being the best team in the country. Remember, Bama has not lost more than one regular season games in the last 4 seasons. Rumors of their demise are exaggerated IMO. It's been two years.
That said, there are rumors of a rift between Kiffin and Saban and that could derail things insofar as their defense would allow any sort of derailment.
Of course, they could lose to Georgia in two weeks and make me look like a fool.
Here is why it is possible that you are right: because the SEC overall seems weaker.
But honestly....it is not Georgia that should worry you but LSU. I think it probable that they are the best team in the SEC and one of the best in the country.
The LSU/Ole Miss game could be the game of the year in that conference.
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LSU's QB has thrown for like 140 yards through two games. I will be interested if a good defense can sell out to stop Fournette, make Harris throw, and beat them. Also, they lost who is easily a top 5 DC in the offseason (gee, wonder where he went....) and replaced him with a complete scrub who was not even coordinating last season. Not to dismiss them as I definitely think they're a contender. Just think they lose 2.
This weekend we'll see if A&M is in a group with those top 3 or not. The line is scary-low for an opponent that just had two terrible losses.
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LSU's QB has thrown for like 140 yards through two games. I will be interested if a good defense can sell out to stop Fournette, make Harris throw, and beat them. Also, they lost who is easily a top 5 DC in the offseason (gee, wonder where he went....) and replaced him with a complete scrub who was not even coordinating last season. Not to dismiss them as I definitely think they're a contender. Just think they lose 2.
This weekend we'll see if A&M is in a group with those top 3 or not. The line is scary-low for an opponent that just had two terrible losses.
LSU's QB has thrown for like 140 yards through two games. I will be interested if a good defense can sell out to stop Fournette, make Harris throw, and beat them. Also, they lost who is easily a top 5 DC in the offseason (gee, wonder where he went....) and replaced him with a complete scrub who was not even coordinating last season. Not to dismiss them as I definitely think they're a contender. Just think they lose 2.
This weekend we'll see if A&M is in a group with those top 3 or not. The line is scary-low for an opponent that just had two terrible losses.
Who does LSU play this weekend? Let me guess, does it rhyme with Florida A&M?
And no, I don't know where they DC went to. Let me guess: does it rhyme with Oklahoma A&M?
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They play @ Syracuse and I am particularly looking forward to watching them go up to NY and curbstomp some Yankees. Not sure why. Also, next week I believe I'll be in Death Valley for their game against Eastern Michigan for my birthday.
We play Arkansas, not LSU, since LSU did not just have two losses, terrible or otherwise.
Yes, we stole LSU's DC in the offseason, and it was (and still is) glorious.
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They play @ Syracuse and I am particularly looking forward to watching them go up to NY and curbstomp some Yankees. Not sure why. Also, next week I believe I'll be in Death Valley for their game against Eastern Michigan for my birthday.
We play Arkansas, not LSU, since LSU did not just have two losses, terrible or otherwise.
Yes, we stole LSU's DC in the offseason, and it was (and still is) glorious.
They play @ Syracuse and I am particularly looking forward to watching them go up to NY and curbstomp some Yankees. Not sure why.
That is kind of a stupid sentiment because: A. they are not your team so why the fuck should you care who wins and B. The rest of the world considers you a "Yankee"....so it is a self defeating premise.
Also, next week I believe I'll be in Death Valley for their game against Eastern Michigan for my birthday.
They also call Clemson Death Valley...don't they?
We play Arkansas, not LSU, since LSU did not just have two losses, terrible or otherwise.
Yes, Ark. sucks......if your school does not beat them.....then it is shameful......shame, shame, shame!!!
Yes, we stole LSU's DC in the offseason, and it was (and still is) glorious.
How glorious it is remains to be seen until you play them....doesn't it?
Why would the guy make at best a lateral move? Money?
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