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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @clevfan4life said:

    Does armonty have all 4 of those sacks? I don't remember krugs getting one.

    No....PFF doesnt do 1/2 sacks(and thats where Im pulling #'s from).......though they do "reassign" sacks.....

    so they have AB with 45 rushes for 3 sacks, 1 hit and 1 hurry

    ........and Kruger with 52 rushes for 1 sack, 2 hits and 5 hurrys

    Plus, AB has more overall stops and tackles, yet has played 40 fewer snaps.....

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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    @mudfly said:

    Plus, AB has more overall stops and tackles, yet has played 40 fewer snaps.....

    Oh no shit? not surprised though now that I think about it. Just kind of jarring I would imagine to see it on paper that our high priced starter is getting beat out by a guy that was the backup 5 tech last year. So AB rushes the passer better and is more useful in the run game. Why is Kruger starting again?

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      @clevfan4life said:

      Bottom line is the Browns have to figure out a way to basically start Armonty. Like I said previously he's kind of wasted as a 5 tech 3-4 DE...can still do it but I want to see him against a tackles outside shoulder all day. Well not all day cause I want a good rotation in there but you guys get what i'm saying. I'm open to discussion on who the other edge should be, but I think there's no question that Armonty is our best pass outside pass rusher.

      Looks like the Browns agree with you.....he has played 45 passing downs and rushed the QB 45 times......thats 100%.....

      Its him and Kruger pretty much as designated rushers.....they have combined to rush the passer 97 times in 2 games....

      Those 97 rushes have produced 4 sacks, 3 hits and 6 hurries.....so getting to QB 14 times out of 97 attempts

      While 13 other players(6 linebackers, 3 safeties, 4 CBs) have all combined to rush the passer only 44 times......

      Those 44 rushes produced 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 hurries.....getting to QB 6 times out of 44.....(about the same)....

      Just some interesting numbers for those interested how we are using these guys....

      And, no doubt, so far AB has been the best outside rusher....

      Gotta say....not LB's, but Randy Starks and D Bryant seem to be creating good pressure too(lots of hurries and hits)

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      Kruger was officially credited with a half sack vs. TN...

      @mudfly said:

      Its (A.Bryant) and Kruger pretty much as designated rushers.....they have combined to rush the passer 97 times in 2 games. Those 97 rushes have produced 4 sacks, 3 hits and 6 hurries.....so getting to QB 14 times out of 97 attempts

      While 13 other players(6 linebackers, 3 safeties, 4 CBs) have all combined to rush the passer only 44 times. Those 44 rushes produced 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 hurries.....getting to QB 6 times out of 44.....(about the same)....

      Couple of impressions/ questions I want to check...

      1. The ratio of sacks to hits to hurries seem off. Seems like most teams, teams with strong pass rushes, they climb on the order of 1:2:4... Yes?

      2. We've faced a total of 61 passes. So we are blitzing over 2/3rds of the time??? Or are the stats counting two blitzers on a single play as two blitzes??? Or are they counting our 4th lineman, Kruger, as a blitzer?

      3. The effectiveness of our blitzes seems pretty weak at 6 of 44. And again the ratio seems off...

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        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Film Breakdown: Armonty Bryant’s 2.5 sacks vs. Tennessee

        Posted 1 hour ago

        Kevin Jones Staff Writer @Mr_KevinJones Facebook

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        The former DE is making the transition to LB look easy

        To have success in the NFL, you have to be able to evolve. The best players on defense can adapt themselves at a moment’s notice like a chameleon.

        Armonty Bryanticon-article-link.gif, 25, has done that to begin the 2015 season.

        In training camp, Cleveland converted its former defensive lineman into a budding outside linebacker and the smooth transition has been evident. The slender 6-foot-4,265-pounder rewarded the shrewd coaching staff by punching in 2.5 sacks against the Titans and bringing constant pressure throughout the afternoon.

        Why is the switch working so effectively for the Browns?

        At East Central Oklahoma, Bryant rushed the quarterback from the two-point stance. He’s reached back into his memory bank with ease. Bryant has been taking advantage of his wiry frame to get lower than offensive linemen, dip his shoulder and get around the edge quickly.

        Let’s dive into one of sacks to show No. 95’s growth.

        Situation: Titans ball, second quarter, first-and-10, at the Tennessee 39-yard line, Browns leading 14-0

        armonty1_576.jpg

        Bryant has been in the backfield on multiple plays early in the game but has yet to make a big play. Even so, Tennessee shades two tight ends, Anthony Fasano and Chase Coffman, to the right side in hopes of slowing Bryant down.

        armonty2_576.jpg

        Bryant is fully expecting to get double-teamed by the tight ends – or at the very least chipped on his way to the quarterback. Side note: How many rookies are already commanding double-teams like Danny Sheltonicon-article-link.gif (green circle).

        armonty3_576.jpg

        Inexplicably, neither tight end touches Bryant.

        “I saw the tackle and the tight end talking before the snap and I think they miscommunicated,” Bryant said. “It was loud.”

        Now in his third NFL season, Bryant is athletic and tall enough to pass for an NBA small forward. He’s salivating at a one-on-one matchup with Titans rookie right tackle Jeremiah Poutasi. But before charging at quarterback Marcus Mariota, Bryant has a trick up his sleeve.

        armonty4_576.jpg

        Shuffling his feet two steps backward, Bryant leans his shoulder in, making Poutasi think he’s actually dropping in coverage. Bryant calls the advanced pass rushing technique Coffee House.

        “It’s like taking a little coffee break,” Bryant said. “You fake like your dropping and then, boom.”

        Poutasi blocks down on Jamie Medericon-article-link.gif, giving Bryant an HOV lane to go hunting in the backfield.

        armonty5_576.jpg

        This is Poutasi’s “oh shucks” moment. It’s too late.

        Bryant gobbles up Mariota and breaks down the relentless wall at a key point early in the game.

        “We just kept fighting, kept pushing, and it paid out,” Bryant said.

        As Mike Pettine always says, the big first down sack put Tennessee behind the sticks on second and third down. Christian Kirkseyicon-article-link.gif blew up the next screen pass for a loss and Mariota hit Dexter McCluster on a check-down pass well short of the first down.

        The difference on defense from Week 1 to Week 2 was the pass rush. Without it, the secondary gets left hung out to dry. With it, and with Bryant progressing at this rate, the Browns are a fortified front that can bewilder offenses.

        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          Good read...

          "The slender 6-foot-4,265-pounder... now in his third NFL season, Bryant is athletic and tall enough to pass for an NBA small forward."

          I wonder how good his hands are...

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            Film Breakdown: Armonty Bryant’s 2.5 sacks vs. Tennessee

            Posted 1 hour ago

            Kevin Jones Staff Writer @Mr_KevinJones Facebook

            • a
            • a
            The former DE is making the transition to LB look easy

            To have success in the NFL, you have to be able to evolve. The best players on defense can adapt themselves at a moment’s notice like a chameleon.

            Armonty Bryanticon-article-link.gif, 25, has done that to begin the 2015 season.

            In training camp, Cleveland converted its former defensive lineman into a budding outside linebacker and the smooth transition has been evident. The slender 6-foot-4,265-pounder rewarded the shrewd coaching staff by punching in 2.5 sacks against the Titans and bringing constant pressure throughout the afternoon.

            Why is the switch working so effectively for the Browns?

            At East Central Oklahoma, Bryant rushed the quarterback from the two-point stance. He’s reached back into his memory bank with ease. Bryant has been taking advantage of his wiry frame to get lower than offensive linemen, dip his shoulder and get around the edge quickly.

            Let’s dive into one of sacks to show No. 95’s growth.

            Situation: Titans ball, second quarter, first-and-10, at the Tennessee 39-yard line, Browns leading 14-0

            armonty1_576.jpg

            Bryant has been in the backfield on multiple plays early in the game but has yet to make a big play. Even so, Tennessee shades two tight ends, Anthony Fasano and Chase Coffman, to the right side in hopes of slowing Bryant down.

            armonty2_576.jpg

            Bryant is fully expecting to get double-teamed by the tight ends – or at the very least chipped on his way to the quarterback. Side note: How many rookies are already commanding double-teams like Danny Sheltonicon-article-link.gif (green circle).

            armonty3_576.jpg

            Inexplicably, neither tight end touches Bryant.

            “I saw the tackle and the tight end talking before the snap and I think they miscommunicated,” Bryant said. “It was loud.”

            Now in his third NFL season, Bryant is athletic and tall enough to pass for an NBA small forward. He’s salivating at a one-on-one matchup with Titans rookie right tackle Jeremiah Poutasi. But before charging at quarterback Marcus Mariota, Bryant has a trick up his sleeve.

            armonty4_576.jpg

            Shuffling his feet two steps backward, Bryant leans his shoulder in, making Poutasi think he’s actually dropping in coverage. Bryant calls the advanced pass rushing technique Coffee House.

            “It’s like taking a little coffee break,” Bryant said. “You fake like your dropping and then, boom.”

            Poutasi blocks down on Jamie Medericon-article-link.gif, giving Bryant an HOV lane to go hunting in the backfield.

            armonty5_576.jpg

            This is Poutasi’s “oh shucks” moment. It’s too late.

            Bryant gobbles up Mariota and breaks down the relentless wall at a key point early in the game.

            “We just kept fighting, kept pushing, and it paid out,” Bryant said.

            As Mike Pettine always says, the big first down sack put Tennessee behind the sticks on second and third down. Christian Kirkseyicon-article-link.gif blew up the next screen pass for a loss and Mariota hit Dexter McCluster on a check-down pass well short of the first down.

            The difference on defense from Week 1 to Week 2 was the pass rush. Without it, the secondary gets left hung out to dry. With it, and with Bryant progressing at this rate, the Browns are a fortified front that can bewilder offenses.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @htownbrown said:

            Film Breakdown: Armonty Bryant’s 2.5 sacks vs. Tennessee

            Posted 1 hour ago

            Kevin Jones Staff Writer @Mr_KevinJones Facebook

            • a
            • a
            The former DE is making the transition to LB look easy

            To have success in the NFL, you have to be able to evolve. The best players on defense can adapt themselves at a moment’s notice like a chameleon.

            Armonty Bryanticon-article-link.gif, 25, has done that to begin the 2015 season.

            In training camp, Cleveland converted its former defensive lineman into a budding outside linebacker and the smooth transition has been evident. The slender 6-foot-4,265-pounder rewarded the shrewd coaching staff by punching in 2.5 sacks against the Titans and bringing constant pressure throughout the afternoon.

            Why is the switch working so effectively for the Browns?

            At East Central Oklahoma, Bryant rushed the quarterback from the two-point stance. He’s reached back into his memory bank with ease. Bryant has been taking advantage of his wiry frame to get lower than offensive linemen, dip his shoulder and get around the edge quickly.

            Let’s dive into one of sacks to show No. 95’s growth.

            Situation: Titans ball, second quarter, first-and-10, at the Tennessee 39-yard line, Browns leading 14-0

            armonty1_576.jpg

            Bryant has been in the backfield on multiple plays early in the game but has yet to make a big play. Even so, Tennessee shades two tight ends, Anthony Fasano and Chase Coffman, to the right side in hopes of slowing Bryant down.

            armonty2_576.jpg

            Bryant is fully expecting to get double-teamed by the tight ends – or at the very least chipped on his way to the quarterback. Side note: How many rookies are already commanding double-teams like Danny Sheltonicon-article-link.gif (green circle).

            armonty3_576.jpg

            Inexplicably, neither tight end touches Bryant.

            “I saw the tackle and the tight end talking before the snap and I think they miscommunicated,” Bryant said. “It was loud.”

            Now in his third NFL season, Bryant is athletic and tall enough to pass for an NBA small forward. He’s salivating at a one-on-one matchup with Titans rookie right tackle Jeremiah Poutasi. But before charging at quarterback Marcus Mariota, Bryant has a trick up his sleeve.

            armonty4_576.jpg

            Shuffling his feet two steps backward, Bryant leans his shoulder in, making Poutasi think he’s actually dropping in coverage. Bryant calls the advanced pass rushing technique Coffee House.

            “It’s like taking a little coffee break,” Bryant said. “You fake like your dropping and then, boom.”

            Poutasi blocks down on Jamie Medericon-article-link.gif, giving Bryant an HOV lane to go hunting in the backfield.

            armonty5_576.jpg

            This is Poutasi’s “oh shucks” moment. It’s too late.

            Bryant gobbles up Mariota and breaks down the relentless wall at a key point early in the game.

            “We just kept fighting, kept pushing, and it paid out,” Bryant said.

            As Mike Pettine always says, the big first down sack put Tennessee behind the sticks on second and third down. Christian Kirkseyicon-article-link.gif blew up the next screen pass for a loss and Mariota hit Dexter McCluster on a check-down pass well short of the first down.

            The difference on defense from Week 1 to Week 2 was the pass rush. Without it, the secondary gets left hung out to dry. With it, and with Bryant progressing at this rate, the Browns are a fortified front that can bewilder offenses.

            Damn it! You didn't give us the payoff photo......of him putting the Marriott to sleep!

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              Gip.... go find a rake...

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                That was such good shit, i'm so fucking hard right now. lmao. Seriously, I wish someone would do a breakdown like that on Krugers technique and show how high and unleveraged he is going around the corner....vs how Armonty goes around the corner. Love how that break down said "he gets lower than opposing lineman"......well yeah, that's what pass rushers were "supposed" to learn by the time they left Pee wee. High school at the latest. More of this shit please.

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                  That was such good shit, i'm so fucking hard right now. lmao. Seriously, I wish someone would do a breakdown like that on Krugers technique and show how high and unleveraged he is going around the corner....vs how Armonty goes around the corner. Love how that break down said "he gets lower than opposing lineman"......well yeah, that's what pass rushers were "supposed" to learn by the time they left Pee wee. High school at the latest. More of this shit please.

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                  OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  That was such good shit, i'm so fucking hard right now. lmao. Seriously, I wish someone would do a breakdown like that on Krugers technique and show how high and unleveraged he is going around the corner....vs how Armonty goes around the corner. Love how that break down said "he gets lower than opposing lineman"......well yeah, that's what pass rushers were "supposed" to learn by the time they left Pee wee. High school at the latest. More of this shit please.

                  No kidding. It drives me nuts seeing the horrible tackling technique in the NFL by some players when I was taught in high school how to tackle properly. It's because players don't practice tackling because everyone is so afraid of injuring their own players in practice. If our guys practiced tackling more, our run defense would get better. They ought to increase the practice squad size limit so teams can practice tackling against the practice squad.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    Anyone else confused why the film breakdown of Bryant's sack was basically just 'the OL had a miscommunication, Bryant took advantage' - I mean, he had 1.5 other sacks, surely one was a better demonstration of technique/scheme?

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                      Gip.... go find a rake...

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Gip.... go find a rake...

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